Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him

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Post#261 » by WarriorGM » Wed Aug 14, 2024 11:29 am

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Again, finding patterns where they do not exist at all. A couple of polls from several years ago asking specific questions like who is having a better season or who has been the better playoff performer. This isn't anything, at all.

You're not going to listen to reason though, so not sure what else to tell you. Continue to seethe and let this nonexistent Curry disrespect eat at you.


If you wish to turn a blind eye to it that's your prerogative, but other people do see it quite clearly.

Continue to seethe and let the disrespect eat at me? Is that your way of wishing me well? Why thank you!


4 years ago?! Who is gaslighting who here my man?


Steph Curry is the greatest player of this era. Do you have a problem with me saying that? Because you see other posters here calling me a troll and lunatic for saying that. It's not 4 year ago anymore, it's today, and even 4 years ago that should have been a perfectly fine thing to say.
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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#262 » by Iwasawitness » Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:08 pm

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Damn Harden’s obsessed fan is back :lol:


Now they can battle it out with their conspiracy theories. Magnet rims vs Curry being hated by the media, which is worse?



Lebron shot chart in paris kind of eludes to this theory tho. Lebron had a lot more layups/dunks about 10x as many than jumpers over in olympic play lol


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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#263 » by chudak » Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:50 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:It's funny how many posters are proving OP's point by dismissing it.



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Post#264 » by michaelm » Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:08 pm

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Chanel Bomber wrote:It's funny how many posters are proving OP's point by dismissing it.


Yup.

They say they aren't gaslighting and don't see it—and then they call me a lunatic!

Unbelievable!

There appears to be a part of you that feels slighted, feels like you don’t deserve acknowledgment, and it looks like you are projecting this onto a perceived slight of Curry? Am I wrong?
What does this part of you really want? For Curry to be acknowledged, or does it want to feel acknowledged. Well I acknowledge and appreciate your passion for this topic and your love of basketball, the warriors, and Curry.
I am sorry people are calling you a lunatic. That’s not true. Just a very passionate fan.

I still take issue of you using the term gaslighting for this situation, but if that’s what it feels like to you then OK.
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Pretty much my view. Warrior GM is a passionate fan of Curry and GSW, and has every reason to be, just as LeBron fans have every reason to be enthusiastic about him, and I don’t believe the recent Olympics have provided any reason for he or they to change their opinions.

I wouldn’t apply the term gaslighting myself to a preference for another great basketball player over the one you most revere, but calling Warrior GM a troll for his view can’t be justified either as you are more or less saying.

As a biased GSW fan my view is that at their respective peaks you could build a better team around Curry while LeBron was excellent at more aspects of basketball, pretty much all aspects of course. Again as a GSW fan I will happily take the 4 titles won by my team and the 2017 team being in the conversation for the best ever over a title or two and my team subsequently cratering, but if you ask me in a decade and GSW have catered for a decade as doesn’t seem entirely unlikely just now my view may alter, although not of Curry. I will however always have nigh on a decade of great memories.
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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#265 » by SerialChiller » Wed Aug 14, 2024 1:09 pm

Curry is an amazing player. And he legit seems like a good dude from what I've seen of him in interviews and stuff. But his prancing around and lame celebrations made it hard for me to personally root for him as a player. He just seemed like such a cocky front runner during the Warriors dominant years and it just rubbed me the wrong way. But he's hardly alone in that regard I'm just pretty old school when it comes to that stuff. And grew up playing hockey where you end up getting smoked or having to fight if you showboat too much. But All that being said I never thought I'd actually like watching a player shoot so many 3s. He's ridiculous to be sure with his stroke and range. I actually mostly admired how be improved his defense over his career, although now obviously due to age it's declined once again.
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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#266 » by AdagioPace » Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:46 pm

This seems like a giant strawman. Curry is one of the most beloved players out there. With fame comes a bit of everything. People, tough, will never see Curry as an immaculated figure ala Dirk or Timmeh
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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#267 » by brackdan70 » Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:54 pm

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WarriorGM wrote:
Yup.

