[Woj] Free agent C Isaiah Hartenstein has agreed on a three-year, $87 million deal with the Oklahoma City Thunder

[Hoop Hunter]

It's OKC's NBA world now, we all just living in it.

[Xatticus]

Bruh.

Tell me what’s inaccurate about the post?

Inaccurate…well ’m not up to date on the “impact metrics.” Also not sure if they are meant to rate players. With that said, if they are —-> this a mistake and they need to do some root cause analysis.


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Agreed. Impact metrics are severely flawed because they only factor whether a player helps his team win games or not. There is so much more that goes into making a basketball player popular on RealGM. The impact metrics only liked Hartenstein because the Knicks kicked the crap out of their opponents when he was on the floor.

I was hoping that OKC would pursue Hartenstein in free agency and I was initially quite pleased with the addition, but I've been corrected by all the kind folks posting in this thread that he must be overpaid because they aren't very familiar with him.

[Xatticus]

Title favorites easily to me. Yes, much better than Boston and Philly.

Nope. They got dominated by an average Mavs team. Adding Caruso and Hart won't put them on the level of Boston new York or philly

They might make it out the west though

Yeah. We got dominated by that team that scored exactly the same number of points as we did in the series.

[ThunderBolt]

Tell me what’s inaccurate about the post?

Inaccurate…well ’m not up to date on the “impact metrics.” Also not sure if they are meant to rate players. With that said, if they are —-> this a mistake and they need to do some root cause analysis.


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Agreed. Impact metrics are severely flawed because they only factor whether a player helps his team win games or not. There is so much more that goes into making a basketball player popular on RealGM. The impact metrics only liked Hartenstein because the Knicks kicked the crap out of their opponents when he was on the floor.

I was hoping that OKC would pursue Hartenstein in free agency and I was initially quite pleased with the addition, but I've been corrected by all the kind folks posting in this thread that he must be overpaid because they aren't very familiar with him.

Someone said they had never even heard of Wiggins and Joe after their extensions. One day maybe our roster will be known by some of the GB heavyweight posters.

[sikma42]

Tell me what’s inaccurate about the post?

Inaccurate…well ’m not up to date on the “impact metrics.” Also not sure if they are meant to rate players. With that said, if they are —-> this a mistake and they need to do some root cause analysis.


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Agreed. Impact metrics are severely flawed because they only factor whether a player helps his team win games or not. There is so much more that goes into making a basketball player popular on RealGM. The impact metrics only liked Hartenstein because the Knicks kicked the crap out of their opponents when he was on the floor.

I was hoping that OKC would pursue Hartenstein in free agency and I was initially quite pleased with the addition, but I've been corrected by all the kind folks posting in this thread that he must be overpaid because they aren't very familiar with him.

Okay so you think that IH is a top 10-15 player impact-wise? If so, then OKC got a steal. I'll be sure to watch IH more and congrats for getting an all-nba talent (as per metric)!

If it turns out he is a just a rotational big and Chet struggles relatively at the 4..honestly, I don't think anyone could have seen it coming. If OKC fans are clamoring for him to get less minutes with Chet...again, could never have seen it coming. Again congrats on winning the title! Surely it won't be like last time the organization screwed it up.

[Slimjimzv]

Inaccurate…well ’m not up to date on the “impact metrics.” Also not sure if they are meant to rate players. With that said, if they are —-> this a mistake and they need to do some root cause analysis.


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Agreed. Impact metrics are severely flawed because they only factor whether a player helps his team win games or not. There is so much more that goes into making a basketball player popular on RealGM. The impact metrics only liked Hartenstein because the Knicks kicked the crap out of their opponents when he was on the floor.

I was hoping that OKC would pursue Hartenstein in free agency and I was initially quite pleased with the addition, but I've been corrected by all the kind folks posting in this thread that he must be overpaid because they aren't very familiar with him.

Okay so you think that IH is a top 10-15 player impact-wise? If so, then OKC got a steal. I'll be sure to watch IH more and congrats for getting an all-nba talent (as per metric)!

If it turns out he is a just a rotational big and Chet struggles relatively at the 4..honestly, I don't think anyone could have seen it coming. If OKC fans are clamoring for him to get less minutes with Chet...again, could never have seen it coming. Again congrats on winning the title! Surely it won't be like last time the organization screwed it up.

Trying to figure out what your goal is at this point. Just being mean? Did someone on the Thunder wrong you? You're dumping on moves they made today that are CLEARLY excellent moves for the team. Is this a devil's advocate thing?

[OkcSinceSGA]

Inaccurate…well ’m not up to date on the “impact metrics.” Also not sure if they are meant to rate players. With that said, if they are —-> this a mistake and they need to do some root cause analysis.


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Agreed. Impact metrics are severely flawed because they only factor whether a player helps his team win games or not. There is so much more that goes into making a basketball player popular on RealGM. The impact metrics only liked Hartenstein because the Knicks kicked the crap out of their opponents when he was on the floor.

I was hoping that OKC would pursue Hartenstein in free agency and I was initially quite pleased with the addition, but I've been corrected by all the kind folks posting in this thread that he must be overpaid because they aren't very familiar with him.

Okay so you think that IH is a top 10-15 player impact-wise? If so, then OKC got a steal. I'll be sure to watch IH more and congrats for getting an all-nba talent (as per metric)!

