Jontay Porter banned from the NBA

[Rainwater]

Gambling messes with the integrity of the game itself. It’s the cardinal sin of professional sports. How players act in their personal lives, they care about, but not nearly as much.

I was waiting for someone to to explain this to everyone.

[Cubbies2120]

I actually like Porters game so thats why I'd a little more upset than the average fan here. 1 year would have been fine with him meeting conditions like seeking help should have been the penalty here.

But how could you ever watch him airball a three, make a crucial turnover in crunch time, or "have an injury in the first quarter" without wondering? This guy seems to have signs of addiction anyway, with crypto and day trading and this. Takes way more than a year to recover from a fundamental character defect of that magnitude.

I love how gambling "addiction" is viewed as an "character defect" while those looking down on it likely suffer from obesity, mental illness, perverse porn habits and a host of other issues that are far more serious. You will pay to get closer to heart disease (McDonald's), support artificial relationships (OnlyFans), etc but lord forbid someone uses their money on what is essentially a form of entertainment that may potentially have great outcomes.

I received a meager $91K inheritance when my old man passed away from COVID in early 2020, yet my "addiction" has turned it into a significantly larger chunk.

[JayMKE]

NBA isn't in charge of handing out judicial punishments whereas it is up to them to maintain the integrity & legitimacy of the game. Jontay is a smart guy and I'm sure knew the consequences of actions if caught, now he can be a full time gambler.

[WestGOAT]

I actually like Porters game so thats why I'd a little more upset than the average fan here. 1 year would have been fine with him meeting conditions like seeking help should have been the penalty here.

But how could you ever watch him airball a three, make a crucial turnover in crunch time, or "have an injury in the first quarter" without wondering? This guy seems to have signs of addiction anyway, with crypto and day trading and this. Takes way more than a year to recover from a fundamental character defect of that magnitude.

I love how gambling "addiction" is viewed as an "character defect" while those looking down on it likely suffer from obesity, mental illness, perverse porn habits and a host of other issues that are far more serious. You will pay to get closer to heart disease (McDonald's), support artificial relationships (OnlyFans), etc but lord forbid someone uses their money on what is essentially a form of entertainment that may potentially have great outcomes.

I received a meager $91K inheritance when my old man passed away from COVID in early 2020, yet my "addiction" has turned it into a significantly larger chunk.

Nice return, keep pushing those numbers, you can hit the 7-digits if you keep this up!

[MrGoat]

Can anyone explain why a lifetime ban and simply not just a season or two and mandatory rehab? Who knows he is suffering from a gambling addiction, and it doesn't help that the NBA is actually financially profiting of a people that might also be addicts.

In Europe there were some major cases in pro football recently, Sandro Tonali and Ivan Toney and they got way less severe bans: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/68595134

Bit of weird of the NBA to go so extreme

Read the post right below yours, I answer your question

And how do you know Tonali and Toney didn't do something similar?

Because I read the article and the fact that people are actually defending them already tells me they weren't doing the same thing. Those soccer players sound like degenerate gamblers with a problem and that's why they are being defended by others. What Porter did isn't tied to any gambling addiction, it's not even really gambling at all because he's rigging the result in his favor and at his own team's expense. What Porter did wasn't gambling, it was theft, that's the difference. It's illegal too so Porter had better hope charges don't get filed against him or a prison term is in his immediate future

[disoblige]

I love how gambling "addiction" is viewed as an "character defect" while those looking down on it likely suffer from obesity, mental illness, perverse porn habits and a host of other issues that are far more serious. You will pay to get closer to heart disease (McDonald's), support artificial relationships (OnlyFans), etc but lord forbid someone uses their money on what is essentially a form of entertainment that may potentially have great outcomes.

I received a meager $91K inheritance when my old man passed away from COVID in early 2020, yet my "addiction" has turned it into a significantly larger chunk.

Are you proud of that? Risking your savings on games where the odds are against you.

[gbball]

It's too bad, he was a promising player. Seemed pretty smart too.

He must've already been mixed up with this stuff and someone leaned on him to get squared.

I'm in agreement with the ban, but there is a ton of hypocrisy involved.

NBA and broadcasters being in bed with gambling organizations.

NBA with it's favored outcomes.

Refs with some questionable officiating.

Raptor's and other teams blatantly tanking for a better chance in the draft lottery.

[sfernald]

I understand they are going to make an example of him and ban his entire family from the game…. Denver f@@k@d.

[MrGoat]

I understand they are going to make an example of him and ban his entire family from the game…. Denver f@@k@d.

MPJ is on a huge contract, there's no way he'd be stupid enough to be even remotely involved in this.