They say they aren't gaslighting and don't see it—and then they call me a lunatic!

Unbelievable!

There appears to be a part of you that feels slighted, feels like you don’t deserve acknowledgment, and it looks like you are projecting this onto a perceived slight of Curry? Am I wrong?
What does this part of you really want? For Curry to be acknowledged, or does it want to feel acknowledged. Well I acknowledge and appreciate your passion for this topic and your love of basketball, the warriors, and Curry.
I am sorry people are calling you a lunatic. That’s not true. Just a very passionate fan.

I still take issue of you using the term gaslighting for this situation, but if that’s what it feels like to you then OK.
Cheers

Pretty much my view. Warrior GM is a passionate fan of Curry and GSW, and has every reason to be, just as LeBron fans have every reason to be enthusiastic about him, and I don’t believe the recent Olympics have provided any reason for he or they to change their opinions.

I wouldn’t apply the term gaslighting myself to a preference for another great basketball player over the one you most revere, but calling Warrior GM a troll for his view can’t be justified either as you are more or less saying.

As a biased GSW fan my view is that at their respective peaks you could build a better team around Curry while LeBron was excellent at more aspects of basketball, pretty much all aspects of course. Again as a GSW fan I will happily take the 4 titles won by my team and the 2017 team being in the conversation for the best ever over a title or two and my team subsequently cratering, but if you ask me in a decade and GSW have catered for a decade as doesn’t seem entirely unlikely just now my view may alter, although not of Curry. I will however always have nigh on a decade of great memories.

Did I ever suggest the OP was a troll?
I just took issue with calling a different opinion “gaslighting” because gaslighting is a serious and toxic behavior…just having a different opinion about a basketball player is not that. It was also sad to see the OP actually gaslighting people in some of his responses.
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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#268 » by michaelm » Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:08 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
michaelm wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:There appears to be a part of you that feels slighted, feels like you don’t deserve acknowledgment, and it looks like you are projecting this onto a perceived slight of Curry? Am I wrong?
What does this part of you really want? For Curry to be acknowledged, or does it want to feel acknowledged. Well I acknowledge and appreciate your passion for this topic and your love of basketball, the warriors, and Curry.
I am sorry people are calling you a lunatic. That’s not true. Just a very passionate fan.

I still take issue of you using the term gaslighting for this situation, but if that’s what it feels like to you then OK.
Cheers

Pretty much my view. Warrior GM is a passionate fan of Curry and GSW, and has every reason to be, just as LeBron fans have every reason to be enthusiastic about him, and I don’t believe the recent Olympics have provided any reason for he or they to change their opinions.

I wouldn’t apply the term gaslighting myself to a preference for another great basketball player over the one you most revere, but calling Warrior GM a troll for his view can’t be justified either as you are more or less saying.

As a biased GSW fan my view is that at their respective peaks you could build a better team around Curry while LeBron was excellent at more aspects of basketball, pretty much all aspects of course. Again as a GSW fan I will happily take the 4 titles won by my team and the 2017 team being in the conversation for the best ever over a title or two and my team subsequently cratering, but if you ask me in a decade and GSW have catered for a decade as doesn’t seem entirely unlikely just now my view may alter, although not of Curry. I will however always have nigh on a decade of great memories.

Did I ever suggest the OP was a troll?
I just took issue with calling a different opinion “gaslighting” because gaslighting is a serious and toxic behavior…just having a different opinion about a basketball player is not that. It was also sad to see the OP actually gaslighting people in some of his responses.

Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I didn’t mean to imply you called him a troll, but he did say someone else had called him a troll over the course of the thread. I intended to pretty much entirely agree with you, including that gaslighting was not a relevant term to this context.

As an habitue of the GSW forum I didn’t feel any need to read this whole thread to find out what Warrior GM might have to say, but you are correct he is a genuine passionate Curry fan, and not a troll which I had thought was part of your point.
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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#269 » by Iwasawitness » Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:33 pm

michaelm wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
michaelm wrote:Pretty much my view. Warrior GM is a passionate fan of Curry and GSW, and has every reason to be, just as LeBron fans have every reason to be enthusiastic about him, and I don’t believe the recent Olympics have provided any reason for he or they to change their opinions.

