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I never saw the '94 Rockets or some of the earlier teams on this list.
Of the ones I watched, I'll take Duncan's 2003 over Dirk's 2011. No one else on that Spurs team was playing at an all star level, you had ancient David Robinson, 20 year old Tony Parker, and Manu before he was Manu. Yet the Spurs knocked out the Shaq-Kobe Lakers and the Nowitzki–Nash–Finley Mavericks in back-to-back rounds.
Dallas beating Miami is one of my all-time favorite basketball memories, but Duncan simply did more with less. Dirk had Marion, Terry and Chandler, any of whom would have been the second best player on the 03 Spurs.
Of the ones I watched, I'll take Duncan's 2003 over Dirk's 2011. No one else on that Spurs team was playing at an all star level, you had ancient David Robinson, 20 year old Tony Parker, and Manu before he was Manu. Yet the Spurs knocked out the Shaq-Kobe Lakers and the Nowitzki–Nash–Finley Mavericks in back-to-back rounds.
Dallas beating Miami is one of my all-time favorite basketball memories, but Duncan simply did more with less. Dirk had Marion, Terry and Chandler, any of whom would have been the second best player on the 03 Spurs.
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Swish1906 wrote:Dirk. LeBron never had to carry his teams through more than half of the All NBA team selection without having even an allstar himself as help
2007 LeBron?
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Iwasawitness wrote:TheWitcher wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:Dirk leading this poll truly is baffling to me.
It shouldn’t be, LeChoke created one of the best basketball moments.
If it has more to do with the opposing teams best player than it does the guy who won the championship, then said player shouldn't be leading this poll. Fact is Tyson Chandler had almost as much to do with Dallas winning as Dirk did. By no means should Dirk be even receiving consideration. But it goes back to my point that 90% of the people on this site never actually watched the 2011 Finals.MavsDirk41 wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:Dirk leading this poll truly is baffling to me.
Jordan in 98 not even being an option was baffling to me until i saw who created this thread and i understood then
Jordan in 98 doesn't deserve consideration either if we're being honest.
The 2011 Mavs had depth, veteran leadership, and the perfect balance of offense/defense. They were almost the perfect team. Dirk was the catalyst and they fed off of him. Chandler was the defensive anchor, Kidd the teams QB, Marion the perfect compliment to Dirk, and Terry the sparkplug. But Dirk was the go to guy and he delivered. It was awesome to watch him become so focused and determined. My favorite finals ever.
Jordan in 98 deserves consideration come on man. Pippen missed half the season and that was Pippens worse finals performance out of the 6. He barely played in game 6 because his back. He was never the same player after sustaining that injury. Rodman didnt even start for the Bulls. He was basically washed after that season and was a distraction to the team. Kukoc was solid but Jordan carried the team that year, especially without Pippen.
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TheWitcher wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:TheWitcher wrote:
It shouldn’t be, LeChoke created one of the best basketball moments.
If it has more to do with the opposing teams best player than it does the guy who won the championship, then said player shouldn't be leading this poll. Fact is Tyson Chandler had almost as much to do with Dallas winning as Dirk did. By no means should Dirk be even receiving consideration. But it goes back to my point that 90% of the people on this site never actually watched the 2011 Finals.MavsDirk41 wrote:
Jordan in 98 not even being an option was baffling to me until i saw who created this thread and i understood then
Jordan in 98 doesn't deserve consideration either if we're being honest.
Dirk was amazing, and will continue to lead the poll, despite your hurt feelings or idolatry.
And so was Tyson. Without him the Mavs don't even make the finals, let alone win that series.
Also, idolatry? If you're going to try to sound smart, at least use it in cases where it actually applies. In reality, LeBron shouldn't be the runner up either. To me, it's someone who was able to display utter dominance on both ends of the floor. Duncan or Hakeem are the correct answers here, not Dirk or LeBron.
MavsDirk41 wrote:Jordan in 98 deserves consideration come on man. Pippen missed half the season and that was Pippens worse finals performance out of the 6. He barely played in game 6 because his back. He was never the same player after sustaining that injury. Rodman didnt even start for the Bulls. He was basically washed after that season and was a distraction to the team. Kukoc was solid but Jordan carried the team that year, especially without Pippen.
