Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team

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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#261 » by Wingy » Sat May 24, 2025 5:04 am

I won’t be surprised if Giannis stays put. Some people are more secure than others. They don’t need to spend their entire professional existence chasing a ghost they can never catch.

It’s sad how that behavior has become the expectation and Giannis is somehow weird for not falling into the trap.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#262 » by Packbuckman » Sat May 24, 2025 5:49 am

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RRyder823 wrote:So news comes out Giannis didn't request a trade and now we got posters hitting the copepium hard i see

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You are aware that your team is going nowhere with Lillard tearing his Achilles? Why dont you want to see your guy compete and win?

No bucks fan wants to see Giannis leave ever we don’t care if his value goes down as he ages he should be a buck for his whole career. Are you watching the pacers kicking ass these playoffs Giannis plus shooters can compete just fine going forward. He is not like these ring chasing players and leave when times get tough.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#263 » by Dan Z » Sat May 24, 2025 6:22 am

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Bornstellar wrote:I'm glad Giannis didn't ask out if true. While I'd love him as a Spur the cost is too high and it was unlikely the Spurs would pay it so if he did get traded it'd be to the Rockets or the Thunder and that would be terrible. So with that in mind, him staying put is the best outcome


What do you think OKC should offer Milwaukee for Giannis?

OKC has all their own picks plus these:

2026: Best two out of Houston, OKC and Clippers (Clippers is protected 1-4). Washington gets the least favorite of those three.
2026 Philly pick (protected 1-4)
2026 Utah pick (protected 1-8)

2027 Denver pick (protected 1-5 through 2029)

2029 Denver pick (protected 1-5 through 2030)

Plus a bunch of 2nd round picks.


Those are all late picks. Unless the Bucks think they can create a superteam out of 3 or 4 or 5 20-30 picks you decline. If the number 1 or 2 pick is offered you listen. Picks in the 20s give you role players if you are lucky. You need someone who was an all-star or young enough and on a path to becoming one.


When I looked up the picks that OKC has I was surprised that they didn't look that great (but are still good to have).
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#264 » by KGtabake » Sat May 24, 2025 7:22 am

I want to see him elsewhere, i want to see him win because he's the best player in the world.
But if he wants to stay there and fight, i respect that.
Maybe he prefers the Dirk way.
As long as he's happy, all good.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#265 » by th87 » Sat May 24, 2025 8:10 am

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Im not quite sure how reliable this is but **** it I've seen more then enough "he gone" tweets not to give a ****
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if it's true then he'll play out the rest of his career, potentially a decade, being irrelevant. Even if the Bucks had their draft picks their G.M. is a horrible drafter. But they don't. So there's really no way to improve this team enough to ever have them competing for championships ever again. But hey, it's Giannis' career. If he's happy that's all that matters. It certainly won't help his legacy though.


Just because you guys traded your superstar to watch him possibly win a title doesn't mean we should.

His legacy isn't defined by what the casuals' standards are, which is to force himself onto a superteam so he can take the easy road to titles. I'd hope he's a deeper person than LeBron or Durant.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#266 » by th87 » Sat May 24, 2025 8:12 am

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RRyder823 wrote:So news comes out Giannis didn't request a trade and now we got posters hitting the copepium hard i see

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You are aware that your team is going nowhere with Lillard tearing his Achilles? Why dont you want to see your guy compete and win?


Because f casuals. F shortcut culture. And f Adam Silver.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#267 » by basketballRob » Sat May 24, 2025 1:45 pm

Next season, the trade market will be better for him. More teams will have cap room.

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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#268 » by Mi Scusi » Sat May 24, 2025 1:50 pm

Should keep Gianni’s at all costs. Need to make some smart trades, FA signings to retool the team. No reason they shouldn’t be able to compete next year in the east.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#269 » by Bernman » Sat May 24, 2025 1:56 pm

Many fell for the corporate propaganda again, then didn't handle it well belied their expectations.

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:if it's true then he'll play out the rest of his career, potentially a decade, being irrelevant. Even if the Bucks had their draft picks their G.M. is a horrible drafter. But they don't. So there's really no way to improve this team enough to ever have them competing for championships ever again. But hey, it's Giannis' career. If he's happy that's all that matters. It certainly won't help his legacy though.


You'd know. Sacramento are the kings of irrelevance.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#270 » by RRyder823 » Sat May 24, 2025 4:00 pm

Alatan wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
Alatan wrote:
You are aware that your team is going nowhere with Lillard tearing his Achilles? Why dont you want to see your guy compete and win?
Because im a Bucks fan. Yes i love Giannis but good **** lord if I have to explain it further.......

But anyways continue taking that copium. It's a hell of drug

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Your team is cooked bro. With or without Giannis.
And yet.... Still with Giannis on it

Keep on hitting the copium

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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#271 » by Blame Rasho » Sat May 24, 2025 4:08 pm

I honestly don’t know how the bucks improved their roster with their assets. I love Giannis, he is a mofo…and hope that he can have success instead of first round and outs going forward in his career.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#272 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 24, 2025 4:15 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:I honestly don’t know how the bucks improved their roster with their assets. I love Giannis, he is a mofo…and hope that he can have success instead of first round and outs going forward in his career.