I wouldn’t apply the term gaslighting myself to a preference for another great basketball player over the one you most revere, but calling Warrior GM a troll for his view can’t be justified either as you are more or less saying.

As a biased GSW fan my view is that at their respective peaks you could build a better team around Curry while LeBron was excellent at more aspects of basketball, pretty much all aspects of course. Again as a GSW fan I will happily take the 4 titles won by my team and the 2017 team being in the conversation for the best ever over a title or two and my team subsequently cratering, but if you ask me in a decade and GSW have catered for a decade as doesn’t seem entirely unlikely just now my view may alter, although not of Curry. I will however always have nigh on a decade of great memories.

Did I ever suggest the OP was a troll?
I just took issue with calling a different opinion “gaslighting” because gaslighting is a serious and toxic behavior…just having a different opinion about a basketball player is not that. It was also sad to see the OP actually gaslighting people in some of his responses.

Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I didn’t mean to imply you called him a troll, but he did say someone else had called him a troll over the course of the thread. I intended to pretty much entirely agree with you, including that gaslighting was not a relevant term to this context.

As an habitue of the GSW forum I didn’t feel any need to read this whole thread to find out what Warrior GM might have to say, but you are correct he is a genuine passionate Curry fan, and not a troll which I had thought was part of your point.


Nah, he’s definitely a troll.
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Post#270 » by michaelm » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:28 am

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brackdan70 wrote:Did I ever suggest the OP was a troll?
I just took issue with calling a different opinion “gaslighting” because gaslighting is a serious and toxic behavior…just having a different opinion about a basketball player is not that. It was also sad to see the OP actually gaslighting people in some of his responses.

Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I didn’t mean to imply you called him a troll, but he did say someone else had called him a troll over the course of the thread. I intended to pretty much entirely agree with you, including that gaslighting was not a relevant term to this context.

As an habitue of the GSW forum I didn’t feel any need to read this whole thread to find out what Warrior GM might have to say, but you are correct he is a genuine passionate Curry fan, and not a troll which I had thought was part of your point.


Nah, he’s definitely a troll.

He has been on the GSW board for years and his attitude towards Curry is consistent while considered extreme even on a board mainly comprised of rabid Curry fans.

I agree with the poster to whom i replied however, he is a passionate Curry fan rather than a troll. Curry is widely appreciated so to say he is a victim of gaslighting or to use that term in regard to a player preference is over the top imo as well, but if a fan wants to prefer him to LeBron he is entitled to do so also imo, even in the current context it is not as though Curry’s contribution to winning the Olympic gold medal was negligible in comparison to LeBron’s.
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Post#271 » by jfs1000d » Thu Aug 15, 2024 2:41 am

Gaslighting?

WTF?


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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#272 » by WarriorGM » Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:40 am

michaelm wrote:
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michaelm wrote:Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I didn’t mean to imply you called him a troll, but he did say someone else had called him a troll over the course of the thread. I intended to pretty much entirely agree with you, including that gaslighting was not a relevant term to this context.

As an habitue of the GSW forum I didn’t feel any need to read this whole thread to find out what Warrior GM might have to say, but you are correct he is a genuine passionate Curry fan, and not a troll which I had thought was part of your point.


Nah, he’s definitely a troll.

He has been on the GSW board for years and his attitude towards Curry is consistent while considered extreme even on a board mainly comprised of rabid Curry fans.

I agree with the poster to whom i replied however, he is a passionate Curry fan rather than a troll. Curry is widely appreciated so to say he is a victim of gaslighting or to use that term in regard to a player preference is over the top imo as well, but if a fan wants to prefer him to LeBron he is entitled to do so also imo, even in the current context it is not as though Curry’s contribution to winning the Olympic gold medal was negligible in comparison to LeBron’s.