[Doctor MJ]

Where's the Lifetime ban for beating your wife?

It's not really all that hard to understand:

It's the job of the government to determine punishment for criminals in general, and generally there's no formal official punishment by companies beyond this. However when someone does something that specifically undermines their company they work for, that company and others may take specific actions.

For a league whose whole thing is competitive legitimacy, a player who goes against that is a specific threat to the concept of that league.

Now, can a league decide to make a moral show of banning a player because he did something immoral unrelated to the league's play? Sure, but the motivation for banning someone who is violating the premise of the league has nothing to do with moral shows and everything to do with protecting their actual product.

Also so we're clear: This is how thing have always been in pro sports since before you were born, so you not understanding this has nothing to do with you not understanding something inconsistent with what came before, and everything to do with you not understanding what was already understood by those who understood pro sports the entire time you've been paying attention.

In the future, you might just consider that you may just not be able to figure things out on your own and so when something is confusing, sincerely ask others who can answer the question for you quickly.

[Nate505]

Can anyone explain why a lifetime ban and simply not just a season or two and mandatory rehab?

Because the NBA cares about the integrity of their sport.

Well that's the theory. The reality is more mixed, but apparently this idiot bet against his own team to lose, and there are some lines that can't be crossed. That is one of them, and it's so blindingly obvious that anyone who does it should get a ban not just because of them ruining the integrity of the league, but because they are astonishingly stupid/arrogant. I wouldn't trust any league that allowed people like that to be a part of it.

[sfernald]

I understand they are going to make an example of him and ban his entire family from the game…. Denver f@@k@d.

MPJ is on a huge contract, there's no way he'd be stupid enough to be even remotely involved in this.

Basically the nba is now a big mafia gambling operation and you know what mafia does when you screw up, they kill you AND your family.

[disoblige]

Where's the Lifetime ban for beating your wife?

See Kevin Porter Jr whether he is on the league. Nba has no power or business with player's personal life. They just waive players if it is severe.

[sfernald]

Can anyone explain why a lifetime ban and simply not just a season or two and mandatory rehab?

Because the NBA cares about the integrity of their sport.

Well that's the theory. The reality is more mixed, but apparently this idiot bet against his own team to lose, and there are some lines that can't be crossed. That is one of them, and it's so blindingly obvious that anyone who does it should get a ban not just because of them ruining the integrity of the league, but because they are astonishingly stupid/arrogant. I wouldn't trust any league that allowed people like that to be a part of it.

They care about the racket they got going.

[MrGoat]

Can anyone explain why a lifetime ban and simply not just a season or two and mandatory rehab?

Because the NBA cares about the integrity of their sport.

Well that's the theory. The reality is more mixed, but apparently this idiot bet against his own team to lose. I wouldn't trust any league that allowed people like that to be a part of it.

He not only bet against his own team, he bet against himself. He took unders on his own point totals for two games and decided he had a tummy ache or something and left those games really early on that pretense and had someone else place a big bet on it for him. Having the nerve to try that a second time is how he got caught. We're talking about a complete moron here

[brutalitops]

Player gets banned for manipulating gambling bets

The realm brains trust -"They wouldn't do this if it was LeBron"

"What about beating your wife???"

"Conspiracy!"

He deserves the lifetime ban. Absolutely ridiculous thing to do

[WestGOAT]

Player gets banned for manipulating gambling bets

The realm brains trust -"They wouldn't do this if it was LeBron"

"What about beating your wife???"

"Conspiracy!"

He deserves the lifetime ban. Absolutely ridiculous thing to do

If it were LeBron they'd have done the same as Jordan, 1 season max.

[Bulliever2020]

Was expecting this to be the lead story on PTI and it is not being talked about at all. Did ESPN put the kibosh on any discussion regarding this subject? Seems sketchy.

[Quattro]

Where's the Lifetime ban for beating your wife?

Look, everyone knows that's bad, but what you do in your private life should not affect your professional life unless it can directly affect what you do professionally. If you're running a women's shelter and you're beating your wife you should get a lifetime ban. If you're betting on your own team to lose you should get the same. Otherwise we should leave it to the courts and not our bosses to decide what's wrong.

I'm not sure what industry you work in but if I was criminally charged with domestic assault (or any other crime for that matter), id be looking for a new job. And most jobs are the same way.

[azcatz11]

Was expecting this to be the lead story on PTI and it is not being talked about at all. Did ESPN put the kibosh on any discussion regarding this subject? Seems sketchy.

PTI normally has an espn bet segment…it would be awkward for them to air this. Kornheiser and Wilbon are complicit imo