What exactly makes Tatum more talked about/ranked higher than Pascal Siakim?

[L3GEND4RY]

If you think Tatum is talked about now, imagine if he was white. In Boston. Playing in the garden. Yup. He could actually run for president.

Imagine taking a minute and thinking through what you’re about to post before you do so.

[gordonyao]

Ability to create and ability to shoot 3 are very important in today's league
Also, wing players & young players carry premium too

[Bknight4three]

I am shocked by these responses. The answer is nothing. Pascal is the better assset all things considered (including age).

Siakam’s defense is so far beyond any reasonable expectation for Tatum at Siakam’s age. And Siakam just posted back to back seasons with 60%+ 2P FG%. If he just hits open 3s at a league average clip he’s gonna be a 25 PPG scorer with DPOY level defenses. Most GMs wold rather have Siakam.

[reborn123]

I am shocked by these responses. The answer is nothing. Pascal is the better assset all things considered (including age).

Siakam’s defense is so far beyond any reasonable expectation for Tatum at Siakam’s age. And Siakam just posted back to back seasons with 60%+ 2P FG%. If he just hits open 3s at a league average clip he’s gonna be a 25 PPG scorer with DPOY level defenses. Most GMs wold rather have Siakam.

Tatum also regressed his second year. Saw somewhere he was shooting more long twos. Looks like Kobe sabotaged him during their summer workouts LOL

[AmusingFiddle]

Though his stats are decent Siakim has a limited game. He can’t go left. Once/if he works to develop his game he will get better.
Tatum is raw as well. But he is young and I believe if gets his head right will be a better player than Siakim.


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[d00lttle]

Though his stats are decent Siakim has a limited game. He can’t go left. Once/if he works to develop his game he will get better.
Tatum is raw as well. But he is young and I believe if gets his head right will be a better player than Siakim.


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[VCBC]

Pascal has been balling out but typical RGM fashion, most want to pretend they'd be a great scout or GM when in actuality they'd be horrible.

He's 5-6 years older than Tatum and if you're down playing that then you truly don't understand the mechanisms of basic asset management especially considering that professional athletes have a limited shelf life.

For arguments sake, basketball player has a shelf life from 18-33, Pascal has 33% less of a career.

If you think there's a 33% diff in their play, then you're continue telling your real life friends you're an aspiring NBA scout.

[mademan]

Pascal has been balling out but typical RGM fashion, most want to pretend they'd be a great scout or GM when in actuality they'd be horrible.

He's 5-6 years older than Tatum and if you're down playing that then you truly don't understand the mechanisms of basic asset management especially considering that professional athletes have a limited shelf life.

For arguments sake, basketball player has a shelf life from 18-33, Pascal has 33% less of a career.

If you think there's a 33% diff in their play, then you're continue telling your real life friends you're an aspiring NBA scout.

4 years older.

[VCBC]

Pascal has been balling out but typical RGM fashion, most want to pretend they'd be a great scout or GM when in actuality they'd be horrible.

He's 5-6 years older than Tatum and if you're down playing that then you truly don't understand the mechanisms of basic asset management especially considering that professional athletes have a limited shelf life.

For arguments sake, basketball player has a shelf life from 18-33, Pascal has 33% less of a career.

If you think there's a 33% diff in their play, then you're continue telling your real life friends you're an aspiring NBA scout.

4 years older.

Thx for the correction, without even looking through this thread, you're the defender, maybe even the OP and a Pascal homer obvi. Unsurprising, my experience with Raps fans on here have 1 common theme, complete delusion

[ropjhk]

Though his stats are decent Siakim has a limited game. He can’t go left. Once/if he works to develop his game he will get better.
Tatum is raw as well. But he is young and I believe if gets his head right will be a better player than Siakim.


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Siakam has a limited game but even though he's 25, he has the potential of a 21 year old considering his late start to playing basketball and the rapid improvements he's made over the past 2 seasons. The fact that Siakam can be so effective with the limitations he has should scare opponents.

