Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks) Updt pg. 30

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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#281 » by socal74 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:33 pm

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He's not an MVP player because a team with him as the best player will never win more than 40-45 games.

He's a great 2nd option, that is his best role. A PG who can't operate an offense, play defense and isn't willing to play off ball isn't winning much.


Dude. The marketing department wants to see you. Of course Kyrie is MVP material.


Not in a league where LeBron/KD/Harden/Curry/Westbrook/Kawhi exist

I don't buy that he wants to leave merely to get out of LeBron's shadow, has to be something more going on.

Yup I truly believe this also. All this Lebron is disappointed with this news I think is BS.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#282 » by LofJ » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:35 pm

Alienware wrote:He wants his own team but his preferred destination are the Spurs where another established star already plays? The heck...

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It's probably just ESPN doing what they do best - throwing a bunch of BS on the fire to make the story blow up more.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#283 » by bmurph128 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:35 pm

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that's a strange list.. there isn't really any theme I can see



Knicks/Heat: be "the man", build his brand, go for location rather than winning

T Wolves: he and Jimmy are like bffs

Spurs: random, but maybe working with Pop on Team USA made him really want to play for Pop? Weird because Kawhi would definitely still be the man there..


You're right..it's kind of all over the board
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#284 » by Cactus Jack » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:35 pm

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Kyrie for Melo? :lol:
Kyrie for Waiters? :lol:
Kyrie for LMA? :lol:



Kawhi.

Haha, in all seriousness though...in Minnesota they have Butler and KAT. Kawhi.

Seems odd that he would cite wanting to be "the man", but then be willing to go to two teams where he wouldn't be "the man".

It'd be awkward to trade him to Miami, which opens the door for a Melo trade I guess.

He's basically screwed the team. PG & Butler were actually available. I don't see those teams turning down Kyrie.

Melo would be a disaster imo.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks - pg.13) 

Post#285 » by SK21209 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:35 pm

Dejounte + LMA for Kyrie seems more than reasonable

:lol: I can dream. I'd love Kyrie on this team and I think Leonard being here doesn't undercut his desire to be "the man" at all. I could see it working out a bit like the 2013 team; Tony had a career year and was the offensive catalyst but Tim was still the best player on the team. And I think Kyrie's game would thrive under Pop as well.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#286 » by bulliedog8 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:36 pm

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The first 3 make sense. I know Kyrie has tremendous respect for Riley, plus he probably would love living in Miami. New York makes sense because he loves playing on the big stage and him and KP would be a pretty fun young duo to watch. I also think he would fit great with SA. Kawhi isnt really a ball dominant player and I think Kyrie would definitely buy into whatever Pop asks. Minny not so much because they already have Teague.


Kyrie and Butler are best friends and butler is on record saying he wants to play with Kyrie.

You could do Wiggins Cole and Bjelica for Kyrie. Minn could add okc 2018 and their own if needed.

You can either play kyrie as SG next to teague, or if the cavs waited until teague is trade eligible. Teague and wiggins for kyrie and shump.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#287 » by WaveTheWheat80 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:36 pm

bmurph128 wrote:
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Rafael122 wrote:
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that's a strange list.. there isn't really any theme I can see



Knicks/Heat: be "the man", build his brand, go for location rather than winning

T Wolves: he and Jimmy are like bffs

Spurs: random, but maybe working with Pop on Team USA made him really want to play for Pop? Weird because Kawhi would definitely still be the man there..


You're right..it's kind of all over the board


Irving for Wiggins/filler? Would be interesting.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#288 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:36 pm

jpengland wrote:Kyrie on the Jazz would be obscene.

He would have length and defense all around him and licence to bomb.

If I'm the Jazz, I'm picking up the phone with Favors, Hood, Rubio and as many picks as Cavs want. It may well not get the deal done but it's worth a shot.


