Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls?

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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#261 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:51 pm

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I've seen countless no calls on last second plays over the years, and a ton about 5 times as blatant as the one on Lebron last night. They are rarely ever called and have to be flagrant like. Only a small percentage of no time on the clock calls ever get made.

The worst part is Lebron should have been T'd up for his post game antics. Techs have been called all year on players for a fraction of that type of reaction. And the fact the refs addressed the call post game was even more ridiculous. When was the last time the refs addressed a no call on any other star player, or non all star? :lol: These two incidents are next level favoritism toward Lebron.


Pool reporters regularly speak to crew chiefs after games about particular calls. For example, here’s an additional pool report from last night on Valanciunas’ ejection. A few nights before that we got a pool report about Curry’s ejection. And so on. It happens all the time.

https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on-jonas-valanciunas-ejection/


Doubtful it's even discussed if Lebron didn't flip out and hop around like a baby frog on the court afterward. It's nowhere near as big a no call as it's made out to be. You can't compare it to ejections, which are major plays. A touch on the forearm call gets missed several times a game in most games. This was only an issue because it was Lebron. The Lakers flipped out a few weeks ago on a no call foul to end a game, where the refs had to assure them it wasn't and the contact was "high five" like after the ball was released. The Lakers are just looking for blame because of how bad they're playing this season. :lol:


Again, pool reporters speak to crew chiefs all the time after games, about a variety of things. Just scroll through the NBA's officiating account on Twitter: Eight or nine times this month alone, on a variety of issues -- missed calls, technical fouls, ejections, flagrant fouls, challenges, the allocation of timeouts, etc etc etc. It's not unique and has been happening for years.

https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#262 » by VanWest82 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:54 pm

Lebron isn’t disrespected. There is no conspiracy. That non-call was bad but I also think you need need more than a love tap to get a whistle on the last play of the game.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#263 » by Green89 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:56 pm

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Pool reporters regularly speak to crew chiefs after games about particular calls. For example, here’s an additional pool report from last night on Valanciunas’ ejection. A few nights before that we got a pool report about Curry’s ejection. And so on. It happens all the time.

https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on-jonas-valanciunas-ejection/


Doubtful it's even discussed if Lebron didn't flip out and hop around like a baby frog on the court afterward. It's nowhere near as big a no call as it's made out to be. You can't compare it to ejections, which are major plays. A touch on the forearm call gets missed several times a game in most games. This was only an issue because it was Lebron. The Lakers flipped out a few weeks ago on a no call foul to end a game, where the refs had to assure them it wasn't and the contact was "high five" like after the ball was released. The Lakers are just looking for blame because of how bad they're playing this season. :lol:


Again, pool reporters speak to crew chiefs all the time after games, about a variety of things. Just scroll through the NBA's officiating account on Twitter: Eight or nine times this month alone, on a variety of issues -- missed calls, technical fouls, ejections, flagrant fouls, challenges, the allocation of timeouts, etc etc etc. It's not unique and has been happening for years.

https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial


I get that, but can you honestly say that if this were the same exact play on Malcolm Brogdon at the 4 minute mark of the 3rd quarter that they would have been talking about it afterward?
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#264 » by Dubnation » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:57 pm

Flash Falcon X wrote:You guys are late, refs have been letting Boston get away with a lot this season. When GSW played @ Boston there was a similar no-call like LeBron’s where Poole went in for a layup in OT and got absolutely smashed on his forearm yet the refs didn’t blow a whistle and considered it a “block.” Not to mention other BS calls like calling Klay for his 6th foul in OT after he got a clean block/swipe on a Jaylen Green drive. Lol.

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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#265 » by Green89 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 4:58 pm

VanWest82 wrote:Lebron isn’t disrespected. There is no conspiracy. That non-call was bad but I also think you need need more than a love tap to get a whistle on the last play of the game.


Exactly. Consistently through the years, the end of games has always been reffed like that. Also, those type of forearm scrapes are missed or no calls throughout the middle of most games anyway.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#266 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:04 pm

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Doubtful it's even discussed if Lebron didn't flip out and hop around like a baby frog on the court afterward. It's nowhere near as big a no call as it's made out to be. You can't compare it to ejections, which are major plays. A touch on the forearm call gets missed several times a game in most games. This was only an issue because it was Lebron. The Lakers flipped out a few weeks ago on a no call foul to end a game, where the refs had to assure them it wasn't and the contact was "high five" like after the ball was released. The Lakers are just looking for blame because of how bad they're playing this season. :lol:


Again, pool reporters speak to crew chiefs all the time after games, about a variety of things. Just scroll through the NBA's officiating account on Twitter: Eight or nine times this month alone, on a variety of issues -- missed calls, technical fouls, ejections, flagrant fouls, challenges, the allocation of timeouts, etc etc etc. It's not unique and has been happening for years.

https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial


I get that, but can you honestly say that if this were the same exact play on Malcolm Brogdon at the 4 minute mark of the 3rd quarter that they would have been talking about it afterward?