His defence is already elite. He was possibly the worst 3pt shooter last season and has become fairly decent hitting open 3's over the course of this season. He finishes with elite ability near the rim thanks to his length and footwork.

At the very least I think Siakam will develop a reliable midrange jumpshot that he can use when defences try to wall him off from the rim. His playmaking will improve as well.

[Tacoma]

This season, today, Siakam is better.

On the age thing, younger doesn’t always mean more potential because some peak earlier, some peak later. In Siakam’s case, he may peak later since he started playing basketball later.

And then there’s Tatum having regressed this year. Will this continue or will he turn it around? We’ll see next year. If his potential peaked in his rookie season, he won’t be the first.

However, if you ask me who I’d rather have in my team, I’d pick Siakam.

[mademan]

Pascal has been balling out but typical RGM fashion, most want to pretend they'd be a great scout or GM when in actuality they'd be horrible.

He's 5-6 years older than Tatum and if you're down playing that then you truly don't understand the mechanisms of basic asset management especially considering that professional athletes have a limited shelf life.

For arguments sake, basketball player has a shelf life from 18-33, Pascal has 33% less of a career.

If you think there's a 33% diff in their play, then you're continue telling your real life friends you're an aspiring NBA scout.

4 years older.

Thx for the correction, without even looking through this thread, you're the defender, maybe even the OP and a Pascal homer obvi. Unsurprising, my experience with Raps fans on here have 1 common theme, complete delusion

Pascal vs Tatum is a very legit debate. Pascal has clearly reached heights that Tatum has not, both in the RS and in the playoffs. And Tatum didnt improve over his rookie season (and if he did, it was very slight). Coming in as an already polished player, its fair to question how much better Tatum will actually get. Like I dont think its a given that he'll ever be as good as 2019 Siakim. You think it is, which is the only complete delusion here. He wouldnt be the first guy to have a promising rookie year and then stagnate.

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4 years older.

Thx for the correction, without even looking through this thread, you're the defender, maybe even the OP and a Pascal homer obvi. Unsurprising, my experience with Raps fans on here have 1 common theme, complete delusion

Pascal vs Tatum is a very legit debate. Pascal has clearly reached heights that Tatum has not, both in the RS and in the playoffs. And Tatum didnt improve over his rookie season (and if he did, it was very slight). Coming in as an already polished player, its fair to question how much better Tatum will actually get. Like I dont think its a given that he'll ever be as good as 2019 Siakim. You think it is, which is the only complete delusion here. He wouldnt be the first guy to have a promising rookie year and then stagnate.

Google Sophomore Slump, best of luck after Kawhi leaves. Hope Pascal can do this when he's the #1

[ropjhk]

Pascal has been balling out but typical RGM fashion, most want to pretend they'd be a great scout or GM when in actuality they'd be horrible.

He's 5-6 years older than Tatum and if you're down playing that then you truly don't understand the mechanisms of basic asset management especially considering that professional athletes have a limited shelf life.

For arguments sake, basketball player has a shelf life from 18-33, Pascal has 33% less of a career.

If you think there's a 33% diff in their play, then you're continue telling your real life friends you're an aspiring NBA scout.

4 years older.

Thx for the correction, without even looking through this thread, you're the defender, maybe even the OP and a Pascal homer obvi. Unsurprising, my experience with Raps fans on here have 1 common theme, complete delusion

He may have a shorter prime than most players thanks to his late start to basketball but he will continue to improve at a later age than most players. Raptor fans may not always be the best shadow GMs but fortunately for the Raptors they have a guy in Masai who does know how to manage his assets weighing risk vs reward in his transactions. I trust Masai to get full value out of Siakam, whatever that may mean.

