[WINDHORST]: Lakers May Need To Trade For LeBron This Summer

[Zvaart]

That entitled prick still thinks he is in his prime. Bitch, as usual.

[Lalouie]

Including the mindless personnel moves like Westbrook, and the lack of accountability when it didn't work...

Hold Pelinka and Jeanie Buss accountable. They made the trade, not LeBron. If you own a business and an employee pushes an idea which you then decide to implement; it's your fault if/when it doesn't work out, not the employee's.

if you want to hold tight and say buss holds the purse, well i can't argue, but lebron has always held ALL the teams hostage!!!
that's his mo. that's the tradeoff

i'll go further. THIS YEAR is a parody of lebron's past decade. all that is laughable, all that is wrong about lebron's mo is laid bare this year like a paisley shirt at a funeral. he's "louder" this year than we've ever seen him because he's painted himself and the lakers in a corner. he wanted lal to be his last stop. if lal was sitting pretty lebron would have the muscle to bring in bronny.

all that is now kaput and the bronny thing, instead of being the end goal @lal is now his excuse for running out and "going back home". like as if the cavs was always going to be his last stop

[JN61]

People act like LeBron pushes a needle at all these days. Facts are he has been first round exit or missed the playoffs in 2/3 of the last year and this year will be another such year. They had to manufacture one year where he could to further with all other teams not wanting to play.

If LeBron gets traded it's just same story. He is unable to adapt to play of other players. 100% halts progress of younger players and does total freezing of team play in favour of him getting his numbers and in the process sacrificing team offense and the team defense. And leading his team to first round exit. Any other potential all-star in the team will be recuded jump shooter. Why would anyone want that circus for a year or two and lose all your assets in the process?

[JN61]

Can't wait for the LBJ era to be over. Dude can't retire soon enough. Top 3 Ever, icon, yadda yadda yadda, we know....but please move on already.

Worst post of all-time. You act like he's your boss, lmao he's in your head living rent free.

LBJ era is the greatest era in any sport.

It's fine if you think of your childhood hero in this manner but clearly it is not in the grand scheme of things. There has been far more dominant players. What is the thing about LeBron era is everyone ate during this era.

[Iplaytolose]

Can't wait for the LBJ era to be over. Dude can't retire soon enough. Top 3 Ever, icon, yadda yadda yadda, we know....but please move on already.

Worst post of all-time. You act like he's your boss, lmao he's in your head living rent free.

LBJ era is the greatest era in any sport.

It's fine if you think of your childhood hero in this manner but clearly it is not in the grand scheme of things. There has been far more dominant players. What is the thing about LeBron era is everyone ate during this era.

LeBron went to the finals 8x in a row (10 total), and his teams have only been favored 4 times in the finals. What other player(s) within the past 20 years had that kind of dominance?

[Up-And-Coming]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Zion was somehow Laker bound tbh.

The funny thing is AD with his defense actually fits the Pels current roster more than Zion imo:

Graham
McCollum
Ingram
AD/Nance Jr
Valanciunas/Hayes

[Crizzle]

far more dominant?

[The Rebel]

Worst post of all-time. You act like he's your boss, lmao he's in your head living rent free.

LBJ era is the greatest era in any sport.

It's fine if you think of your childhood hero in this manner but clearly it is not in the grand scheme of things. There has been far more dominant players. What is the thing about LeBron era is everyone ate during this era.

LeBron went to the finals 8x in a row (10 total), and his teams have only been favored 4 times in the finals. What other player(s) within the past 20 years had that kind of dominance?

What other player has joined another team with a franchise player and then recruited another franchise player to join them, then left and did it again when the health of the 1st two guys declined? While being in arguably the weakest conference in NBA history?

[soloxylo]

LeBron thinks he's a master 693D chess player & manipulator through "leaked" info and comments via the media and his cohorts (Klutch), but for me he's only a petulant child who runs away to greener pastures once his demands are not met and he senses a better opportunity somewhere else.

This is one of the main reasons LeBron will never be on the same pedestal as Jordan. It's as simple as that.

For a guy that wasted the first 7 years of his career, with a franchise that failed miserably to build around him; I don't blame him one bit. Incompetent franchises waste star primes, and ultimately windows to compete for a championship. Which we're seeing with the Lakers, who by the optics are content with getting 1 ring out of the LeBron + AD core. It just doesn't jive well with his pursuit of more than that, and age at 37 - 18 seasons in his timeline is just narrowing as we speak. Jordan had everything he needed to win, HOF coach and possibly the greatest all time. Krause making all the right moves, bringing Kukoc over, getting Pippen on a bargain deal which facilitated adding more talent around Jordan. MJ had no reason to think about leaving, please.

[zshawn10]

This has to all come as a shock to the Lakers and especially their vice president of basketball operations, Rob Pelinka, who has repeatedly yielded to James and the appropriately-named Klutch Sports Group that represents him.

Why appropriate?

Because James and agent Rich Paul long grabbed hold of the Lakers organization and are now beginning to really squeeze.

The situation is tense enough that one source close to the Lakers likened it to the early days of a war.

But for as important as Bryant was to the Lakers, sources inside the organization have long said that not even the legendary Black Mamba wielded as much power within the organization as James now has.

Bryant was never able to strong-arm the Lakers to make a move like the one James helped orchestrate for Westbrook, which has proven to be an outright disaster.

https://theathletic.com/3144921/2022/02/23/oram-as-tensions-rise-between-lebron-james-and-rob-pelinka-where-will-lakers-draw-the-line?source=user-shared-article

[The Laker Kid]

Lebron is some sort of a beneficial parasite. He's on your team and you win but he controls you.