Same. I still think for the best long-term solution for all parties is a trade. They’ll never get better return for Giannis than right now, value will only go down as he gets older. That said, I also can’t blame them for not wanting to move him if he’s not asking out. Even with insane return, there’s no guarantee you get another player of his caliber.

That said, the Bucks are really stuck in terms of how to improve the team.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#273 » by Tor_Raps » Sat May 24, 2025 5:21 pm

Wingy wrote:I won’t be surprised if Giannis stays put. Some people are more secure than others. They don’t need to spend their entire professional existence chasing a ghost they can never catch.

It’s sad how that behavior has become the expectation and Giannis is somehow weird for not falling into the trap.


Except it's Giannis himself who has said many times that he could leave the Bucks if he doesn't see winning there as an option...
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#274 » by Zeno » Sat May 24, 2025 6:47 pm

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Wingy wrote:I won’t be surprised if Giannis stays put. Some people are more secure than others. They don’t need to spend their entire professional existence chasing a ghost they can never catch.

It’s sad how that behavior has become the expectation and Giannis is somehow weird for not falling into the trap.


Except it's Giannis himself who has said many times that he could leave the Bucks if he doesn't see winning there as an option...

He said that he wants the focus to be on winning not necessarily that they have to have the optimal roster every year. I think people take that and expand it to mean he will want to leave because people lack imagination generally. His comments have always been about the team’s intentions toward winning as opposed to rebuilding.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#275 » by JimmyPlopper » Sat May 24, 2025 6:50 pm

I hope he stays and they figure out a way to rebuild around him. It won't be easy with Kuzma and Lillard on the books with the latter being injured. They just need a little creativity
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#276 » by Pointgod » Sat May 24, 2025 7:07 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:I honestly don’t know how the bucks improved their roster with their assets. I love Giannis, he is a mofo…and hope that he can have success instead of first round and outs going forward in his career.


Well after next season the Bucks have 80 million in expiring contracts between Kuzma and Lillard. They have either their pick or New Orleans pick next year and will also unlock their 31 and 33 picks. I this year is pretty much just gap year where they could just bring everyone back on 1 year contracts and play it out. It seems like Giannis surrounded by a bunch of 3 and D players is at least good enough to keep you in the first round this year.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#277 » by Sixers in 4 » Sat May 24, 2025 7:07 pm

Wanting to improve your roster and being able to do so are two different things. Giannis wants to win and the Bucks can't build a winning roster with what they have.

It's a ticking time bomb the only question is when it finally goes off
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#278 » by Tor_Raps » Sat May 24, 2025 7:33 pm

Zeno wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Wingy wrote:I won’t be surprised if Giannis stays put. Some people are more secure than others. They don’t need to spend their entire professional existence chasing a ghost they can never catch.

It’s sad how that behavior has become the expectation and Giannis is somehow weird for not falling into the trap.


Except it's Giannis himself who has said many times that he could leave the Bucks if he doesn't see winning there as an option...

He said that he wants the focus to be on winning not necessarily that they have to have the optimal roster every year. I think people take that and expand it to mean he will want to leave because people lack imagination generally. His comments have always been about the team’s intentions toward winning as opposed to rebuilding.


What pathways do the Bucks have contending with an aging roster, no picks and their 2nd best player about to miss a full year with a career killing injury?

They weren't even good enough when completely healthy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize theyre toast for true contention for the next several years.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#279 » by TeamTragic » Sat May 24, 2025 7:48 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
Zeno wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Except it's Giannis himself who has said many times that he could leave the Bucks if he doesn't see winning there as an option...

He said that he wants the focus to be on winning not necessarily that they have to have the optimal roster every year. I think people take that and expand it to mean he will want to leave because people lack imagination generally. His comments have always been about the team’s intentions toward winning as opposed to rebuilding.


What pathways do the Bucks have contending with an aging roster, no picks and their 2nd best player about to miss a full year from a career killing injury?

They weren't even good enough when completely healthy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize theyre toast for true contention for the next several years.


Hopes and dreams.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#280 » by Zeno » Sat May 24, 2025 9:07 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:
Zeno wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
Except it's Giannis himself who has said many times that he could leave the Bucks if he doesn't see winning there as an option...

He said that he wants the focus to be on winning not necessarily that they have to have the optimal roster every year. I think people take that and expand it to mean he will want to leave because people lack imagination generally. His comments have always been about the team’s intentions toward winning as opposed to rebuilding.


What pathways do the Bucks have contending with an aging roster, no picks and their 2nd best player about to miss a full year with a career killing injury?

They weren't even good enough when completely healthy. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize theyre toast for true contention for the next several years.

It is not that I think the Bucks can build a contender around Giannis given the current situation. I agree that seems highly unlikely. I'm just pointing out that Giannis has only said that he wants to see a commitment to winning. A commitment to winning does not equally actually winning. It is possible that Giannis is willing to accept the realities of the Bucks situation as long as the little flexibility they have is invested into helping the current roster win now, whether that will be effective or not.
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