TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding"

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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#281 » by jason bourne » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:13 pm

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Snakebites wrote:I just have issue with you making lots of negative assumptions about her while making none about him.

This post here is full of them.


So you think the mom was justified going directly to TMZ to report him?


Unfortunately, here in the real world, it appears that TMZ got the story from the public record. She went to the police. The story says:

TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/


It won't stand up in court if they won't let the recording in as evidence.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#282 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:15 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
Pointgod wrote:Clyde has some serious anger issues against women. Yikes


given that I was raised by 3 women myself, i don't think that's true. :lol:

but do tell us more.



It's pretty obvious you didn't have a strong male role model in your life.

Maybe you just needed a good dad, maybe somebody like Demarcus Cousins, to show you the ropes in how to make veiled threats, chose the right size for clothes, how to extend threads online, et al.


i didn't have a male role model actually, like I said, I was raised by mother, aunt and grandmother. i doubt there's anyone here that respects women as much as I do.

but I also understand the dynamic between pro athletes and some of the hood rats that they get into these situations with. we see this over and over and over again. i don't know this woman, but I do know Cousins (at least a lot more than I know her), and almost everyone that I've talked to that knows him and everything i've read/seen from him is that he's generally a good guy, despite being a hothead sometimes. that doesn't justify what he said, of course it's wrong, but that doesn't mean she was right, and I doubt we have the whole story here.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#283 » by azcatz11 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:17 pm

Police are probably interviewing him as I'm typing this...I'm curious if he actually owns a gun.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#284 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:17 pm

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XxIronChainzxX wrote:
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So you think the mom was justified going directly to TMZ to report him?


Unfortunately, here in the real world, it appears that TMZ got the story from the public record. She went to the police. The story says:

TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/


It won't stand up in court if they won't let the recording in as evidence.


they got the story from public record, I don't they got the recording from there as well. that recording they only could've gotten from her if police were treating it as evidence.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#285 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:17 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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given that I was raised by 3 women myself, i don't think that's true. :lol:

but do tell us more.



It's pretty obvious you didn't have a strong male role model in your life.

Maybe you just needed a good dad, maybe somebody like Demarcus Cousins, to show you the ropes in how to make veiled threats, chose the right size for clothes, how to extend threads online, et al.


i didn't have a male role model actually, like I said, I was raised by mother, aunt and grandmother. i doubt there's anyone here that respects women as much as I do.

but I also understand the dynamic between pro athletes and some of the hood rats that they get into these situations with. we see this over and over and over again. i don't know this woman, but I do know Cousins (at least a lot more than I know her), and almost everyone that I've talked to that knows him and everything i've read/seen from is that he's generally a good guy, despite being a hothead sometimes. that doesn't justify what he said, of course it's wrong, but that doesn't mean she said was right, and I doubt we have the whole story here.



Yes. We all could tell you came from a broken home.

We also know you're an avid DeMarcus follower on Pinterest, which enables you to know everything about his parenting. We covered that pages ago.

But let's talk more about your respect for women. Would you say that you respect them bigly and that nobody, nobody respects them more than you?
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#286 » by XxIronChainzxX » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:18 pm

clyde21 wrote:
jason bourne wrote:
XxIronChainzxX wrote:
Unfortunately, here in the real world, it appears that TMZ got the story from the public record. She went to the police. The story says:

TMZ Sports has obtained court docs and a police report filed by DC's ex-girlfriend, Christy West -- claiming the NBA star threatened her on August 23, just one day before Cousins was set to marry his new girlfriend, Morgan Lang, in Atlanta.

https://www.tmz.com/2019/08/27/demarcus-cousins-accused-threatening-shoot-baby-mama-before-wedding/


It won't stand up in court if they won't let the recording in as evidence.


they got the story from public record, I don't they got the recording from there as well. that recording they only could've gotten from her if police were treating it as evidence.


That's not true. The recording would be part of the file. Usually there is a transcript of it, and in most modern day vases the USB or other digital device that holds the recording is available for copying if it's been led into evidence.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#287 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:19 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:

It's pretty obvious you didn't have a strong male role model in your life.

Maybe you just needed a good dad, maybe somebody like Demarcus Cousins, to show you the ropes in how to make veiled threats, chose the right size for clothes, how to extend threads online, et al.


i didn't have a male role model actually, like I said, I was raised by mother, aunt and grandmother. i doubt there's anyone here that respects women as much as I do.

but I also understand the dynamic between pro athletes and some of the hood rats that they get into these situations with. we see this over and over and over again. i don't know this woman, but I do know Cousins (at least a lot more than I know her), and almost everyone that I've talked to that knows him and everything i've read/seen from is that he's generally a good guy, despite being a hothead sometimes. that doesn't justify what he said, of course it's wrong, but that doesn't mean she said was right, and I doubt we have the whole story here.



Yes. We all could tell you came from a broken home.

