So…Giannis is Definitely Going to Demand a Trade Right?

[3ddman23]

Trade destination power rankings:

1 - Atlanta
2 - OKC
3 - Houston
4 - San Antonio
5 - Miami

Those are the only teams the Bucks should be talking to.

All those teams I understand except for Miami. What does Miami really have to offer aside from picks? Picks that would all be in the 20s once giannis is there. Are they give up ware? Are they giving up bam? I guess herro would go but I don't see much they have to offer, if ware isn't in the deal.

[Anderson Hunt]

Giannis, Kuzma, and Thanasis
for
Anunoby, Bridges, McBride, and Robinson

[ReasonablySober]

Trade destination power rankings:

1 - Atlanta
2 - OKC
3 - Houston
4 - San Antonio
5 - Miami

Those are the only teams the Bucks should be talking to.

All those teams I understand except for Miami. What does Miami really have to offer aside from picks? Picks that would all be in the 20s once giannis is there. Are they give up ware? Are they giving up bam? I guess herro would go but I don't see much they have to offer, if ware isn't in the deal.

I only included Miami because of Ware. But they're well behind what the other four team could offer.

[Snakebites]

Giannis, Kuzma, and Thanasis
for
Anunoby, Bridges, McBride, and Robinson

If he's going to the Knicks it will most likely be a multi-team trade. The supporting pieces the Knicks have to offer aren't necessarily valuable enough to the Bucks- they need to build up their draft capital if they're losing Giannis.

[BigGargamel]

Congrats Windbag and Shams. You finally wore everyone down and got your wish. Time to talk about it for 23 hours a day now, only taking a break to mention the Lakers.

This situation sucks all around. Giannis should have been a lifer. It's on him as much as the Bucks front office. Both blew it. Don't let your superstar become a GM, it never works out.

[Anderson Hunt]

Giannis, Kuzma, and Thanasis
for
Anunoby, Bridges, McBride, and Robinson

If he's going to the Knicks it will most likely be a multi-team trade. The supporting pieces the Knicks have to offer aren't necessarily valuable enough to the Bucks- they need to build up their draft capital if they're losing Giannis.

I don't disagree, however there's an argument that could be made that Bridges and Anunoby's value will go up with expanded offensive roles.

Maybe it would be smart to take on the two most preeminent 3&D guys in the league and add to their value by showcasing them, then trade them for picks later.

It worked for Brooklyn. Bridges value went through the roof when he was showcased. I think it would work again, especially on Milwaukee where I think the team will be quietly good.

[Snakebites]

Giannis, Kuzma, and Thanasis
for
Anunoby, Bridges, McBride, and Robinson

If he's going to the Knicks it will most likely be a multi-team trade. The supporting pieces the Knicks have to offer aren't necessarily valuable enough to the Bucks- they need to build up their draft capital if they're losing Giannis.

I don't disagree, however there's an argument that could be made that Bridges and Anunoby's value will go up with expanded offensive roles.

Maybe it would be smart to take on the two most preeminent 3&D guys in the league and add to their value by showcasing them, then trade them for picks later.

It worked for Brooklyn. Bridges value went through the roof when he was showcased. I think it would work again, especially on Milwaukee where I think the team will be quietly good.

It's possible.

I just have a real hard time imaginging Giannis being traded without picks coming back. Yeah, Bridges was a centerpiece when the Nets traded Durant to the Suns, and they certainly benefitted from increased value on Bridges afterwards, but they ALSO got a bunch of picks in the KD trade itself.

Do we really think it would be hard to flip OG and/or Bridges to third/fourth teams for picks?

[Mamba Mentality]

no way Luka would have reupped with the Bucks

You don’t know that.

Yeah, the Euro stars are different from the Americans. They don't insist on going to the biggest markets.

Their loyalty starts and ends with the team that drafts them. Anything after that is a pure business move that is motivated by winning. Bucks have proven they don't have what it takes to do that.

[Matches Malone]

Where are all those bucks fans that harass people for even insinuating this might be happening?

You have to understand, Bucks fans have had to hear about these "trade rumors" for almost a decade now. It's been hot air every year and now that it's suddenly an option all these years later, people want to take victory laps.

[Anderson Hunt]

Trade destination power rankings:

1 - Atlanta
2 - OKC
3 - Houston
4 - San Antonio
5 - Miami

Those are the only teams the Bucks should be talking to.

Doesn't Giannis have a say in this? With the contract about to expire, he pretty much can tell Milwaukee where to send him, which is why I think he's going to the Knicks with his brother Thanasis and Kuzma for Anunoby, Bridges, McBride, and Robinson.

That's not a bad haul for Milwaukee, all things considered.

[LikeABosh]

You don’t know that.

Yeah, the Euro stars are different from the Americans. They don't insist on going to the biggest markets.

Their loyalty starts and ends with the team that drafts them. Anything after that is a pure business move that is motivated by winning. Bucks have proven they don't have what it takes to do that.