Dear michaelm I am not "extreme;" I am "correct." As you well know—and to bring up to speed those of you who don't— It is true that comments I made circa 2021 incited a lot of tut-tutting on the Warriors board and made me kind of notorious even there. But happily 2022 happened—and wonder of wonders—I haven't really experienced that much approbation from Warriors board fans since. I'd like to think it's because Warriors fans are really nice guys at heart and they eventually realized they were being unfair to me but it probably doesn't hurt that they also know I can wield a fairly hefty "I told you so" cudgel if need be.

Now please excuse me while I pop out for a bit to consult my magic 8 ball.

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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#273 » by Onlytimewilltel » Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:52 am

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Nah, he’s definitely a troll.

He has been on the GSW board for years and his attitude towards Curry is consistent while considered extreme even on a board mainly comprised of rabid Curry fans.

I agree with the poster to whom i replied however, he is a passionate Curry fan rather than a troll. Curry is widely appreciated so to say he is a victim of gaslighting or to use that term in regard to a player preference is over the top imo as well, but if a fan wants to prefer him to LeBron he is entitled to do so also imo, even in the current context it is not as though Curry’s contribution to winning the Olympic gold medal was negligible in comparison to LeBron’s.


Dear michaelm I am not "extreme;" I am "correct." As you well know—and to bring up to speed those of you who don't— It is true that comments I made circa 2021 incited a lot of tut-tutting on the Warriors board and made me kind of notorious even there. But happily 2022 happened—and wonder of wonders—I haven't really experienced that much approbation from Warriors board fans since. I'd like to think it's because Warriors fans are really nice guys at heart and they eventually realized they were being unfair to me but it probably doesn't hurt that they also know I can wield a fairly hefty "I told you so" cudgel if need be.

Now please excuse me while I pop out for a bit to consult my magic 8 ball.

Regards.


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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#274 » by Kawaii Leonard » Thu Aug 15, 2024 1:47 pm

michaelm wrote:
Iwasawitness wrote:
michaelm wrote:Sorry if I wasn’t clear, I didn’t mean to imply you called him a troll, but he did say someone else had called him a troll over the course of the thread. I intended to pretty much entirely agree with you, including that gaslighting was not a relevant term to this context.

As an habitue of the GSW forum I didn’t feel any need to read this whole thread to find out what Warrior GM might have to say, but you are correct he is a genuine passionate Curry fan, and not a troll which I had thought was part of your point.


Nah, he’s definitely a troll.

He has been on the GSW board for years and his attitude towards Curry is consistent while considered extreme even on a board mainly comprised of rabid Curry fans.

I agree with the poster to whom i replied however, he is a passionate Curry fan rather than a troll. Curry is widely appreciated so to say he is a victim of gaslighting or to use that term in regard to a player preference is over the top imo as well, but if a fan wants to prefer him to LeBron he is entitled to do so also imo, even in the current context it is not as though Curry’s contribution to winning the Olympic gold medal was negligible in comparison to LeBron’s.


Lol good one. He literally just proved you wrong.
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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#275 » by WarriorGM » Thu Aug 15, 2024 7:55 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:yes everything is always about the player on your favorite team. And any time they don;t get every single flower its a coordinated gaslighting hit job.

I mean imagine coming through that dynasty and still being this insecure. I can imagine the OP being a fan of the Russell Celtics and writing diatribes about the 2 titles they didn't win and how it was a giant conspiracy.

Steph is amazing. So is Lebron. Sometimes the guy on your team shares an era with another great player. My boy Dirk had to come through with Timmy and Kobe and Shaq and Lebron and KD and..... Doesn't make Dirk any less great that some other guys got their shine too.


I didn't watch the 2011 Finals but from the discussions I see it wasn't Dirk that was important it was Jason Terry. Terry went toe-to-toe with LeBron is the story I hear. That's my impression anyway. Sorry if Dirk doesn't sound so hot. It's not as if he has that much else to fall back upon if this accomplishment is worn down and washed away over time.
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Re: Steph Curry and the Gaslighting Campaign Against Him 

Post#276 » by Texas Chuck » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:33 am

JET is a great dude. Dirk can share credit with he and the boys. Team game.

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