That's great and all but you're ignoring a few key factors here.
1. Pippen still did everything else despite having a poor offensive series. We can't continue to ignore the fact that he was still the one running the show and dictating the offense. These things matter. And when you consider the fact that Jordan had not one but two people averaging 15+ per game, I don't really care that Pippen's offensive numbers weren't up to his usual standards.
2. I really, REALLY hate when people mention the fact that Dennis Rodman wasn't even starting. This implies that his involvement in the series was minimal. It couldn't be further from the truth. Fun fact: Dennis Rodman averaged 30 MPG in that finals series. He was still the one tasked with defending Malone late game. He was still their leading rebounder and one of their best defensive players despite not starting. Mentioning that he didn't start is irrelevant. He still practically played starting minutes.
3. Why do we mention Pippen having a poor offensive series but not Jordan? Yeah he averaged 33 PPG but he did it in incredibly poor shooting percentages. People like to mention LeBron's shooting percentages in the 2015 Finals and attempt to use that against him, but for some reason they don't do the same with Jordan. Yeah I get it, one persons team won and the others didn't. Fine, that's valid. I totally get that. But at the end of the day, Jordan's own offensive contributions aren't what won them that series. It sure as **** didn't give them the big game 4 win where they won by 40 with his *checks notes* 24 points. In the end, I'm pretty sure the key reasons here to the Bulls winning were that they were still an elite defensive team who could limit the Jazz. If the contributions of one player can't be chalked up as the main reason for a team winning (and in this case it's not), then you can't sit here and say it's a carry job.
This goes back to what I'm talking about with 2011 and why Dirk, while deserving consideration, shouldn't be winning this poll. Yeah we talk about the teammates and what they once were or in Dirks case aren't anymore, but we still don't bother looking at the contributions of said teammates AND/OR what Dirk (or in this case Michael) actually contributed themselves.
Was Jordan their best player? Sure. Do Bulls win without him? No. But I've seen much better carry jobs by even Jordan himself. This doesn't deserve consideration.
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MavsDirk41 wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:TheWitcher wrote:
It shouldn’t be, LeChoke created one of the best basketball moments.
If it has more to do with the opposing teams best player than it does the guy who won the championship, then said player shouldn't be leading this poll. Fact is Tyson Chandler had almost as much to do with Dallas winning as Dirk did. By no means should Dirk be even receiving consideration. But it goes back to my point that 90% of the people on this site never actually watched the 2011 Finals.MavsDirk41 wrote:
Jordan in 98 not even being an option was baffling to me until i saw who created this thread and i understood then
Jordan in 98 doesn't deserve consideration either if we're being honest.
The 2011 Mavs had depth, veteran leadership, and the perfect balance of offense/defense. They were almost the perfect team. Dirk was the catalyst and they fed off of him. Chandler was the defensive anchor, Kidd the teams QB, Marion the perfect compliment to Dirk, and Terry the sparkplug. But Dirk was the go to guy and he delivered. It was awesome to watch him become so focused and determined. My favorite finals ever.
Jordan in 98 deserves consideration come on man. Pippen missed half the season and that was Pippens worse finals performance out of the 6. He barely played in game 6 because his back. He was never the same player after sustaining that injury. Rodman didnt even start for the Bulls. He was basically washed after that season and was a distraction to the team. Kukoc was solid but Jordan carried the team that year, especially without Pippen.
You might want to re-watch that series. Before his injury and after game 4 there were talks of him deserving of the FMVP. Sam Smith wrote an article on that exact subject saying Scottie deserved it but it's behind a pay wall of the Chicago tribune.
Here's another article suggesting the same thing.
https://www.deseret.com/1998/6/11/19385041/what-about-pippen-for-nba-finals-mvp/
Obviously this was written before his injury but there wouldn't have been multiple articles written in his favor of FMVP if was indeed his worst Finals performance of the 6 like you claimed.