Utah would be an ideal place for him. A great coach, tremendous defense all around him so his defensive flaws basically get erased. I like a young core of Gobert/Kyrie/Mitchell. Id try to keep Hood because he can play the 2 or 3 and brings some shooting (inconsistently I know).
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks - pg.13) 

Post#289 » by Coachcavplaya23 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:37 pm

Does anyone know what our pick situation for next year? I know our pick went to Porland.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#290 » by WaveTheWheat80 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:37 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
jpengland wrote:Kyrie on the Jazz would be obscene.

He would have length and defense all around him and licence to bomb.

If I'm the Jazz, I'm picking up the phone with Favors, Hood, Rubio and as many picks as Cavs want. It may well not get the deal done but it's worth a shot.


Utah would be an ideal place for him. A great coach, tremendous defense all around him so his defensive flaws basically get erased. I like a young core of Gobert/Kyrie/Mitchell. Id try to keep Hood because he can play the 2 or 3 and brings some shooting (inconsistently I know).


Favors/Rubio for Irving would be insane for the Jazz. Would the Cavs think Favors and Rubio is enough?
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks - pg.13) 

Post#291 » by BlackKnight » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:38 pm

Good, this is karma for the NBA gifting them Wiggins/Love
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks - pg.13) 

Post#292 » by bulliedog8 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:38 pm

Kyrie doesnt, more or less, want to be the man exactly. He pretty much already was. His role cant get much bigger. It is more he just isnt a fan of lebron, and never was. He never wanted lebron back in cleveland anyways. It was his team and they were building around him. Then lebron came and took that away. Then kyrie always got blamed for stuff but not lebron. I guarantee Kyrie would accept the EXACT same role on any other team that lebron isnt on.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#293 » by bmurph128 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:38 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
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Cactus Jack wrote:Kyrie for Melo? :lol:
Kyrie for Waiters? :lol:
Kyrie for LMA? :lol:



Kawhi.

Haha, in all seriousness though...in Minnesota they have Butler and KAT. Kawhi.

Seems odd that he would cite wanting to be "the man", but then be willing to go to two teams where he wouldn't be "the man".

It'd be awkward to trade him to Miami, which opens the door for a Melo trade I guess.

He's basically screwed the team. PG & Butler were actually available. I don't see those teams turning down Kyrie.

Melo would be a disaster imo.



It'd be the picks we would ask for. At this point, you have to think post LeBron too.

Getting Melo and multiple picks takes care of right now and the future.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#294 » by London2Boston » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:38 pm

Alienware wrote:He wants his own team but his preferred destination are the Spurs where another established star already plays? The heck...

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He probably thinks Kawhi will be happy to lock up guys and average his 20ppg while allowing Kyrie to be first option.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#295 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:38 pm

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Why does it matter? He's got two years left on his contract. That said it would have to be Wiggins + out of Minny. I'd pay good money to see a Waiters/Irving reunion in Miami though.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks - pg.13) 

Post#296 » by RaptorsLife » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:38 pm

The real answer everyone is waiting for

Will 2k change kyrie on the cover jersey when he is traded
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks - pg.13) 

Post#297 » by europeanfan » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:39 pm

Pop got 200% out of Tony Parker's talent and very much gave him the keys of the offense. So of course he'd do it for Kyrie. Would just put him in PnR with Kawhi and ask him to kick him to the corners a bit more often.
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Re: Windhorst: Irving asked to be traded in a mtg last week 

Post#298 » by DowJones » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:39 pm

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:A package from Pheonix would work best for the Cavs, in terms of appeasing LeBron somewhat (with Bledsoe) and at the same time, preparing for what seems like his inevitable departure (with other assets coming with Bledsoe).


Kyrie for Bledsoe and Josh Jackson makes sense. Cavs could flip Jackson or just keep him to start a re-build once LeBron leaves.

Bledsoe and smaller parts would never work for Cleveland.
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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks - pg.13) 

Post#299 » by Dr_Heat » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:39 pm

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Re: Windhorst: Kyrie Irving asked to be traded last week (Spurs, Heat, Wolves, Knicks - pg.13) 

Post#300 » by -Spyda- » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:39 pm

Kyrie fav teams : wolvs,knicks,spurs and the heat

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