Wembanyama, I'm concerned (Part 2)
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Hakeem has ruined the league for years to come. What have you done?
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I've seen random games of Wemby in the last few years, and I saw the game against Dallas yesterday. He really made a big step ahead. He looks so much stronger and balanced. Everything he does seems to be with more poise and purpose. And he did 40/15/3 in 30 minutes against great defense from AD and Lively, who got in foul trouble and had nothing on him. Impressive. Unbelievably impressive. I'm eager to see how helpless teams with lesser size will look like, and if he will showcase killer mentality there.
I actually agree with KG on this one.
Except that I would tweak the comparison to "Orlando Shaq + KD". He's definitely not as strong as Lakers Shaq, but he's Orlando Shaq with KD's shooting ability and Dikembe Mutombo's defense.
The sky is the limit for this young man. If he continues to play at this level, he's could be MVP and MIP.
On the Spurs team: they are legit good. They will be top-4 in the West. And I limit myself to 4 because OKC, Denver, Houston and Dallas (with Kyrie) are legit contenders with more experience. But I can see the Spurs already sneak into top-4 this year.
I actually agree with KG on this one.
Except that I would tweak the comparison to "Orlando Shaq + KD". He's definitely not as strong as Lakers Shaq, but he's Orlando Shaq with KD's shooting ability and Dikembe Mutombo's defense.
The sky is the limit for this young man. If he continues to play at this level, he's could be MVP and MIP.
On the Spurs team: they are legit good. They will be top-4 in the West. And I limit myself to 4 because OKC, Denver, Houston and Dallas (with Kyrie) are legit contenders with more experience. But I can see the Spurs already sneak into top-4 this year.
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WestGOAT wrote:This is the Wemby everyone was pushing for, no 3-point shooting woke nonsense, but being aggressive instead of settling for fadeaway 3-pters. Finally!zimpy27 wrote:I'm concerned.
I'm concerned that the Spurs haven't built a better team around this guy yet. He's ready to lead a playoff run now and not sure if they will have him at this level after his 8 years locked in as a Spur.
It might become another tragedy as we've seen before with Garnett and LeBron.
There seems like there is absolute no vision when building around Wemby. All the complementary pieces around him have so far shown they are in fact not complementary at all.
I think Castle and Harper are good additions but young and not on Wemby's timeline.
Maybe they were waiting for this season. Maybe some moves happen midseason.
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Big_Aristotle wrote:I've seen random games of Wemby in the last few years, and I saw the game against Dallas yesterday. He really made a big step ahead. He looks so much stronger and balanced. Everything he does seems to be with more poise and purpose. And he did 40/15/3 in 30 minutes against great defense from AD and Lively, who got in foul trouble and had nothing on him. Impressive. Unbelievably impressive. I'm eager to see how helpless teams with lesser size will look like, and if he will showcase killer mentality there.
I actually agree with KG on this one.
Except that I would tweak the comparison to "Orlando Shaq + KD". He's definitely not as strong as Lakers Shaq, but he's Orlando Shaq with KD's shooting ability and Dikembe Mutombo's defense.
The sky is the limit for this young man. If he continues to play at this level, he's could be MVP and MIP.
On the Spurs team: they are legit good. They will be top-4 in the West. And I limit myself to 4 because OKC, Denver, Houston and Dallas (with Kyrie) are legit contenders with more experience. But I can see the Spurs already sneak into top-4 this year.
Orlando Shaq was 303 lbs with a 36-inch max vertical jump coming into the NBA. Wemby's not even close to that; he's 240-245 and jumps lower. The strength comparison just isn't there. The style of play is completely different. Giannis is a better mention on that front. Secondly, we don't have a strong enough sample yet to say he's KD-like as a shooter. The jury is still out on that.
Last night, he played (on offense) like a 7'5" mix of Giannis & OKC Durant.
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Marvin Martian wrote:Rust_Cohle wrote:Marvin Martian wrote:Subtract Wemby, and their young core doesn't look at that impressive. Castle is good but can't shoot which caps his ceiling as a player. Harper is unproven but has the worst archetype in the game right now. Sochan can't shoot. Am I missing anyone?
Castle is fantastic, did you miss tonight’s game? Carter Bryant has a ton defensive potential, Harper looked great tonight, not even sure wtf you’re on about worst archetype when he plays like a 27 year old with his foot work and is incredible going downhill to the rim.
You don’t watch much Spurs and that’s cool, this team will be a title contender within 2 years.
No I didn't. Castle still can't shoot and went 50% from the line. Did you miss tonight's game?
Harper scored 12 points, but you're making it seem like he scored 32.
The team will be a title contender, but Wemby will be doing most of the heavy lifting there.
A rookie had 12 points, how did Flagg do? Is he a let down then since his debut didn’t have 40?