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Blazers had a mini dynasty late 80s early 90s
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Iwasawitness wrote:TheWitcher wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:
If it has more to do with the opposing teams best player than it does the guy who won the championship, then said player shouldn't be leading this poll. Fact is Tyson Chandler had almost as much to do with Dallas winning as Dirk did. By no means should Dirk be even receiving consideration. But it goes back to my point that 90% of the people on this site never actually watched the 2011 Finals.
Jordan in 98 doesn't deserve consideration either if we're being honest.
Dirk was amazing, and will continue to lead the poll, despite your hurt feelings or idolatry.
And so was Tyson. Without him the Mavs don't even make the finals, let alone win that series.
Also, idolatry? If you're going to try to sound smart, at least use it in cases where it actually applies. In reality, LeBron shouldn't be the runner up either. To me, it's someone who was able to display utter dominance on both ends of the floor. Duncan or Hakeem are the correct answers here, not Dirk or LeBron.MavsDirk41 wrote:Jordan in 98 deserves consideration come on man. Pippen missed half the season and that was Pippens worse finals performance out of the 6. He barely played in game 6 because his back. He was never the same player after sustaining that injury. Rodman didnt even start for the Bulls. He was basically washed after that season and was a distraction to the team. Kukoc was solid but Jordan carried the team that year, especially without Pippen.
That's great and all but you're ignoring a few key factors here.
1. Pippen still did everything else despite having a poor offensive series. We can't continue to ignore the fact that he was still the one running the show and dictating the offense. These things matter. And when you consider the fact that Jordan had not one but two people averaging 15+ per game, I don't really care that Pippen's offensive numbers weren't up to his usual standards.
2. I really, REALLY hate when people mention the fact that Dennis Rodman wasn't even starting. This implies that his involvement in the series was minimal. It couldn't be further from the truth. Fun fact: Dennis Rodman averaged 30 MPG in that finals series. He was still the one tasked with defending Malone late game. He was still their leading rebounder and one of their best defensive players despite not starting. Mentioning that he didn't start is irrelevant. He still practically played starting minutes.
3. Why do we mention Pippen having a poor offensive series but not Jordan? Yeah he averaged 33 PPG but he did it in incredibly poor shooting percentages. People like to mention LeBron's shooting percentages in the 2015 Finals and attempt to use that against him, but for some reason they don't do the same with Jordan. Yeah I get it, one persons team won and the others didn't. Fine, that's valid. I totally get that. But at the end of the day, Jordan's own offensive contributions aren't what won them that series. It sure as **** didn't give them the big game 4 win where they won by 40 with his *checks notes* 24 points. In the end, I'm pretty sure the key reasons here to the Bulls winning were that they were still an elite defensive team who could limit the Jazz. If the contributions of one player can't be chalked up as the main reason for a team winning (and in this case it's not), then you can't sit here and say it's a carry job.
This goes back to what I'm talking about with 2011 and why Dirk, while deserving consideration, shouldn't be winning this poll. Yeah we talk about the teammates and what they once were or in Dirks case aren't anymore, but we still don't bother looking at the contributions of said teammates AND/OR what Dirk (or in this case Michael) actually contributed themselves.
Was Jordan their best player? Sure. Do Bulls win without him? No. But I've seen much better carry jobs by even Jordan himself. This doesn't deserve consideration.
Rodman averaged around 30 minutes a game but he was in foul trouble in 3 of the games and had under double digit rebounds in all 3 of those games. Game 3 was the blowout game by the Bulls not game 4 and Rodman was great in game 4. It was his best game of the series. He was the teams leading rebounder (8 boards a game) and they needed him obviously (im not questioning his importance to the team). But you could tell his career was about over and he was 38 years old. I dont think he impacted the game like he did the previous runs the Bulls had.
Well when Jordan carried the Bulls during half of the season that Pippen missed with injury and he created the turnover by stealing the ball from Malone and hitting the clincher over Russell in game 6 i think ill give him a break on his low shooting percentage lol.
I wouldnt pick 98 Jordan in this poll. I just said he should be considered. Its Dirk, Iverson 01, or Duncan 03 imo. Dirk was the engine for that squad in 11 and his performance was amazing in leading that team.