We also know you're an avid DeMarcus follower on Pinterest, which enables you to know everything about his parenting. We covered that pages ago.

But let's talk more about your respect for women. Would you say that you respect them bigly and that nobody, nobody respects them more than you?


gotta love the personal insults, but your racist remarks from earlier were a better look for you. :lol:
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#288 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:21 pm

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jason bourne wrote:
It won't stand up in court if they won't let the recording in as evidence.


they got the story from public record, I don't they got the recording from there as well. that recording they only could've gotten from her if police were treating it as evidence.


That's not true. The recording would be part of the file. Usually there is a transcript of it, and in most modern day vases the USB or other digital device that holds the recording is available for copying if it's been led into evidence.


they didn't get a transcript, they got the actual recording. if that recording was submitted to the police and filed as EVIDENCE, they would not just send it to TMZ unless this is actually not being investigated in that capacity.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#289 » by jason bourne » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:21 pm

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jason bourne wrote:
It won't stand up in court if they won't let the recording in as evidence.


they got the story from public record, I don't they got the recording from there as well. that recording they only could've gotten from her if police were treating it as evidence.


That's not true. The recording would be part of the file. Usually there is a transcript of it, and in most modern day vases the USB or other digital device that holds the recording is available for copying if it's been led into evidence.


No. Boogie didn't know he was being recorded. It doesn't matter if it's out in public. It won't be admissible as evidence in court. Is she filing a complaint?
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Post#290 » by Smash3 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:21 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
AbeVigodaLive wrote:

It's pretty obvious you didn't have a strong male role model in your life.

Maybe you just needed a good dad, maybe somebody like Demarcus Cousins, to show you the ropes in how to make veiled threats, chose the right size for clothes, how to extend threads online, et al.


i didn't have a male role model actually, like I said, I was raised by mother, aunt and grandmother. i doubt there's anyone here that respects women as much as I do.

but I also understand the dynamic between pro athletes and some of the hood rats that they get into these situations with. we see this over and over and over again. i don't know this woman, but I do know Cousins (at least a lot more than I know her), and almost everyone that I've talked to that knows him and everything i've read/seen from is that he's generally a good guy, despite being a hothead sometimes. that doesn't justify what he said, of course it's wrong, but that doesn't mean she said was right, and I doubt we have the whole story here.



Yes. We all could tell you came from a broken home.

We also know you're an avid DeMarcus follower on Pinterest, which enables you to know everything about his parenting. We covered that pages ago.

But let's talk more about your respect for women. Would you say that you respect them bigly and that nobody, nobody respects them more than you?


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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#291 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:22 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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clyde21 wrote:
i didn't have a male role model actually, like I said, I was raised by mother, aunt and grandmother. i doubt there's anyone here that respects women as much as I do.

but I also understand the dynamic between pro athletes and some of the hood rats that they get into these situations with. we see this over and over and over again. i don't know this woman, but I do know Cousins (at least a lot more than I know her), and almost everyone that I've talked to that knows him and everything i've read/seen from is that he's generally a good guy, despite being a hothead sometimes. that doesn't justify what he said, of course it's wrong, but that doesn't mean she said was right, and I doubt we have the whole story here.



Yes. We all could tell you came from a broken home.

We also know you're an avid DeMarcus follower on Pinterest, which enables you to know everything about his parenting. We covered that pages ago.

But let's talk more about your respect for women. Would you say that you respect them bigly and that nobody, nobody respects them more than you?


gotta love the personal insults, but your racist remarks from earlier were a better look for you. :lol:




Personal insult? Racism? Where?




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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#292 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:24 pm

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Yes. We all could tell you came from a broken home.

We also know you're an avid DeMarcus follower on Pinterest, which enables you to know everything about his parenting. We covered that pages ago.

But let's talk more about your respect for women. Would you say that you respect them bigly and that nobody, nobody respects them more than you?


gotta love the personal insults, but your racist remarks from earlier were a better look for you. :lol:




Personal insult? Racism? Where?




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when you essentially said we should assume black men are bad fathers unless proven otherwise.

and your posts are so corny lmao :lol:
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Post#293 » by XxIronChainzxX » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:25 pm

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they got the story from public record, I don't they got the recording from there as well. that recording they only could've gotten from her if police were treating it as evidence.


That's not true. The recording would be part of the file. Usually there is a transcript of it, and in most modern day vases the USB or other digital device that holds the recording is available for copying if it's been led into evidence.


they didn't get a transcript, they got the actual recording. if that recording was submitted to the police and filed as EVIDENCE, they would not just send it to TMZ unless this is actually not being investigated in that capacity.


I can't speak to Alabama court rooms, but as I said in the post you're quoting, the recording normally would be part of the family court proceedings where the ex-wife is seeking to the restrictions on visitation. You're confusing the potential criminal investigation by the police (that might not go anywhere) with the family / civil proceeding that the ex wife has started / is continuing. The TMZ article is not completely clear on this point.

