Woj/Shams: Ime Udoka Suspended for 2022-23 Season - Inappropriate Relationship, Conduct Violations

[Castle Black]

How long before Boston decides to just rip off the band-aid and fire Udoka and be done with it.

[NZB2323]

I just woke up and saw this on undisputed. Can someone help me understand because I don't get it. It doesn't ses like there was no abuse, no manipulation, everything was consensual between adults, etc. If I'm in the Celtics brass idgaf about this. If it's wrong then give him 20 games but the season?

It goes against the Celtics code of conduct, and if it was with a “lower ranking” individual, that individual isn’t in a position to say no or to end the relationship without fear of consequences.

Where do you draw the line and with what consequences? I don’t think Mark Cuban had a policy like this for most of his ownership, and several female employees felt objectified and sexually harassed and now the reputation of Cuban and the Mavs is forever tainted.

[Harry Garris]

udoka is a good dude. hope its nothing serious

We don't know much about Ime Udoka outside of his job. He seems like a good basketball coach but that's irrelevant to how he behaves during the rest of his life.

Not saying we should pass judgement until facts come out, but a lot of seemingly "good people" have done terrible things. Definitely shouldn't let our perception of a guy cloud what the facts are if he did in fact do something illegal or even break team policy.

I've met him twice so speaking to my personal opinion of him. If he was separated and broke a team rule, that still doesn't make him a bad guy. Mistakes happen. That's life.

Mistakes happen but so do consequences.

I don't know what the Celtics team rules are about this sort of thing. I know that at my former employer if any employee openly had an affair or cheating scandal with one of their co-workers they would have been fired. It doesn't mean that you're a terrible person and irredeemable the rest of your life, but it does show a pretty serious lack of character, in my opinion.

Also Gersson Rosas was just fired for having a public affair last year. If Glen Taylor of all people holds his employees to a higher standard than Wyc Grousbeck does that's pretty hilarious, you have to admit.

[Magic_Johnny12]

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[ATRAIN53]

well isn't this a fun RE-READ today.....

"How Ime Udoka’s Brutal Honesty Turned the Celtics Into Contenders"
https://www.theringer.com/2022/6/1/23149486/ime-udoka-boston-celtics-nba-finals

"His Celtics players have lauded their coach’s toughness, his disarming honesty, and his résumé as a former player, but how much do they really know about the 44-year-old, who honed his coaching skills as an assistant in San Antonio from 2012 to 2019? Have they noticed the scar on the back of his head?"

Classic don't dip your pen in the company ink well.....

This really sucks because minority hires is still a problem in pro sports.

[Mister Ze]

So he gets the same suspension as the Suns owner? Seems ludicrous.

There is certainly something that’s being withheld from this story.

Fine him, suspend him for the start of the season, but why punish the Celtics players and fans for this !?

[WuTang_CMB]

We don't know much about Ime Udoka outside of his job. He seems like a good basketball coach but that's irrelevant to how he behaves during the rest of his life.

Not saying we should pass judgement until facts come out, but a lot of seemingly "good people" have done terrible things. Definitely shouldn't let our perception of a guy cloud what the facts are if he did in fact do something illegal or even break team policy.

I've met him twice so speaking to my personal opinion of him. If he was separated and broke a team rule, that still doesn't make him a bad guy. Mistakes happen. That's life.

Mistakes happen but so do consequences.

I don't know what the Celtics team rules are about this sort of thing. I know that at my former employer if any employee openly had an affair or cheating scandal with one of their co-workers they would have been fired. It doesn't mean that you're a terrible person and irredeemable the rest of your life, but it does show a pretty serious lack of character, in my opinion.

Which is why he is getting punished. This isn't a "terrible" thing if he was seperated. He just made the wrong decision and is likely costing him his job. No ones perfect.

[Castle Black]

Damn Ime Udoka out here just sleeping with everybody apparently . My man is diabolically horny

[Billl]

I can't imagine they will actually suspend him for a year, but who knows. Most major companies have pretty strict rules about managers dating the people who report to them. And for good reason. If your coworker is sleeping with the boss and they get promoted over you, what is going to be your first thought? And if they break up with each other, can you trust your ex to give fair performance reviews, promotions, demotions, discipline etc? And if there is middle management in between, how could you be expected to manage that? Are you going to be able to fire the bosses girlfriend? It's just an HR nightmare/lawsuit waiting to happen in all directions.

[Antinomy]

He slept with redacted!? And the redacted?!

Bro was unfathomably horny

[Zeno]

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This may or may not be true but can you imagine being one of the 3 women listed in basketball operations. I'd be turning off everything too.

[Statlanta]

Proof that the prior generation couldn't handle social media. Imagine Tony Parker, Jason Kidd or Chauncey Billups in today's cancel culture, lol

[enigmatics]

He slept with the Senior VPs wife!? And the VP of Player Development?!

Bro was unfathomably horny

Ime Udoka - the face of NFG!

All aboard the #UdokaRedRocketExpress !

[azcatz11]

Sounds like he's probably done in Boston. I don't really know how he comes back from this there. Sucks for Celtic fans.

[NZB2323]

Why don't they release the name of the female counterpart since this was consensual and women want equal rights...

Who is “they?”

The story is about Udoka, not Jane Doe. If Jane Doe is a “lower ranking” member of the organization, she’s not in a position to say no or to end the relationship without a fear of consequences.

I’m not sure how releasing her name would solve anything.

And as for equal rights, females who are “higher ranking” can be reprimanded for sleeping with subordinates, but most of the time it’s men who are abusing their power, and blaming/outing subordinates isn’t the correct culture.

This whole attitude of “what’s the big deal, it was consensual?” Or “It was consensual, let’s out the woman because women say they want “equal rights,” or “idgaf if I’m the Celtics,” leads to situations like what happened to Vanessa Guillen.

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[God Squad]

Yooooo Udoka a horny MF

[TheGOATWill]

Udoka had at least two on the side and still put on a coaching masterclass? Respect on his name please.

[dlts20]

I just woke up and saw this on undisputed. Can someone help me understand because I don't get it. It doesn't ses like there was no abuse, no manipulation, everything was consensual between adults, etc. If I'm in the Celtics brass idgaf about this. If it's wrong then give him 20 games but the season?

It goes against the Celtics code of conduct, and if it was with a “lower ranking” individual, that individual isn’t in a position to say no or to end the relationship without fear of consequences.

Where do you draw the line and with what consequences? I don’t think Mark Cuban had a policy like this for most of his ownership, and several female employees felt objectified and sexually harassed and now the reputation of Cuban and the Mavs is forever tainted.

But that's my point. I just don't think that it's cool to assume something bad will come of it. Dallas and the Washington Commanders, or even De'Shaun Watson were creepy pervert situations. They were harassing, pressuring, etc. This genuinely seems like a man and woman just genuinely liking each other and having a consensual relationship.

I'm the type of guy who can be with a woman, it doesn't work out, and I literally won't hold anything against her. I'm not going to keep her from a job or anything. Ime strikes me as the same. Now a lot of women get emotional and may accuse you of not getting a job because we had a relationship but again, that's just pre assuming and I don't think that is fair to either party.

Don't get me twisted, I know that this is policy and he was well aware but I'm a man and policy is not going to make me turn down a beautiful female. You have to fire me... Lol

[enigmatics]

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Shocker Stephen A. would go there. SHOCKER.

The Celtics having policy regarding this behavior has absolutely jack squat to do with how a demographic of people may or may not behave in their professional lives.