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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:03 am
by cgf
eyeatoma wrote:
axeman23 wrote:
lobosloboslobos wrote:
damn. that is what i would call provocative. surprised there wasn't a giant brawl.



Philly fans after game 3:

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Philly fans after Game 4:

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:lol:


Nope he's ours and he's great. The dude is playing with a messed up leg and face. Go ahead and try and play with Bell's Palsy, I'm sure you're dropping 50 night to night.

Problem was that Nurse played him the entire 2nd half. The problem is that the Sixers bench is so ass, that they are over -30 when he's off the floor and +30 when he's on. Again, don't let facts get in the way of a good story though.


Philly is +14.6 with Embiid on the floor.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:04 am
by cgf
Gusto1903 wrote:Lol at Embiid once again suckin in the Playoffs.
But this is ridiculous beyond belief. Why is he griefing so hard. That stepping on Harts leg is horrible. The worst part is, that he does it multiple times, he knows exactly what hes doing. It looks really painful, especially with the size and weight of him.


Because he knows we're the better team.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:21 am
by eyeatoma
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
axeman23 wrote:

Philly fans after game 3:

Image



Philly fans after Game 4:

Image

:lol:


Nope he's ours and he's great. The dude is playing with a messed up leg and face. Go ahead and try and play with Bell's Palsy, I'm sure you're dropping 50 night to night.

Problem was that Nurse played him the entire 2nd half. The problem is that the Sixers bench is so ass, that they are over -30 when he's off the floor and +30 when he's on. Again, don't let facts get in the way of a good story though.


Philly is +14.6 with Embiid on the floor.


After today's game.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:29 am
by cgf
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Nope he's ours and he's great. The dude is playing with a messed up leg and face. Go ahead and try and play with Bell's Palsy, I'm sure you're dropping 50 night to night.

Problem was that Nurse played him the entire 2nd half. The problem is that the Sixers bench is so ass, that they are over -30 when he's off the floor and +30 when he's on. Again, don't let facts get in the way of a good story though.


Philly is +14.6 with Embiid on the floor.


After today's game.


It was +14.8 before game 4.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:32 am
by eyeatoma
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
Philly is +14.6 with Embiid on the floor.


After today's game.


It was +14.8 before game 4.



Then I'm mistaken, as I heard it was +30 in one of the games or in the series. What's the offcourt?

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:43 am
by eyeatoma
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
After today's game.


It was +14.8 before game 4.



Read on Twitter


Is is Kevin O'Connor wrong then?

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:46 am
by cgf
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
After today's game.


It was +14.8 before game 4.



Then I'm mistaken, as I heard it was +30 in one of the games or in the series. What's the offcourt?


It may have been that high in one of the individual games, not sure how to find individual game net ratings. His On-Off is an insane +75.0

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:47 am
by eyeatoma
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
It was +14.8 before game 4.



Then I'm mistaken, as I heard it was +30 in one of the games or in the series. What's the offcourt?


It may have been that high in one of the individual games, not sure how to find individual game net ratings. His On-Off is an insane +75.0



See my post above yours. This is where I got it from, can you share your source? Because either you or O'Connor are wrong, and I'll go with the professional on this one.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask?q=joel+embiid+%2B%2F-+in+2024+post+season

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:48 am
by AdagioPace
eyeatoma wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
It was +14.8 before game 4.



Read on Twitter


Is is Kevin O'Connor wrong then?


Embiid is clearly a dominant player when on the floor. My impression is that he often looks gassed in crunch time though compared to the average player. it's only my impression but It would be interesting to see his +/- during the last minutes of the game.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:49 am
by cgf
eyeatoma wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
It was +14.8 before game 4.



Read on Twitter


Is is Kevin O'Connor wrong then?


Gotcha, thought you were talking about net rating...which is calculated per 100 possessions...KOC is talking about the raw point totals.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:50 am
by cgf
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Then I'm mistaken, as I heard it was +30 in one of the games or in the series. What's the offcourt?


It may have been that high in one of the individual games, not sure how to find individual game net ratings. His On-Off is an insane +75.0



See my post above yours. This is where I got it from, can you share your source? Because either you or O'Connor are wrong, and I'll go with the professional on this one.


See my previous post, and my source was bbref

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/embiijo01.html#all_pbp-playoffs_pbp

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:51 am
by eyeatoma
AdagioPace wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:



Read on Twitter


Is is Kevin O'Connor wrong then?


Embiid is clearly a dominant player when on the floor. My impression is that he often looks gassed in crunch time though compared to the average player. it's only my impression but It would be interesting to see his +/- during the last minutes of the game.



I mean, facial paralysis, and an injured leg, while no time to get conditioning will do that. He also played 44 minutes total, 4 minutes of rest, and all of the 2nd half. Which he's never done in his entire life. All on bad conditioning. It's an indictment on the team, his teammates and management for not putting competent players around him. Players who have been horrible, Tobias Harris, Paul Reed, Buddy Hield. Not to mention getting absolutely destroyed on the glass.

