The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls

[gottamakeit]

You would understand... if you weren't a Lakers fan

I could say the exact same thing. To think that Lakers fans are the only one biased is absurd. The amount of times posters are exposed for wrong and absurd takes blinded by their Laker hate is insanely high on this forum

To be clear i'm not calling out any fan group for being biased (that's what we are by definition, fanatics) NOR do i hate (all) Lakers fans. I'm calling out the bias in refereeing.
As fans, our biases only matter when we try to have a discussion about the game we love.

[Up-And-Coming]

You would understand... if you weren't a Lakers fan

I could say the exact same thing. To think that Lakers fans are the only one biased is absurd. The amount of times posters are exposed for wrong and absurd takes blinded by their Laker hate is insanely high on this forum

To be clear i'm not calling any fan group biased NOR do i hate (all) Lakers fans. I'm calling out the bias in refereeing.
As fans, our biases only matter when we try to have a discussion about the game we love.

And I'm calling out fanbases revisionist history and perception of bias, even in regards to refereeing which at times in retrospect has been proven wrong. Are there bad and wrong calls? Of course there are and believe it or not they have gone both ways too.

To misconstrue the media/morning sports talk show segments about what adjustments the Lakers can make to get back in a series against the Nuggets as Adam Silver and the media "rigging" it is absurd, especially considering it was a sweep. This victim mentality and narrative that every victory over the Lakers is that much more impressive as it's always in spite of all kinds of handicaps is laughable. If they truly believe that, it will benefit them immensely to stop watching the NBA.

If they insist it's because they enjoy the game of basketball then there's countless of other professional basketball leagues to watch that they can enjoy much more without all the stress of "manufactured" products and success

[Whole Truth]

The short answer to why watch is because you still love the game, and it's entertaining. And you can still believe in the illusion of fair competition until the rigged - ness becomes too blatant.

It's a loaded question. He's telling people to spite their own interest because of things they cannot control.

He's basically telling you to shut up & like it or leave.

the other point that has to be made is that, not all games are called unfairly. Plenty of good competitive games take place where you fall in love with the competition. And then you tune into poorly refereed games and it takes away from it ALL. Because seeing the biases makes you question everything.

There's to many things I could say that would be time consuming. 'll sum it up like this & make a couple examples.

If you had a billion dollar business would you leave things up to chance ?

NBA makes sure teams don't go down big if they can help it. Teams that are getting wrecked start getting calls so people don't tune out of a blow out games, then the other team gets calls when the game becomes competitive enough, which is why you get that feeling you can not break a barrier at a certain point of a comeback, ensuring the correct team wins & sometimes the momentum of closing a big lead cannot be stopped.

Superstar call vs rookie earning his stripes, is popularity based not rule based, it's not experience vs inexperience as rules called correctly, cannot differentiate the fact. 50/50 calls in bias is not 50/50

What is the Allstar game = popularity contest, fan vote. Who do you want to see. Let us know.

[KembaWalker]

The NBA is about as authentic as a Taco Bell chalupa. It's a vehicle to sell shoes or vacuum mentally ill people's wallets on draft kings. I urge you all to find a hobby that is less pathetic, predatory, and commercial. Least forgiveable of all, the bits of competitive basketball they do manage to fit in between the ads is at an all time low in watchability. It's just complete trash from top to bottom, and your limited time on this earth is worth more

[wco81]

In tonight’s Nets at Lakers game in the third quarter Reeves dribbles down below the left elbow, picks up the dribble and pump fakes.

Then he pivots and takes two steps like he’s going up for a layup and tries a running floater going left to right across the lane.

So he picks up the dribble, pump fakes a short jumper and then takes two steps.

Well at least he didn’t get a foul call and go to the line but when you can travel like that and not get called for it, there shouldn’t be much contact.

Unbelievable.

[CpttCanada]

How bad of a team would LeBron's Lakers be without the whistle in his favor the entire time? It is just disgusting and horrible for the league that they allow this crap to continue.

[wco81]

38 made free throws for the Lakers on 43 attempts.

11 made free throws for the Warriors out of 16 attempts.

Curry, 3-3 from the FT line.

Austin Reaves, 8-9 from the FT line.