[mademan]

Thx for the correction, without even looking through this thread, you're the defender, maybe even the OP and a Pascal homer obvi. Unsurprising, my experience with Raps fans on here have 1 common theme, complete delusion

Pascal vs Tatum is a very legit debate. Pascal has clearly reached heights that Tatum has not, both in the RS and in the playoffs. And Tatum didnt improve over his rookie season (and if he did, it was very slight). Coming in as an already polished player, its fair to question how much better Tatum will actually get. Like I dont think its a given that he'll ever be as good as 2019 Siakim. You think it is, which is the only complete delusion here. He wouldnt be the first guy to have a promising rookie year and then stagnate.

Google Sophomore Slump, best of luck after Kawhi leaves. Hope Pascal can do this when he's the #1

Sure. Good play is good. Stagnated play is good. Literally nothing that Tatum did this year couldve made him look worse to you, lol.

I think FMVP Pascal Siakim will be fine. With or without Kawhi. Let's see how Boston looks next year without Irving.

[VCBC]

Pascal vs Tatum is a very legit debate. Pascal has clearly reached heights that Tatum has not, both in the RS and in the playoffs. And Tatum didnt improve over his rookie season (and if he did, it was very slight). Coming in as an already polished player, its fair to question how much better Tatum will actually get. Like I dont think its a given that he'll ever be as good as 2019 Siakim. You think it is, which is the only complete delusion here. He wouldnt be the first guy to have a promising rookie year and then stagnate.

Google Sophomore Slump, best of luck after Kawhi leaves. Hope Pascal can do this when he's the #1

Sure. Good play is good. Stagnated play is good. Literally nothing that Tatum did this year couldve made him look worse to you, lol.

I think FMVP Pascal Siakim will be fine. With or without Kawhi. Let's see how Boston looks next year without Irving.

What color is the thong for your Raps cheerleader uniform?

[Syugo]

Honestly I really love siakam but some takes (both positive and negative) seem to reach so hard. Siakam learned his niche. Is he gonna be doing those super impressive off the dribble fading mid rangers ? No. But he knows his role and takes advantage of big mismatchs on the regular. The talk of "sustainability" goes hand in hand with that -- yes 14/17 isn't expected every night but if you watched the game he didnt play outside of himself he just ran the floor and played his role perfectly. I don't think that makes him more skilled than Tatum. Maybe more useful for this particular team but you'd be a fool to try a build a team around him over Tatum.

[mademan]

Google Sophomore Slump, best of luck after Kawhi leaves. Hope Pascal can do this when he's the #1

Sure. Good play is good. Stagnated play is good. Literally nothing that Tatum did this year couldve made him look worse to you, lol.

I think FMVP Pascal Siakim will be fine. With or without Kawhi. Let's see how Boston looks next year without Irving.

What color is the thong for your Raps cheerleader uniform?

Not green. How about those 65 win C's with Kyrie and Hayward. Heard they were gonna do some big things this year.

loooooollllllll

[The_Hater]

Not sure why this has to be a Siakam vs Tatum thing? Tatum just turned 21 and well ahead of the curve for a 21 year old despite so many people wanting to write him off. And Siakam is 24, which is pretty advanced for a prospect, but he's also only been playing basketball for 7 years and seems to be improving at a ridiculously fast rate because of that. But Tatum has improvement years ahead of him as well as a huge majority of 21 year olds aren't finished products.

I see both of these players playing in multiple all-star games each.

[mtcan]

Thx for the correction, without even looking through this thread, you're the defender, maybe even the OP and a Pascal homer obvi. Unsurprising, my experience with Raps fans on here have 1 common theme, complete delusion

Pascal vs Tatum is a very legit debate. Pascal has clearly reached heights that Tatum has not, both in the RS and in the playoffs. And Tatum didnt improve over his rookie season (and if he did, it was very slight). Coming in as an already polished player, its fair to question how much better Tatum will actually get. Like I dont think its a given that he'll ever be as good as 2019 Siakim. You think it is, which is the only complete delusion here. He wouldnt be the first guy to have a promising rookie year and then stagnate.

Google Sophomore Slump, best of luck after Kawhi leaves. Hope Pascal can do this when he's the #1

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