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The4thHorseman wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:
If it has more to do with the opposing teams best player than it does the guy who won the championship, then said player shouldn't be leading this poll. Fact is Tyson Chandler had almost as much to do with Dallas winning as Dirk did. By no means should Dirk be even receiving consideration. But it goes back to my point that 90% of the people on this site never actually watched the 2011 Finals.
Jordan in 98 doesn't deserve consideration either if we're being honest.
The 2011 Mavs had depth, veteran leadership, and the perfect balance of offense/defense. They were almost the perfect team. Dirk was the catalyst and they fed off of him. Chandler was the defensive anchor, Kidd the teams QB, Marion the perfect compliment to Dirk, and Terry the sparkplug. But Dirk was the go to guy and he delivered. It was awesome to watch him become so focused and determined. My favorite finals ever.
Jordan in 98 deserves consideration come on man. Pippen missed half the season and that was Pippens worse finals performance out of the 6. He barely played in game 6 because his back. He was never the same player after sustaining that injury. Rodman didnt even start for the Bulls. He was basically washed after that season and was a distraction to the team. Kukoc was solid but Jordan carried the team that year, especially without Pippen.
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You might want to re-watch that series. Before his injury and after game 4 there were talks of him deserving of the FMVP. Sam Smith wrote an article on that exact subject saying Scottie deserved it but it's behind a pay wall of the Chicago tribune.
Here's another article suggesting the same thing.
https://www.deseret.com/1998/6/11/19385041/what-about-pippen-for-nba-finals-mvp/
Obviously this was written before his injury but there wouldn't have been multiple articles written in his favor of FMVP if was indeed his worst Finals performance of the 6 like you claimed.
Go check out his performance in games 1 and 5 pal. He was great in game 4 and the Bulls curbed stomped Utah in game 3. Compared to the other 5 finals this was his worst performance (age/injuries a factor of course). But ill wait for your reply to dispute my claim…..
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Honorable mention, kawhi against the sixers 2019
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MavsDirk41 wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:TheWitcher wrote:
Dirk was amazing, and will continue to lead the poll, despite your hurt feelings or idolatry.
And so was Tyson. Without him the Mavs don't even make the finals, let alone win that series.
Also, idolatry? If you're going to try to sound smart, at least use it in cases where it actually applies. In reality, LeBron shouldn't be the runner up either. To me, it's someone who was able to display utter dominance on both ends of the floor. Duncan or Hakeem are the correct answers here, not Dirk or LeBron.MavsDirk41 wrote:Jordan in 98 deserves consideration come on man. Pippen missed half the season and that was Pippens worse finals performance out of the 6. He barely played in game 6 because his back. He was never the same player after sustaining that injury. Rodman didnt even start for the Bulls. He was basically washed after that season and was a distraction to the team. Kukoc was solid but Jordan carried the team that year, especially without Pippen.
That's great and all but you're ignoring a few key factors here.
1. Pippen still did everything else despite having a poor offensive series. We can't continue to ignore the fact that he was still the one running the show and dictating the offense. These things matter. And when you consider the fact that Jordan had not one but two people averaging 15+ per game, I don't really care that Pippen's offensive numbers weren't up to his usual standards.
2. I really, REALLY hate when people mention the fact that Dennis Rodman wasn't even starting. This implies that his involvement in the series was minimal. It couldn't be further from the truth. Fun fact: Dennis Rodman averaged 30 MPG in that finals series. He was still the one tasked with defending Malone late game. He was still their leading rebounder and one of their best defensive players despite not starting. Mentioning that he didn't start is irrelevant. He still practically played starting minutes.
3. Why do we mention Pippen having a poor offensive series but not Jordan? Yeah he averaged 33 PPG but he did it in incredibly poor shooting percentages. People like to mention LeBron's shooting percentages in the 2015 Finals and attempt to use that against him, but for some reason they don't do the same with Jordan. Yeah I get it, one persons team won and the others didn't. Fine, that's valid. I totally get that. But at the end of the day, Jordan's own offensive contributions aren't what won them that series. It sure as **** didn't give them the big game 4 win where they won by 40 with his *checks notes* 24 points. In the end, I'm pretty sure the key reasons here to the Bulls winning were that they were still an elite defensive team who could limit the Jazz. If the contributions of one player can't be chalked up as the main reason for a team winning (and in this case it's not), then you can't sit here and say it's a carry job.
