ECSF: P3 | (1) Toronto Raptors vs Cleveland Cavaliers (4) | CLE wins 4-0

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Who wins the series?

Cavs in 4
130
73%
Cavs in 5
13
7%
Cavs in 6
4
2%
Cavs in 7
1
1%
Raptors in 6
2
1%
Raptors in 7
28
16%
 
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Re: ECSF: P3 | (1) Toronto Raptors vs Cleveland Cavaliers (4) | CLE 3-0 

Post#2781 » by anish23 » Tue May 8, 2018 4:02 am

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Overrated isn’t really true.. this team had the second best record in the league. That’s not a fluke. This is them just running into a monster that is lebron And not being able to get past him.

The over reaction is ridiculous


you got swept.


What new information are you providing here? You think i'm not aware of that? I assuming your just attempting to troll, right?


A Number 1 seed gets SWEPT in the second round, and you are saying all of this is "over reaction" ??

Its not.

The team is not good enough, they would have lost to the Pacers as well.
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Post#2782 » by oldschooled » Tue May 8, 2018 4:03 am

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lebron further cements himself as the goat by beating the nr 1 seed in the east as a huge underdog.


lol at the huge underdog part... Cavs opened somewhere at +170 range, close to +130 before game 1. That's not a huge underdog. Celtics are the huge underdog vs Sixers. They were even +120 to win the series when they won game 1. They're still underdog in the series even if they won game 1. Imagine that.
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Re: ECSF: P3 | (1) Toronto Raptors vs Cleveland Cavaliers (4) | CLE wins 4-0 

Post#2783 » by gp2015 » Tue May 8, 2018 4:06 am

Any argument that the Raptors are any good is out the window when you get swept in the second round with 2 blowouts.

Any team worth a damn will not let that happen.
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Post#2784 » by SwaggyB » Tue May 8, 2018 4:08 am

anish23 wrote:
Sisqo wrote:
anish23 wrote:
you got swept.


What new information are you providing here? You think i'm not aware of that? I assuming your just attempting to troll, right?


A Number 1 seed gets SWEPT in the second round, and you are saying all of this is "over reaction" ??

Its not.

The team is not good enough, they would have lost to the Pacers as well.
Nah, raps matched up well against the pacers this year.. So they'd probably beat them in 6 or 7 (they're still the Raptors after all). Pacers matched up well against Lebron. It's like a rock/paper/scissors scenario, just because rock easily beats scissors, doesn't mean paper would have too.

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Post#2785 » by Sisqo » Tue May 8, 2018 4:10 am

anish23 wrote:
Sisqo wrote:
anish23 wrote:
you got swept.


What new information are you providing here? You think i'm not aware of that? I assuming your just attempting to troll, right?


A Number 1 seed gets SWEPT in the second round, and you are saying all of this is "over reaction" ??

Its not.

The team is not good enough, they would have lost to the Pacers as well.



There we go a post with some content. Good job :)

I say its it a over reaction because this team has shown it can be good, really good but they got beat by a superstar and some good role players. A over reaction would be to BLOW UP one of youngest teams in the league.

I'm not saying changes aren't needed but blowing it up is stupid and a over reaction.

I don't understand why people who take the time you post on a basketball forum don't understand matchups matter...

just because indiana won more games against cleveland doesn't mean they beat toronto.
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Post#2786 » by IbakasD » Tue May 8, 2018 4:11 am

Stillwater wrote:Feel sorry for Raptors fans I expect they will have to do something significant this summer they have the pieces to move for Leonard unless another team with more draft assets presents a better offer so maybe that's in the cards for them.

Please stop. Who do we have. JV and Aldridge will be a terrible fit in the starting lineup. They have dejonte murray as their future staring point guard. They don't have any need for JV, delon, norm, potel. Siakam, and OG aren't star prospects. We don't have any valuable first round picks to trade. Where is there a common ground for a deal?? We have to include JV, Og, siakam, unprotected future first round picks, and prolly delon to even get talks starred, and Masai will never do
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Post#2787 » by jonjames » Tue May 8, 2018 4:12 am

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jonjames wrote: It doesn't matter what Lebron does in this series.


That’s literally all that matters. Lebron is the reason those role players are successful. He is everything.
Love this new Celtics team, but whether we admit it or not, they have beautifully taken advantage of a young and inexperienced sixers team.
Things will be a lot harder for both teams in the ecf. Similar to the first round.


Wrong. Lebron put up 34.4 ppg / 10 rpg / 7.7 apg on 55% FG% and 65% TS% and yet his team was taken to 7 against Indiana and in Cleveland's 4 wins they put up an average point differential of +3.5. His supporting cast on the other hand struggled against Indy hence the 7 game slugfest as opposed to the 4 game sweep of Toronto.

Love: 11 ppg / 9.3 rpg / 1 apg / 33% FG% / 45% TS%
JR: 8 ppg/3 rpg/1 apg/32% FG%/44% TS%
Korver: 8 ppg/2 rpg/1 apg/37% FG%/59% TS%
Green: 5 ppg/2 rpg/1 apg/34% FG%/45% TS%
Hill: 9 ppg/2 rpg/2 apg/52% FG%/67% TS%

Korver, Hill and Nance stepped it up and that's how they were able to win. Now against Toronto otoh...