Maxey has been terrific this series but was terrible the 4th quarter, missing a wide open 3 pointer, and not realizing Kyle Lowry was trying to miss the shot,and he was supposed to get the rebound, which was coming his way.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 11:56 am
by eyeatoma
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
It may have been that high in one of the individual games, not sure how to find individual game net ratings. His On-Off is an insane +75.0



See my post above yours. This is where I got it from, can you share your source? Because either you or O'Connor are wrong, and I'll go with the professional on this one.


See my previous post, and my source was bbref

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/embiijo01.html#all_pbp-playoffs_pbp



I'm looking everywhere but can't see the +/- for the series, or the offcourt numbers. If your'e looking at the average I'm not sure that's how you calculate it. BBref is also missing today's game.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:00 pm
by eyeatoma
cgf wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:



Read on Twitter


Is is Kevin O'Connor wrong then?


Gotcha, thought you were talking about net rating...which is calculated per 100 possessions...KOC is talking about the raw point totals.
Ah ok

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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:04 pm
by socal74
eyeatoma wrote:
AdagioPace wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:

Read on Twitter


Is is Kevin O'Connor wrong then?


Embiid is clearly a dominant player when on the floor. My impression is that he often looks gassed in crunch time though compared to the average player. it's only my impression but It would be interesting to see his +/- during the last minutes of the game.



I mean, facial paralysis, and an injured leg, while no time to get conditioning will do that. He also played 44 minutes total, 4 minutes of rest, and all of the 2nd half. Which he's never done in his entire life. All on bad conditioning. It's an indictment on the team, his teammates and management for not putting competent players around him. Players who have been horrible, Tobias Harris, Paul Reed, Buddy Hield. Not to mention getting absolutely destroyed on the glass.

Maxey has been terrific this series but was terrible the 4th quarter, missing a wide open 3 pointer, and not realizing Kyle Lowry was trying to miss the shot,and he was supposed to get the rebound, which was coming his way.

Is brain paralysis an issue too? I have never seen a player just maliciously trying to hurt other players and not get punished at all. This is some weird ****.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:13 pm
by socal74
MVP1992 wrote:
Hatrick Ewing wrote:
OrangeBlueSkies wrote:

Embiid is damaged goods. Yes, his contract has certain benchmarks that he must hit and that protect against knee injuries, but that being said, who wants to trade assets for him? I'm sorry, but giving up 5 FRPS for Embiid is worse than that Gobert trade. Rudy is one of the NBA's IRONMEN, who also has A MASSIVE IMPACT ON WINNING. Does Joel win? Is Joel a winner? Or a whiner?


Whiner!



Are you guys suggesting Embiid has little impact on winning games?

What was the sixers record playing with him vs without him this season?


Your team is not winning so what impact is he actually making? All these on off BS metric. He's been scrubalicious in the 4th quarter of all 4 games these playoffs. Where's the impact when it counts? He's playing in the 4th qtr right?

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:20 pm
by Decipher
socal74 wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:
Hatrick Ewing wrote:
Whiner!



Are you guys suggesting Embiid has little impact on winning games?

What was the sixers record playing with him vs without him this season?


Your team is not winning so what impact is he actually making? All these on off BS metric. He's been scrubalicious in the 4th quarter of all 4 games these playoffs. Where's the impact when it counts? He's playing in the 4th qtr right?


I can’t stand the way Embiid plays but he’s the best player in the series by some distance

That’s hardly surprising because he is

Unfortunately, he isn’t fit & is being run into the ground because the Sixers are horrendous with him sitting

Bash him for his antics but the guy can play

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:26 pm
by Rendei
eyeatoma wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
cgf wrote:
It was +14.8 before game 4.



Read on Twitter


Is is Kevin O'Connor wrong then?

That just makes his -4 in the 4th quarter this series all the more eye popping.

Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:26 pm
by eyeatoma
Decipher wrote:
socal74 wrote:
MVP1992 wrote:

Are you guys suggesting Embiid has little impact on winning games?

What was the sixers record playing with him vs without him this season?


Your team is not winning so what impact is he actually making? All these on off BS metric. He's been scrubalicious in the 4th quarter of all 4 games these playoffs. Where's the impact when it counts? He's playing in the 4th qtr right?


I can’t stand the way Embiid plays but he’s the best player in the series by some distance

That’s hardly surprising because he is

Unfortunately, he isn’t fit & is being run into the ground because the Sixers are horrendous with him sitting

Bash him for his antics but the guy can play
This

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Re: Joel Embiid is a dirty player

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2024 12:27 pm
by eyeatoma
Rendei wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:



Read on Twitter


Is is Kevin O'Connor wrong then?

That just makes his -4 in the 4th quarter this series all the more eye popping.
Right it's his fault not his -37 team lol. If you're run into the ground of course you'll suck at the end of the game.

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