This goes back to what I'm talking about with 2011 and why Dirk, while deserving consideration, shouldn't be winning this poll. Yeah we talk about the teammates and what they once were or in Dirks case aren't anymore, but we still don't bother looking at the contributions of said teammates AND/OR what Dirk (or in this case Michael) actually contributed themselves.
Was Jordan their best player? Sure. Do Bulls win without him? No. But I've seen much better carry jobs by even Jordan himself. This doesn't deserve consideration.
Rodman averaged around 30 minutes a game but he was in foul trouble in 3 of the games and had under double digit rebounds in all 3 of those games. Game 3 was the blowout game by the Bulls not game 4 and Rodman was great in game 4. It was his best game of the series. He was the teams leading rebounder (8 boards a game) and they needed him obviously (im not questioning his importance to the team). But you could tell his career was about over and he was 38 years old. I dont think he impacted the game like he did the previous runs the Bulls had.
Well when Jordan carried the Bulls during half of the season that Pippen missed with injury and he created the turnover by stealing the ball from Malone and hitting the clincher over Russell in game 6 i think ill give him a break on his low shooting percentage lol.
I wouldnt pick 98 Jordan in this poll. I just said he should be considered. Its Dirk, Iverson 01, or Duncan 03 imo. Dirk was the engine for that squad in 11 and his performance was amazing in leading that team.
2001 Iverson?....The 76ers won the series vs Bucks even if Iverson had been just awful in the first 5 games.The 76ers won the crucial game 5 even if Iverson had 15 points on a 5-27 shooting night
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Homer38 wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:Iwasawitness wrote:
And so was Tyson. Without him the Mavs don't even make the finals, let alone win that series.
Also, idolatry? If you're going to try to sound smart, at least use it in cases where it actually applies. In reality, LeBron shouldn't be the runner up either. To me, it's someone who was able to display utter dominance on both ends of the floor. Duncan or Hakeem are the correct answers here, not Dirk or LeBron.
That's great and all but you're ignoring a few key factors here.
1. Pippen still did everything else despite having a poor offensive series. We can't continue to ignore the fact that he was still the one running the show and dictating the offense. These things matter. And when you consider the fact that Jordan had not one but two people averaging 15+ per game, I don't really care that Pippen's offensive numbers weren't up to his usual standards.
2. I really, REALLY hate when people mention the fact that Dennis Rodman wasn't even starting. This implies that his involvement in the series was minimal. It couldn't be further from the truth. Fun fact: Dennis Rodman averaged 30 MPG in that finals series. He was still the one tasked with defending Malone late game. He was still their leading rebounder and one of their best defensive players despite not starting. Mentioning that he didn't start is irrelevant. He still practically played starting minutes.
3. Why do we mention Pippen having a poor offensive series but not Jordan? Yeah he averaged 33 PPG but he did it in incredibly poor shooting percentages. People like to mention LeBron's shooting percentages in the 2015 Finals and attempt to use that against him, but for some reason they don't do the same with Jordan. Yeah I get it, one persons team won and the others didn't. Fine, that's valid. I totally get that. But at the end of the day, Jordan's own offensive contributions aren't what won them that series. It sure as **** didn't give them the big game 4 win where they won by 40 with his *checks notes* 24 points. In the end, I'm pretty sure the key reasons here to the Bulls winning were that they were still an elite defensive team who could limit the Jazz. If the contributions of one player can't be chalked up as the main reason for a team winning (and in this case it's not), then you can't sit here and say it's a carry job.
This goes back to what I'm talking about with 2011 and why Dirk, while deserving consideration, shouldn't be winning this poll. Yeah we talk about the teammates and what they once were or in Dirks case aren't anymore, but we still don't bother looking at the contributions of said teammates AND/OR what Dirk (or in this case Michael) actually contributed themselves.
Was Jordan their best player? Sure. Do Bulls win without him? No. But I've seen much better carry jobs by even Jordan himself. This doesn't deserve consideration.