Bucks have won a title more recently than the Lakers but okay

[ReasonablySober]

Trade destination power rankings:

1 - Atlanta
2 - OKC
3 - Houston
4 - San Antonio
5 - Miami

Those are the only teams the Bucks should be talking to.

Doesn't Giannis have a say in this? With the contract about to expire, he pretty much can tell Milwaukee where to send him, which is why I think he's going to the Knicks with his brother Thanasis and Kuzma for Anunoby, Bridges, McBride, and Robinson.

That's not a bad haul for Milwaukee, all things considered.

He's got another year and half before it expires.

[Covi_Marsh]

Trade destination power rankings:

1 - Atlanta
2 - OKC
3 - Houston
4 - San Antonio
5 - Miami

Those are the only teams the Bucks should be talking to.

They should talk to San Antonio and Miami but not Sixers who have Edgecombe / Jared McCain or Detroit who have Ivey / Duran?

[Ambrose]

Trade destination power rankings:

1 - Atlanta
2 - OKC
3 - Houston
4 - San Antonio
5 - Miami

Those are the only teams the Bucks should be talking to.

Doesn't Giannis have a say in this? With the contract about to expire, he pretty much can tell Milwaukee where to send him, which is why I think he's going to the Knicks with his brother Thanasis and Kuzma for Anunoby, Bridges, McBride, and Robinson.

That's not a bad haul for Milwaukee, all things considered.

Giannis still has a full 1+1 left on his deal after this year.

[Snakebites]

lol you want a top 3 player in the world without giving up any meaningful?

Laughing doesn't mean anything. No one knows the Cap on this current Pistons team. They have an MVP candidate, 4 extremely young top picks(Ivey/Holland/Ausar/Duren) all of their picks, AND with the 2nd best record in the league. Other teams not named OKC would kill to be in their position.

Pistons don't need to do anything. Thats the point.

Then just don't do anything lol I am saying offering trash for a top 3 player is insulting and greedy.

IF the Pistons were to get involved in Giannis trade scenarios (highly doubtful given they are in the same division as the Bucks), you'd have to figure Duren would be a component going back.

He's not a particularly good fit with Giannis and is having a great season.

The only individual player or asset I'd have as being off limits is Cade, personally. That's just me.

[Mamba Mentality]

Yeah, the Euro stars are different from the Americans. They don't insist on going to the biggest markets.

Their loyalty starts and ends with the team that drafts them. Anything after that is a pure business move that is motivated by winning. Bucks have proven they don't have what it takes to do that.

Bucks have won a title more recently than the Lakers but okay

and they shortly tore it all apart and have been mediocre ever since...

[BigGargamel]

The Bucks aren't just going to give him away, but they aren't going to send Giannis somewhere he doesn't want to go. For all of Giannis faults, he has been extremely loyal to this franchise. They are going to want to keep him happy, so he can be a team ambassador once his career is over. I expect something like the situation where the Wolves traded KG to the Celtics. In fact, both situations seem eerily similar, except Giannis at least won a title for his city. I expect he will finish his career in Milwaukee as well.

It will probably be the Knicks, but they are going to have to re-route players to get draft picks, because pick swaps aren't going to cut it.

[Snakebites]

and they shortly tore it all apart and have been mediocre ever since...

Not every team gets to escape purgatory by being gifted a top 5 player once every 8 years or so.

[Marvin Martian]

Bucks have ZERO objective ways to improve. There was no reason to do that Lillard stuff, to do that Turner stuff. They just continued to feed delusion of being relevant.
Basically, any fan who likes and follows nba for longer period of time, and understands a game, could go through Bucks roster and figure that is complete dumpster fire of a roster, even on East. No starting level PG, no starting level SG, no wing defense, all talent clustered at basically same position.

They can consider themselves lucky because Rollins out of nowhere is playing way better than anybody predicted. But there is simply clear (low ) ceiling for such team.

People promise eternity to each other all the time, until they figure how long it actually is. In Giannis head "riding out with Bucks " sounded way better after winning 48 games and blaming injuries for (another) bad playoffs. But playing next 3-4 years of your prime for literally nothing, as your body declines and you have nothing objective to desire or expect is actually brutal for mental health of somebody who is driven by success. And all superstars, at least top 5 players usually are. His whole " not a loss if you don't win " was always a cope. You play sports to win. And even if you fail, you want to be in position where you can success.

From Bucks POV, what's there to do? They will suck anyway. But as long as he is there they will have to bribe him with idiotic moves, keep his talentless brothers around and continue to feed his delusion of "competitive roster". For crying out loud, they added Kyle Bumzma in hope of fixing something.

They had to do it. Jrue is decent but he couldn't do much offensively and with Middleton being washed, the Bucks needed to make a move

[manlisten]

So basically Shams was right. Again. Exact same scenario we saw play out with Butler in Miami when his agent was trying to discredit Shams. It was pretty obvious in both cases the Shams was right and the parties involved were just frustrated that he got the scoop.