Castle shot 67% from the floor…for a guard. Kawhi could barely shoot when he started either. Castle has good form on his shot, he’ll be fine. This is year 3 and people are complaining about the team around Wemby. Spurs are stacked with young talent and may have their best team in 8 years. Of course wemby is a big a part of it but I hope you’re sitting down for this. MJ, LeBron, Duncan, Jokic were all very big parts of why their teams were successful. But getting hung up on a second year player who can’t shoot is pretty stupid. I’m far more intrigued at a second year player already being elite at getting to the rim and drawing fouls at such a young age. Harper is another with superb footwork at getting to the rim and he’s just 19. If castle was in year 5 and still can’t shoot, sure. But my god man, it’s year 2 and people are still complaining
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CIN-C-STAR wrote:Rust_Cohle wrote:Coach Carter wrote:
This. Dudes this tall last around 10 years. They need to be aggressive now.
They win by 32 points. Potential for 3 straight ROTY. Not sure what you guys are smoking here. The trajectory is fantastic, strong improvement YOY.
The Spurs roster was a complete joke when they got Wemby, and has already improved substantially.
And our highest paid player wasn't even on the floor tonight.
These guys don't know wtf they're talking about.
Of all the nights to nitpick the roster they choose this one, which was probably one of the best team showings we have had in years.
Apparently the junk team we had to even be able to draft wemby 3 years should have all been flipped for all nba players. People praise the Bulls front office when they had Krause and yet it took MJ 7 years to win his first title. Wemby could be in a good position to win his first one sooner.
I guess 2003 spurs front office was junk since Duncan was too big a part of that success.
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WestGOAT wrote:It might become another tragedy as we've seen before with Garnett and LeBron.
There seems like there is absolute no vision when building around Wemby. All the complementary pieces around him have so far shown they are in fact not complementary at all.
1) Spurs will be super legit this year already, they have star power, depth, defense, shooters, and ballhandlers.
2) Spurs have pretty great situation assets- and talent-wise for the future as both Castle and Harper looks better than we expected, really, based on preseason and this first game.
They're just in funny position long term with Fox - but Spurs didn't invest that much in him, so they'll be fine.
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I’m concerned for whoever the poor schmuck is that has to guard him.
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I just watched the clip... it was so jaw-dropping, I think I injured my jaw.
How is that not taking over the league? Most dominant performance I've ever seen by a single player.
He made the Mavs look like a middle school team.
How is that not taking over the league? Most dominant performance I've ever seen by a single player.
He made the Mavs look like a middle school team.
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He’s must see TV. If he maintains this force every night it’s curtains for the league.

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RSP83 wrote:He made the Mavs look like a middle school team.
I've never seen AD dominated like that. He got CRUSHED.
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Is anyone not that impressed by Wembanyama? I think he's unfair but watching him play bores me.
When I see him do something crazy on court. I just think it looks too easy for him to find it impressive
When I see him do something crazy on court. I just think it looks too easy for him to find it impressive
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Ice Man wrote:RSP83 wrote:He made the Mavs look like a middle school team.
I've never seen AD dominated like that. He got CRUSHED.
Absolutely. AD got SONNED.
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RSP83 wrote:Absolutely. AD got SONNED.
Cooper was an awed rookie. AD was an awed Hall of Famer.
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Living walking cheat code. AD was humbled. His presence on both ends is undeniable
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How do some of you all function in the real world when you can’t even read a proper box score correctly? Dylan Harper had 15 points now 12.
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zimpy27 wrote:WestGOAT wrote:This is the Wemby everyone was pushing for, no 3-point shooting woke nonsense, but being aggressive instead of settling for fadeaway 3-pters. Finally!zimpy27 wrote:I'm concerned.
I'm concerned that the Spurs haven't built a better team around this guy yet. He's ready to lead a playoff run now and not sure if they will have him at this level after his 8 years locked in as a Spur.
It might become another tragedy as we've seen before with Garnett and LeBron.
There seems like there is absolute no vision when building around Wemby. All the complementary pieces around him have so far shown they are in fact not complementary at all.
I think Castle and Harper are good additions but young and not on Wemby's timeline.
Maybe they were waiting for this season. Maybe some moves happen midseason.
They're not on his timeline? Castle is like a year younger and Harper is only two. Wemby is 21
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dmespurs wrote:How do some of you all function in the real world when you can’t even read a proper box score correctly? Dylan Harper had 15 points now 12.
On 50% shooting. Led the bench in scoring. He'll be fine.
Woke up still thinking about Wemby's debut. Incredible.



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I am not concerned.
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sashaturiaf wrote:Is anyone not that impressed by Wembanyama? I think he's unfair but watching him play bores me.
When I see him do something crazy on court. I just think it looks too easy for him to find it impressive
Just you. He’s a once-in-a-lifetime athlete