Rodman averaged around 30 minutes a game but he was in foul trouble in 3 of the games and had under double digit rebounds in all 3 of those games. Game 3 was the blowout game by the Bulls not game 4 and Rodman was great in game 4. It was his best game of the series. He was the teams leading rebounder (8 boards a game) and they needed him obviously (im not questioning his importance to the team). But you could tell his career was about over and he was 38 years old. I dont think he impacted the game like he did the previous runs the Bulls had.
Well when Jordan carried the Bulls during half of the season that Pippen missed with injury and he created the turnover by stealing the ball from Malone and hitting the clincher over Russell in game 6 i think ill give him a break on his low shooting percentage lol.
I wouldnt pick 98 Jordan in this poll. I just said he should be considered. Its Dirk, Iverson 01, or Duncan 03 imo. Dirk was the engine for that squad in 11 and his performance was amazing in leading that team.
2001 Iverson?....The 76ers won the series vs Bucks even if Iverson had been just awful in the first 5 games.The 76ers won the crucial game 5 even if Iverson had 15 points on a 5-27 shooting night
Take Iverson off that team and who is scoring? Hill? Mutumbo? McKie? Snow? Bell? Just stop lol….that team was built on defense, rebounding, and physicality. But Iverson was their offense. Give the guy some respect.
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MavsDirk41 wrote:Homer38 wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:
Rodman averaged around 30 minutes a game but he was in foul trouble in 3 of the games and had under double digit rebounds in all 3 of those games. Game 3 was the blowout game by the Bulls not game 4 and Rodman was great in game 4. It was his best game of the series. He was the teams leading rebounder (8 boards a game) and they needed him obviously (im not questioning his importance to the team). But you could tell his career was about over and he was 38 years old. I dont think he impacted the game like he did the previous runs the Bulls had.
Well when Jordan carried the Bulls during half of the season that Pippen missed with injury and he created the turnover by stealing the ball from Malone and hitting the clincher over Russell in game 6 i think ill give him a break on his low shooting percentage lol.
I wouldnt pick 98 Jordan in this poll. I just said he should be considered. Its Dirk, Iverson 01, or Duncan 03 imo. Dirk was the engine for that squad in 11 and his performance was amazing in leading that team.
2001 Iverson?....The 76ers won the series vs Bucks even if Iverson had been just awful in the first 5 games.The 76ers won the crucial game 5 even if Iverson had 15 points on a 5-27 shooting night
Take Iverson off that team and who is scoring? Hill? Mutumbo? McKie? Snow? Bell? Just stop lol….that team was built on defense, rebounding, and physicality. But Iverson was their offense. Give the guy some respect.
what about LBJ in 2007?
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Homer38 wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:Homer38 wrote:
2001 Iverson?....The 76ers won the series vs Bucks even if Iverson had been just awful in the first 5 games.The 76ers won the crucial game 5 even if Iverson had 15 points on a 5-27 shooting night
Take Iverson off that team and who is scoring? Hill? Mutumbo? McKie? Snow? Bell? Just stop lol….that team was built on defense, rebounding, and physicality. But Iverson was their offense. Give the guy some respect.
what about LBJ in 2007?
Impressive but not who i would pick in this poll. The east sucked too.
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Homer38 wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:Homer38 wrote:
2001 Iverson?....The 76ers won the series vs Bucks even if Iverson had been just awful in the first 5 games.The 76ers won the crucial game 5 even if Iverson had 15 points on a 5-27 shooting night
Take Iverson off that team and who is scoring? Hill? Mutumbo? McKie? Snow? Bell? Just stop lol….that team was built on defense, rebounding, and physicality. But Iverson was their offense. Give the guy some respect.
what about LBJ in 2007?
Tell me who is scoring for Philly without Iverson on that 01 squad?
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MavsDirk41 wrote:Homer38 wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:
Take Iverson off that team and who is scoring? Hill? Mutumbo? McKie? Snow? Bell? Just stop lol….that team was built on defense, rebounding, and physicality. But Iverson was their offense. Give the guy some respect.
what about LBJ in 2007?
Tell me who is scoring for Philly without Iverson on that 01 squad?
Their offense were awful but as a team,they were 6-5 without him.Not good but we've seen worse...It was a classic Larry Brown team. A team that lived or died by the team defense.