In the third quarter? Obviously not, regardless of what player is involved. But a blatantly missed call that everyone can see on replay at the end of the game like that? It doesn't matter who takes that shot, that's going to be discussed. For example, from just this month alone, here's a pool report on noted NBA superstar Bobby Portis not getting a call at the end of regulation, and he wasn't even shooting.

https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on-the-milwaukee-turnover-with-13-9-seconds-left-in-the-fourth-quarter-of-tonights-milwaukee-at-toronto-game/
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#267 » by Green89 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:09 pm

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Again, pool reporters speak to crew chiefs all the time after games, about a variety of things. Just scroll through the NBA's officiating account on Twitter: Eight or nine times this month alone, on a variety of issues -- missed calls, technical fouls, ejections, flagrant fouls, challenges, the allocation of timeouts, etc etc etc. It's not unique and has been happening for years.

https://twitter.com/NBAOfficial


I get that, but can you honestly say that if this were the same exact play on Malcolm Brogdon at the 4 minute mark of the 3rd quarter that they would have been talking about it afterward?


In the third quarter? Obviously not, regardless of what player is involved. But a blatantly missed call that everyone can see on replay at the end of the game like that? It doesn't matter who takes that shot, that's going to be discussed. For example, from just this month alone, here's a pool report on noted NBA superstar Bobby Portis not getting a call at the end of regulation, and he wasn't even shooting.

https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on-the-milwaukee-turnover-with-13-9-seconds-left-in-the-fourth-quarter-of-tonights-milwaukee-at-toronto-game/


I did a google search and found 1 Clutchsports article on that matter. Searching last nights incident there's no less than 9 Top Stories about Lebron's no call on all the major sports outlets, and dozens of articles on both the major and lesser sports sites.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#268 » by Green89 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:13 pm

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Flash Falcon X wrote:You guys are late, refs have been letting Boston get away with a lot this season. When GSW played @ Boston there was a similar no-call like LeBron’s where Poole went in for a layup in OT and got absolutely smashed on his forearm yet the refs didn’t blow a whistle and considered it a “block.” Not to mention other BS calls like calling Klay for his 6th foul in OT after he got a clean block/swipe on a Jaylen Green drive. Lol.

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Tatum has not been the recipient of star foul calls his whole career. Some think it's how much he argues and raises his arms up at refs at no calls.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#269 » by PierceFan4ever » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:14 pm

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CzBoobie wrote:Lol, Tatum is shooting almost 9 FTs per game, last time LeBron shot more than that was 13 years ago during his first Cavs stint. Yet one gets favorable whistle for 2 decades and one is not getting calls. That is some alternate reality stuff.




This is a regular occurrence and it costed Boston this game. Tatum's free throws are massively up this year because he is seeking contact but he gets hammered in the paint several times every game and gets crap calls and has gotten some of the softest techs in the league. Every player is the victim of bad calls but LeBron complaining is hilarious as he has absolutely gotten a friendly whistle his whole career. Arguing otherwise is goofy.


One of the filthiest dunks in recent memory and was also a CLEAR foul.

I'm trying to imagine Tatum rolling around on the ground on his hands and knees like a child though. Lol


Tatum would’ve gotten ejected if he pulled what Lebron did
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#270 » by Sedale Threatt » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:15 pm

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I get that, but can you honestly say that if this were the same exact play on Malcolm Brogdon at the 4 minute mark of the 3rd quarter that they would have been talking about it afterward?


In the third quarter? Obviously not, regardless of what player is involved. But a blatantly missed call that everyone can see on replay at the end of the game like that? It doesn't matter who takes that shot, that's going to be discussed. For example, from just this month alone, here's a pool report on noted NBA superstar Bobby Portis not getting a call at the end of regulation, and he wasn't even shooting.

https://official.nba.com/pool-report-on-the-milwaukee-turnover-with-13-9-seconds-left-in-the-fourth-quarter-of-tonights-milwaukee-at-toronto-game/


I did a google search and found 1 Clutchsports article on that matter. Searching last nights incident there's no less than 9 Top Stories about Lebron's no call on all the major sports outlets, and dozens of articles on both the major and lesser sports sites.