Love: 19/13/2/43% FG%/54% TS%
JR: 11/1/1/52% FG%/74% TS%
Korver: 14/2/1/53% FG%/72% TS%
Green: 13/1/2/58% FG%/69% TS%
Hill: 9/1/2/50% FG%/59% TS%

The difference is night and day. It literally doesn't matter what Lebron does against Boston. He's gonna get his regardless. It's what his supporting cast does against the Boston D that will decide the series. And of course Boston has to keep playing well offensively which I'm sure they'll do against Cleveland. Cleveland's defense has been bad this postseason ranked 11th with a defensive rating of 112.3. The series between Boston and Cleveland is going to be very interesting indeed!
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Post#2788 » by dukes_wild » Tue May 8, 2018 4:12 am

Raptors still had a very good season. Many fans would kill for the year they had, it just ended terribly.
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Post#2789 » by Just_Bullz » Tue May 8, 2018 4:12 am

Really disappointing for the raptors given how they have improved in the regular season, I thought this could be their year to shine.

Perhaps they are really the great pretenders. Needa revamp the whole team.
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Post#2790 » by Mind_Odyssey » Tue May 8, 2018 4:13 am

Every year a team in the east is supposed to beat Lebron. The man simply doesn’t care about the regular season.

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Post#2791 » by Hindenburg » Tue May 8, 2018 4:13 am

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lebron further cements himself as the goat by beating the nr 1 seed in the east as a huge underdog.


How many times have you posted this picture this season? You're spamming every thread with it.
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Post#2792 » by Stillwater » Tue May 8, 2018 4:18 am

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Stillwater wrote:Feel sorry for Raptors fans I expect they will have to do something significant this summer they have the pieces to move for Leonard unless another team with more draft assets presents a better offer so maybe that's in the cards for them.

Please stop. Who do we have. JV and Aldridge will be a terrible fit in the starting lineup. They have dejonte murray as their future staring point guard. They don't have any need for JV, delon, norm, potel. Siakam, and OG aren't star prospects. We don't have any valuable first round picks to trade. Where is there a common ground for a deal?? We have to include JV, Og, siakam, unprotected future first round picks, and prolly delon to even get talks starred, and Masai will never do

I was thinking something like your 2020 first unprotected and this : https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7043416 You lose Derozan,Poeltl,Siakam and get Leonard by also eating Gasols contract
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Post#2793 » by LivingLegend » Tue May 8, 2018 4:22 am

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Unfortunately Gilbert is going to make us draft this guy because they both went to MSU...


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Post#2794 » by LightTheBeam » Tue May 8, 2018 4:32 am

Man I really feel I'm owned an apology from at least a handful of Raptors fans.

I kept saying how they would lose in 5 or 6, and how there team wasnt very different and lebron is still lebron. I said Indiana was a tougher matchup and that lebron and the new guys needed time to gel.

I was labeled a troll, told I had no knowledge and I'm living in the past. **** talked by at least 5-10 different fans.

And look what happened. Sweep..

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Post#2795 » by IbakasD » Tue May 8, 2018 4:34 am

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Stillwater wrote:Feel sorry for Raptors fans I expect they will have to do something significant this summer they have the pieces to move for Leonard unless another team with more draft assets presents a better offer so maybe that's in the cards for them.

Please stop. Who do we have. JV and Aldridge will be a terrible fit in the starting lineup. They have dejonte murray as their future staring point guard. They don't have any need for JV, delon, norm, potel. Siakam, and OG aren't star prospects. We don't have any valuable first round picks to trade. Where is there a common ground for a deal?? We have to include JV, Og, siakam, unprotected future first round picks, and prolly delon to even get talks starred, and Masai will never do

I was thinking something like your 2020 first unprotected and this : https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/saved_trade/7043416 You lose Derozan,Poeltl,Siakam and get Leonard by also eating Gasols contract

Interesting. I could see spurs being interested in derozan and eating gasol contract is enticing for them. But there needs to be more than one unprotected first round pick involved. More like derozan, siakam, potel, two future firsts for kawhi and gasol. Even then why would Masai do this? It goes agaisnt everything with him, why would kawhi resign in Toronto for 5 more years too. Not a good fit, for either side. If I'm the raptors I look to trading demar to clippers for Tobias Harris, and one of their lottery picks.
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Post#2797 » by diamondsfinest » Tue May 8, 2018 4:47 am

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Post#2798 » by Franco » Tue May 8, 2018 4:49 am

I couldn't watch the game today, but just stopped to see how it ended and...

What the **** just happened? I was expecting Toronto to go out swinging but they just got slaughtered so bad that I though I misread the scoreboard. LMAO :lol:
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Post#2799 » by gp2015 » Tue May 8, 2018 4:50 am

Franco wrote:I couldn't watch the game today, but just stopped to see how it ended and...

What the **** just happened? I was expecting Toronto to go out swinging but they just got slaughtered so bad that I though I misread the scoreboard. LMAO :lol:


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Post#2800 » by RaptorsLife » Tue May 8, 2018 4:51 am

I was about to shed a tear but this amazing generous. Lakers fan came to raptors board and gave amazing pep talk.

Thank you so much inventible

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It takes time to get this good. You are clearly getting better and better every year. Never mind the downers and haters when they are just there when it's a good and sunny day. Focus on what you've achieved this year, being number 1 team in your conference is a great achievement--It's been a hella great season.

Don't over react on LEbron James because it doesn't matter how much pieces you add, he has always a chance of beating you. To guarantee a win against Lebron you must be many many times stronger than his team a.k.a. a super team. Even then, he can eked out a win if you're not careful. Remember in 2016, he overcame and win against a superteam as an underdog down from 3-1 without any home-court advantage when 99.9 percent is saying it's all over, nobody can do this except him, not even Michael Jordan so don't over analyze it. Remember also that in 2015 when Kyrie and Kevin Love wass injured, he singlehandedly carry the Cavaliers team and put a scare on a 73-9 team--the point is, it's just incredibly hard to beat Lebron even superteams do not 100% guarantee you can win against him, so just focus on what you have right now and continue to improve. Keep your head up.

If you could somehow snag kawhi, that would be awesome. Again does not guarantee you can get past Lebron but that would surely improve your team.
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