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This is hard to win for any team when your best player has a 5-27 shooting night for 15 points and 10-32 for 28 points but the 76ers won back to back game with game like this by Iverson in the Bucks series....To be a impressive carry job,you need to be great too!
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Homer38 wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:Homer38 wrote:
what about LBJ in 2007?
Tell me who is scoring for Philly without Iverson on that 01 squad?
Their offense were awful but as a team,they were 6-5 without him.Not good but we've seen worse...It was a classic Larry Brown team. A team that lived or died by the team defense.
I agree about Larry Brown focusing on defense but Iverson averaged 31 a game for that team. Other than that Mutumbo and Aaron McKie averaged 12 points each. Everybody knew Iverson was their only offensive option and they still couldnt stop him. Baffled how you think this isnt impressive……
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Homer38 wrote:This is hard to win for any team when your best player has a 5-27 shooting night for 15 points and 10-32 for 28 points but the 76ers won back to back game with game like this by Iverson in the Bucks series....To be a impressive carry job,you need to be great too!
Your basing 82 game regular season plus 3 rounds of the playoffs just to make the finals off 2 games??? Lol what in the world is going on
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MavsDirk41 wrote:Homer38 wrote:This is hard to win for any team when your best player has a 5-27 shooting night for 15 points and 10-32 for 28 points but the 76ers won back to back game with game like this by Iverson in the Bucks series....To be a impressive carry job,you need to be great too!
Your basing 82 game regular season plus 3 rounds of the playoffs just to make the finals off 2 games??? Lol what in the world is going on
If the 76ers lose one of those 2 games,they are not in the finals
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Homer38 wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:Homer38 wrote:This is hard to win for any team when your best player has a 5-27 shooting night for 15 points and 10-32 for 28 points but the 76ers won back to back game with game like this by Iverson in the Bucks series....To be a impressive carry job,you need to be great too!
Your basing 82 game regular season plus 3 rounds of the playoffs just to make the finals off 2 games??? Lol what in the world is going on
If the 76ers lose one of those 2 games,they are not in the finals
Ok and if Ray Allen doesnt hit that 3 against San Antonio in the 2013 finals James is 3-7 in the finals… we can what if all day
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MavsDirk41 wrote:The4thHorseman wrote:MavsDirk41 wrote:
The 2011 Mavs had depth, veteran leadership, and the perfect balance of offense/defense. They were almost the perfect team. Dirk was the catalyst and they fed off of him. Chandler was the defensive anchor, Kidd the teams QB, Marion the perfect compliment to Dirk, and Terry the sparkplug. But Dirk was the go to guy and he delivered. It was awesome to watch him become so focused and determined. My favorite finals ever.
Jordan in 98 deserves consideration come on man. Pippen missed half the season and that was Pippens worse finals performance out of the 6. He barely played in game 6 because his back. He was never the same player after sustaining that injury. Rodman didnt even start for the Bulls. He was basically washed after that season and was a distraction to the team. Kukoc was solid but Jordan carried the team that year, especially without Pippen.
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You might want to re-watch that series. Before his injury and after game 4 there were talks of him deserving of the FMVP. Sam Smith wrote an article on that exact subject saying Scottie deserved it but it's behind a pay wall of the Chicago tribune.
Here's another article suggesting the same thing.
https://www.deseret.com/1998/6/11/19385041/what-about-pippen-for-nba-finals-mvp/
Obviously this was written before his injury but there wouldn't have been multiple articles written in his favor of FMVP if was indeed his worst Finals performance of the 6 like you claimed.
Go check out his performance in games 1 and 5 pal. He was great in game 4 and the Bulls curbed stomped Utah in game 3. Compared to the other 5 finals this was his worst performance (age/injuries a factor of course). But ill wait for your reply to dispute my claim…..
Your reasoning for saying it was his worst Finals is strictly based on his ppg avg. That's a you problem which doesn't require disputing. I already gave you the best advice and watch the series again or more than likely be your first time seeing it
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Utah was a dynasty in the 90s
Blazers had a mini dynasty late 80s early 90s
Utah was a dynasty in the 90s
Blazers had a mini dynasty late 80s early 90s