DLo, 7-7 from the FT line.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401585278


I know, Curry doesn't drive at all, while AR and DLo are taking it to the rack all the time.

Warriors outshot the Lakers not just from 3 but FG overall. FT more than makes up for it.

[AmIWrongDude]

38 made free throws for the Lakers on 43 attempts.

11 made free throws for the Warriors out of 16 attempts.

Curry, 3-3 from the FT line.

Austin Reaves, 8-9 from the FT line.

DLo, 7-7 from the FT line.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401585278


I know, Curry doesn't drive at all, while AR and DLo are taking it to the rack all the time.

Warriors outshot the Lakers not just from 3 but FG overall. FT more than makes up for it.

And how many 3’s did the Warriors take compared to the Lakers? Box score watchers want refs to just create foul calls from thin air

[FrobeBryant]

38 made free throws for the Lakers on 43 attempts.

11 made free throws for the Warriors out of 16 attempts.

Curry, 3-3 from the FT line.

Austin Reaves, 8-9 from the FT line.

DLo, 7-7 from the FT line.

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401585278


I know, Curry doesn't drive at all, while AR and DLo are taking it to the rack all the time.

Warriors outshot the Lakers not just from 3 but FG overall. FT more than makes up for it.

Here we go again…

[zimpy27]

Lakers were actually robbed a couple calls that would have had them win in overtime and regulation.

This is the difference between those that watch the game and those that watch the box scores

[PistolPeteJR]

People don’t seem to realize that with every word they utter, a picture is painted of them. It baffles my mind how much people can say something without having exercised any critical thinking when it comes to why certain things are what they are. Instead, emotions take over, riots ensue.

Just absurd.

[levon]

10 of those free throws were intentional fouls+Draymond foul at the end. Might've actually been 12 if you count differently.

The irony of Warriors fans complaining about calls is Draymond is allowed 8 fouls + 1 free flagrant + 1 tech every game to keep the gilded "dynasty" on national television. Coached by a fake righteous guy that is well aware he's last in the league in raw free throw differential and the Lakers are first because they play diametrically different styles.

And the only way certain Warriors fans can comprehend what's going on with their aging core and mid young players is by holding in conspiracy posts like farts until they play the Lakers in high-leverage games.

[wco81]

10 of those free throws were intentional fouls+Draymond foul at the end. Might've actually been 12 if you count differently.

The irony of Warriors fans complaining about calls is Draymond is allowed 8 fouls + 1 free flagrant + 1 tech every game to keep the gilded "dynasty" on national television. Coached by a fake righteous guy that is well aware he's last in the league in raw free throw differential and the Lakers are first because they play diametrically different styles.

And the only way certain Warriors fans can comprehend what's going on with their aging core and mid young players is by holding in conspiracy posts like farts until they play the Lakers in high-leverage games.

Oh sure, but don't address Dlo and AR getting 2 and 3 times the free throws of Curry. Who NEVER drives to the basket of course.

See all the scratches on his shoulders and arms? No harm no foul!


And it's not just the Warriors, Lakers got this one-sided officiating last season against all teams and looks like they're going to make sure Lakers get into the playoffs even when they're outshot.

Who needs shooters when you can just take FTs?

Lakers fans so triggered when obvious disparities are pointed out. It's only math fellas!

[levon]

10 of those free throws were intentional fouls+Draymond foul at the end. Might've actually been 12 if you count differently.

The irony of Warriors fans complaining about calls is Draymond is allowed 8 fouls + 1 free flagrant + 1 tech every game to keep the gilded "dynasty" on national television. Coached by a fake righteous guy that is well aware he's last in the league in raw free throw differential and the Lakers are first because they play diametrically different styles.

And the only way certain Warriors fans can comprehend what's going on with their aging core and mid young players is by holding in conspiracy posts like farts until they play the Lakers in high-leverage games.

Oh sure, but don't address Dlo and AR getting 2 and 3 times the free throws of Curry. Who NEVER drives to the basket of course.

See all the scratches on his shoulders and arms? No harm no foul!


And it's not just the Warriors, Lakers got this one-sided officiating last season against all teams and looks like they're going to make sure Lakers get into the playoffs even when they're outshot.