So what? We're not talking about the media at large. We're talking about this...

And the fact the refs addressed the call post game was even more ridiculous.


... which has in fact been happening for years and years.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#271 » by Ein Sof » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:32 pm

LeBron honestly reminds me of Jesus Christ. No joke. Hated by the entire world yet keeps doing his thing. And all who accept his light reach entire new heights, not only financially, but physically, emotionally, spiritually.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#272 » by Lunartic » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:33 pm

Celtics get away with quite a bit on defense. That Nets v Celtics series last year was completely one-sided, KD was being held and hacked all game and C fans couldn't stop gushing over how elite their defense was.

Almost as bad as that Denver v Lakers bubble series, when the refs let them hack Jokic to death.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#273 » by OriginalRed » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:33 pm

Ein Sof wrote:LeBron honestly reminds me of Jesus Christ. No joke. Hated by the entire world yet keeps doing his thing. And all who accept his light reach entire new heights, not only financially, but physically, emotionally, spiritually.

Ya'll see what goes through Lebron stans minds? :crazy:
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Post#274 » by SNPA » Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:48 pm

Kings fans call getting screwed by the refs on a obvious call with the game on the line…a random Tuesday.

James got screwed, learn to deal. Throw a fit like a baby he is so used to it going his way.
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Post#275 » by Ni Da Ye » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:02 pm

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Post#276 » by Flash Falcon X » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:28 pm

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LOL refs be something else at Boston games. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#277 » by Flash Falcon X » Sun Jan 29, 2023 6:30 pm

So now we’re defending referees missing obvious calls at the end of games? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#278 » by parapooper » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:02 pm

SNPA wrote:Kings fans call getting screwed by the refs on a obvious call with the game on the line…a random Tuesday.

Can zou name a few random Tuesdays when a GOAT candidate on the Kings got screwed out of a win by a ridiculously wrong call against him in closing time for the second time in a few weeks in which his team also got screwed out of additional wins by other wrong calls as admitted afterward by the NBA?

SNPA wrote:James got screwed, learn to deal. Throw a fit like a baby he is so used to it going his way.


Used to going his way?
He is a star player who takes a clearly above average number of shots as the rim and is one of the few players who are more efficient at the rim than from the FT line (so it makes more sense to foul him than almost any other player).
So logically you would assume if you look at the list of 253 qualifying players for FT rate on BBref he should be in the top20. Considering his status as an increasingly injury prone GOAT lister with the 2nd most minutes played of all time who the NBA might want to protect and opinions like yours insinuating he gets extreme preferential treatment by the refs one would think he is in the top3 in FT rate.
Where is he actually? - 109th - barely above average
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Post#279 » by SNPA » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:16 pm

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SNPA wrote:Kings fans call getting screwed by the refs on a obvious call with the game on the line…a random Tuesday.

Can zou name a few random Tuesdays when a GOAT candidate on the Kings got screwed out of a win by a ridiculously wrong call against him in closing time for the second time in a few weeks in which his team also got screwed out of additional wins by other wrong calls as admitted afterward by the NBA?

SNPA wrote:James got screwed, learn to deal. Throw a fit like a baby he is so used to it going his way.


Used to going his way?
He is a star player who takes a clearly above average number of shots as the rim and is one of the few players who are more efficient at the rim than from the FT line (so it makes more sense to foul him than almost any other player).
So logically you would assume if you look at the list of 253 qualifying players for FT rate on BBref he should be in the top20. Considering his status as an increasingly injury prone GOAT lister with the 2nd most minutes played of all time who the NBA might want to protect and opinions like yours insinuating he gets extreme preferential treatment by the refs one would think he is in the top3 in FT rate.
Where is he actually? - 109th - barely above average

The first part misses the point. This happens to others but it’s never blown up into a huge deal because they don’t have a top ten all time player. It’s just a random Tuesday in Sac. In fact, when this happens Lakers fans are loud amongst the chorus tell others to stop whining and they should have played better and not been in that position at the end of games.

The second part is a different subject. I consider a noticeable part of James’ shoulder dip and ram your way through a defender to the rim moves to be offensive fouls that aren’t called or are called on the defender.
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Re: Is LeBron the most disrespected star in getting calls? 

Post#280 » by MavsDirk41 » Sun Jan 29, 2023 7:17 pm

Ein Sof wrote:LeBron honestly reminds me of Jesus Christ. No joke. Hated by the entire world yet keeps doing his thing. And all who accept his light reach entire new heights, not only financially, but physically, emotionally, spiritually.



What in the world are you talking about???

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