The police report themselves would (again in our jurisdiction here up North to the best of my knowledge) be provided to the complainant and she is able to use it as evidence in her family court proceedings.

So, as I said at the start, let's cool it with the alternative facts to slander this woman. I am not saying it impossible that she sold it to TMZ but there's no evidence to suggest that she did.
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Post#294 » by TheGOATWill » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:26 pm

My son turned 18 this summer. Such a glorious day when I wished his idiot mother one final gfy.
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Post#295 » by HBK_Kliq_33 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:27 pm

He's either injured, punching his teammates, cusssing out his coaches or threatening to kill his wife. Send this disaster of a man to China already.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#296 » by XxIronChainzxX » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:27 pm

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they got the story from public record, I don't they got the recording from there as well. that recording they only could've gotten from her if police were treating it as evidence.


That's not true. The recording would be part of the file. Usually there is a transcript of it, and in most modern day vases the USB or other digital device that holds the recording is available for copying if it's been led into evidence.


No. Boogie didn't know he was being recorded. It doesn't matter if it's out in public. It won't be admissible as evidence in court. Is she filing a complaint?


I don't understand what you're taking about here. I can't speak to Alabama court procedure and whether or not a surreptitious recording would be admissible as evidence. I can conceive of legal principles justifying both sides in a case where the safety of a child was in issue.

The admissibility of the evidence in the family proceedings has nothing to do with it's inclusion in the court file that TMZ seemingly has accessed. It is possible to include in a record all sorts of inadmissible evidence. Your claim for legal relief would fail but all of that evidence is still in the court file.
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Post#297 » by AbeVigodaLive » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:28 pm

clyde21 wrote:
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gotta love the personal insults, but your racist remarks from earlier were a better look for you. :lol:




Personal insult? Racism? Where?




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when you essentially said we should assume black men are bad fathers unless proven otherwise.




You seem to be mistaken.

Can you quote one of them so I can see where you're getting that from? Thanks.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#298 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:28 pm

XxIronChainzxX wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
XxIronChainzxX wrote:
That's not true. The recording would be part of the file. Usually there is a transcript of it, and in most modern day vases the USB or other digital device that holds the recording is available for copying if it's been led into evidence.


they didn't get a transcript, they got the actual recording. if that recording was submitted to the police and filed as EVIDENCE, they would not just send it to TMZ unless this is actually not being investigated in that capacity.


I can't speak to Alabama court rooms, but as I said in the post you're quoting, the recording normally would be part of the family court proceedings where the ex-wife is seeking to the restrictions on visitation. You're confusing the potential criminal investigation by the police (that might not go anywhere) with the family / civil proceeding that the ex wife has started / is continuing. The TMZ article is not completely clear on this point.

The police report themselves would (again in our jurisdiction here up North to the best of my knowledge) be provided to the complainant and she is able to use it as evidence in her family court proceedings.

So, as I said at the start, let's cool it with the alternative facts to slander this woman. I am not saying it impossible that she sold it to TMZ but there's no evidence to suggest that she did.


Then stop referencing it as the end all.

and I guess you could say that we have no evidence that she ended up giving this to video to TMZ herself, which I guess is fair enough, but I highly, highly, highly doubt that TMZ just went to the court room website and downloaded the video for themselves.
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Re: TMZ: "DeMarcus Cousins Allegedly Threatening to Shoot Baby Mama Before Wedding" 

Post#299 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:30 pm

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AbeVigodaLive wrote:


Personal insult? Racism? Where?




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when you essentially said we should assume black men are bad fathers unless proven otherwise.




You seem to be mistaken.

Can you quote one of them so I can see where you're getting that from? Thanks.


i'm not mistaken. you said we should not assume that Cousins is a good father...I told you that that has negative connotations because too many people assume that black men are automatically not good/and or absentee fathers, and you followed it up with corny ass jokes for the last 3 pages.

there's nothing funny about these racial undertones. the default position should NOT be 'he's not a good father until I see it it in front of me*...considering this is almost never a discussion point when it's a white man in question.

there's literally nothing, ZERO evidence, to suggest that Cousins is NOT a good father to his boy. **** outta here if you assume otherwise.
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Post#300 » by lonzo_pelota » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:32 pm

taking into account the months of planning and pics and vid from the wedding, it looked like he spent a fortune and had all his famous celeb athlete friends in attendance there as well. pretty sure he wanted his offspring there to enjoy the momentous occasion as well, she's probably been recording everything he says for a while baiting and waiting for him to fly off the handle, as she isnt the lucky bride this was the perfect storm to capture him at a low point, a week after a acl tear ending his season and his big elaborate wedding a week later and u dont want to let his son be apart of it, yeah she's a vile woman. and he said what i'd expect him to say with all things considered he's not exactly a choir boy.

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