If it turns out he is a just a rotational big and Chet struggles relatively at the 4..honestly, I don't think anyone could have seen it coming. If OKC fans are clamoring for him to get less minutes with Chet...again, could never have seen it coming. Again congrats on winning the title! Surely it won't be like last time the organization screwed it up.

I’m sure Knicks and Clippers fans who actually experienced his play will be more than happy to enlighten you on why he’s not just a “rotational big”. There is a lot more merit in data than “I’ve never heard much about this guy, he can’t be that great”.

[bkkrh]

I would have loved to have him back on the Knicks, not for this price. Totally makes sense for OKC and they can afford it, but I'm not worried. There are so many decent Centers sitting on benches that just need the right opportunity. Think it was never easier to find a decent big that can aver 20-25 minutes per night.

[WargamesX]

Title favorites easily to me. Yes, much better than Boston and Philly.

Nope. They got dominated by an average Mavs team. Adding Caruso and Hart won't put them on the level of Boston new York or philly

They might make it out the west though

Yeah. We got dominated by that team that scored exactly the same number of points as we did in the series.

No offense I hate that metric. It doesn’t actually explain anything because it only takes 1 or 2 games of scoring outliers to make the data set pointless. Don’t even get me started on how it ignores rebounds, second chance points, and assist throughout a series. The eye test is more accurate and that is as subjective as you can get.

It’s at best an interesting fact.

[Iwasawitness]

$30M/yr is a steal for Hartenstein?

Valaciunas just got paid $10M/yr. Hartenstein is not $20M/yr better than JV.

Hartenstein was in DPOY conversations. Get real. This is a steal.

You ever think that was because of Thibs and his system? Hartenstein was never in DPOY until this run with Knicks.

Ever heard of internal improvement?

[sikma42]

Agreed. Impact metrics are severely flawed because they only factor whether a player helps his team win games or not. There is so much more that goes into making a basketball player popular on RealGM. The impact metrics only liked Hartenstein because the Knicks kicked the crap out of their opponents when he was on the floor.

I was hoping that OKC would pursue Hartenstein in free agency and I was initially quite pleased with the addition, but I've been corrected by all the kind folks posting in this thread that he must be overpaid because they aren't very familiar with him.

Okay so you think that IH is a top 10-15 player impact-wise? If so, then OKC got a steal. I'll be sure to watch IH more and congrats for getting an all-nba talent (as per metric)!

If it turns out he is a just a rotational big and Chet struggles relatively at the 4..honestly, I don't think anyone could have seen it coming. If OKC fans are clamoring for him to get less minutes with Chet...again, could never have seen it coming. Again congrats on winning the title! Surely it won't be like last time the organization screwed it up.

I’m sure Knicks and Clippers fans who actually experienced his play will be more than happy to enlighten you on why he’s not just a “rotational big”. There is a lot more merit in data than “I’ve never heard much about this guy, he can’t be that great”.

Again, I think he is talented. I do not think Chet will play very well at the 4. I've said this all season long and in several OKC game threads on the GB. Bc of that IH's impact will be limited relative to what was seen in NY and he will get rotational minutes in the playoffs or it will be a clunky fit.

[OkcSinceSGA]

Okay so you think that IH is a top 10-15 player impact-wise? If so, then OKC got a steal. I'll be sure to watch IH more and congrats for getting an all-nba talent (as per metric)!

If it turns out he is a just a rotational big and Chet struggles relatively at the 4..honestly, I don't think anyone could have seen it coming. If OKC fans are clamoring for him to get less minutes with Chet...again, could never have seen it coming. Again congrats on winning the title! Surely it won't be like last time the organization screwed it up.

I’m sure Knicks and Clippers fans who actually experienced his play will be more than happy to enlighten you on why he’s not just a “rotational big”. There is a lot more merit in data than “I’ve never heard much about this guy, he can’t be that great”.

Again, I think he is talented. I do not think Chet will play very well at the 4. I've said this all season long and in several OKC game threads on the GB. Bc of that IH's impact will be limited relative to what was seen in NY and he will get rotational minutes in the playoffs or it will be a clunky fit.

I think Chet at PF is more ideal. He’s got the foot speed but lacks the strength. You aren’t gonna play Hartenstein who is a much higher impact player than Chet currently in rotational spot minutes lol.

[OkcSinceSGA]

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[Ritzo]

Good player but that's an overpay, or maybe they did it so Knicks can't match the offer.

[ITYSL]

Great move by the Thunder! Knicks will miss him - he's one of the more underrated centers in the league. Durable and could potentially be a double-double machine if he gets starter minutes.

[dkb964]

Shai
Caruso
J Dub
Chet
Hartenstein

Joe
Wiggins
Dort
J Will

I imagine Dort starts over Caruso but they look great on paper!

Maybe but no question Caruso will finish.

Dort may as well if they go small to finsh games with Chet at the 5.

[magee]

For anyone thinking this is an overpay, he'll be making less than Jordan Poole and DeAndre Ayton.

[dakomish23]

OKC would be wise to maximize this underrated Hartenstein skill

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[bluemj32]

OKC has to be favorites now, assuming Porzingis will be injured as usual


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they're in a good spot but i think they still need a secondary iso scorer to really give them the leg up.

JDub

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[jordanwilliams6]

The money is entirely irrelevant unless it costs them any of their key guys, which is hasn’t.

OKC are now ready to compete for the ‘25 season and for the foreseeable future.