[SpreeChokeJob]

LeBron thinks he's a master 693D chess player & manipulator through "leaked" info and comments via the media and his cohorts (Klutch), but for me he's only a petulant child who runs away to greener pastures once his demands are not met and he senses a better opportunity somewhere else.

This is one of the main reasons LeBron will never be on the same pedestal as Jordan. It's as simple as that.

For a guy that wasted the first 7 years of his career, with a franchise that failed miserably to build around him; I don't blame him one bit. Incompetent franchises waste star primes, and ultimately windows to compete for a championship. Which we're seeing with the Lakers, who by the optics are content with getting 1 ring out of the LeBron + AD core. It just doesn't jive well with his pursuit of more than that, and age at 37 - 18 seasons in his timeline is just narrowing as we speak. Jordan had everything he needed to win, HOF coach and possibly the greatest all time. Krause making all the right moves, bringing Kukoc over, getting Pippen on a bargain deal which facilitated adding more talent around Jordan. MJ had no reason to think about leaving, please.

The key was Krause was making all the moves. We have already seen what an MJ GM’d team is in Charlotte.

Lebron is responsible for the mess in the Lakers now with his GM moves. Now he’s acting up for a mess he created.

[Run DLC]

It’s the same story with LeBron and his “posse” everywhere he goes. He tried to pull the same stunt in Miami, but Riley showed him who’s the boss and LeBron took his ball and went home afterwards. Great player, but he’s always been a manipulative control freak who always need to get things done his way or he walks out.

[zshawn10]

It’s the same story with LeBron and his “posse” everywhere he goes. He tried to pull the same stunt in Miami, but Riley showed him who’s the boss and LeBron took his ball and went home afterwards. Great player, but he’s always been a manipulative control freak who always need to get things done his way or he walks out.

Wow you can't say "posse." Lebron might think you are racist

[art_tatum]

Worst post of all-time. You act like he's your boss, lmao he's in your head living rent free.

LBJ era is the greatest era in any sport.

It's fine if you think of your childhood hero in this manner but clearly it is not in the grand scheme of things. There has been far more dominant players. What is the thing about LeBron era is everyone ate during this era.

LeBron went to the finals 8x in a row (10 total), and his teams have only been favored 4 times in the finals. What other player(s) within the past 20 years had that kind of dominance?

Easy when u steal the top of players in you already weak conference to stack the deck.
Lebron's era was 2011 to 2015
Historically it's going to be seen as curry's era bc of how he changed the game. Not that i like it but every kid on the play ground since 2015 has been imitating curry. All i hear are curry or Kobe when shots are up.

[Ballerhogger]

Lebron is some sort of a beneficial parasite. He's on your team and you win but he controls you.

He’s venom

[Johnny Bball]

Can't wait for the LBJ era to be over. Dude can't retire soon enough. Top 3 Ever, icon, yadda yadda yadda, we know....but please move on already.

Worst post of all-time. You act like he's your boss, lmao he's in your head living rent free.

LBJ era is the greatest era in any sport.

Hardly. I also can't wait to see him retire. The sport will improve greatly once the guy that has gamed the entire process and run through every of his team's picks and prospects with like a virus is gone. It would be nice if there weren't as many blatant attempts by players to collude and create pre-manufactured titles every year.

[R-DAWG]

It’s the same story with LeBron and his “posse” everywhere he goes. He tried to pull the same stunt in Miami, but Riley showed him who’s the boss and LeBron took his ball and went home afterwards. Great player, but he’s always been a manipulative control freak who always need to get things done his way or he walks out.

Lebron should have never left Pat Riley to go back to an organization that he didn't trust - Cleveland.

Lakers made their own bed getting into the Lebron James business. In order to sign him, you have to give him control. They did that, and he took them out of their 7 year slump and back to the top of the NBA. Just like Lebron made his bed with the Westbrook trade, the Lakers made their bed handing the keys over to Lebron.

[John Murdoch]

People act like LeBron pushes a needle at all these days. Facts are he has been first round exit or missed the playoffs in 2/3 of the last year and this year will be another such year. They had to manufacture one year where he could to further with all other teams not wanting to play.

If LeBron gets traded it's just same story. He is unable to adapt to play of other players. 100% halts progress of younger players and does total freezing of team play in favour of him getting his numbers and in the process sacrificing team offense and the team defense. And leading his team to first round exit. Any other potential all-star in the team will be recuded jump shooter. Why would anyone want that circus for a year or two and lose all your assets in the process?

Rediculous post

[Kilroy]

It’s the same story with LeBron and his “posse” everywhere he goes. He tried to pull the same stunt in Miami, but Riley showed him who’s the boss and LeBron took his ball and went home afterwards. Great player, but he’s always been a manipulative control freak who always need to get things done his way or he walks out.

Lebron should have never left Pat Riley to go back to an organization that he didn't trust - Cleveland.

Lakers made their own bed getting into the Lebron James business. In order to sign him, you have to give him control. They did that, and he took them out of their 7 year slump and back to the top of the NBA. Just like Lebron made his bed with the Westbrook trade, the Lakers made their bed handing the keys over to Lebron.

True... Another way to look at that is the Lakers got what they wanted and now it's just a matter of knowing when it's time to call it over... It sounds like they identified that time.

Let's also not act like LeBron didn't get what he wanted either... A championship and a major motion picture (it sucked, but you can't blame that on the Lakers)...

The real question I have is, what does AD want?