Who needs shooters when you can just take FTs?

Lakers fans so triggered when obvious disparities are pointed out. It's only math fellas!

You don't trigger me. I just like pointing out low-effort toxic garbage when I see it. It's nothing personal and it's not even unique to basketball.

Stay in your cozy echo chamber to justify why your team sucks. It happens to the best of teams.

[JRoy]

There is a reason this is a topic and it isn’t because this is an echo chamber.

[wco81]

Warriors suck but Lakers go to the foul line more against all teams, so come up with a better argument than "your team sucks, that is why the Lakers got almost more FTs."

Yeah Lakers beat a team that sucks by one point, despite being +27 from the FT line.

But don't worry, league will make sure the Lakers make it, probably to the WCF again. Enjoy the free ride, to the FT line that is!

[levon]

Warriors suck but Lakers go to the foul line more against all teams, so come up with a better argument than "your team sucks, that is why the Lakers got almost more FTs."

Yeah Lakers beat a team that sucks by one point, despite being +27 from the FT line.

But don't worry, league will make sure the Lakers make it, probably to the WCF again. Enjoy the free ride, to the FT line that is!

Go back and watch the tape.

I remember when the Scottie Barnes tape came out and people were like ... uh these aren't fouls? And then Raps fans came back like, "but you don't understand, the Lakers get the ticky tack fouls!" And then people were like, okay so where's that tape? And some poor dweeb had to go back to compile that video and it never came out. And it never came out because that person realized there were no unforgivable transgressions that occurred. Then two games later the Lakers went -15 on a free throw differential with the softest calls going for Sexton and Clarkson and nobody in the NBA world made a peep.

This thread is a thread because of confirmation bias, casuals, and toxic internet hive mind. The Lakers leading in one statistical category must be a conspiracy. The team giving up the most 3s and the highest percentage on them doesn't foul a lot. Conspiracy.

Form an original opinion.

[perempe20]

Was LeBron's last bucket a travel?

[AussieCeltic]

Warriors suck but Lakers go to the foul line more against all teams, so come up with a better argument than "your team sucks, that is why the Lakers got almost more FTs."

Yeah Lakers beat a team that sucks by one point, despite being +27 from the FT line.

But don't worry, league will make sure the Lakers make it, probably to the WCF again. Enjoy the free ride, to the FT line that is!

Go back and watch the tape.

I remember when the Scottie Barnes tape came out and people were like ... uh these aren't fouls? And then Raps fans came back like, "but you don't understand, the Lakers get the ticky tack fouls!" And then people were like, okay so where's that tape? And some poor dweeb had to go back to compile that video and it never came out. And it never came out because that person realized there were no unforgivable transgressions that occurred. Then two games later the Lakers went -15 on a free throw differential with the softest calls going for Sexton and Clarkson and nobody in the NBA world made a peep.

This thread is a thread because of confirmation bias, casuals, and toxic internet hive mind. The Lakers leading in one statistical category must be a conspiracy. The team giving up the most 3s and the highest percentage on them doesn't foul a lot. Conspiracy.

Form an original opinion.

Calling people casuals when there has been statistics and analysis to back up the allegation it’s comical especially when most Lakers fans excuse is “but Ham instructs them not to foul”.

This thread was created because their FT differential was at an historic high for the last 3 months of the season. Literally the highest we’ve ever seen in NBA history and 2nd wasn’t even close.

Look, they’ve come back down to a more “normal” number now with only a +5.0 FTA differential which is half of what it was for the last 4 months of last season and first 2 months of this season. But they still lead the league by over 1.4 FTA.

They’re still 29th in the league in drives, 20th in paint touches per game and 16th in shots within 9 feet of the basket.

But sure, they just miraculously don’t foul teams and somehow get to the foul line a lot while not attacking the basket as much as other teams.

If you can’t see that run last year was grossly manufactured, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

[levon]

Warriors suck but Lakers go to the foul line more against all teams, so come up with a better argument than "your team sucks, that is why the Lakers got almost more FTs."

Yeah Lakers beat a team that sucks by one point, despite being +27 from the FT line.

But don't worry, league will make sure the Lakers make it, probably to the WCF again. Enjoy the free ride, to the FT line that is!

Go back and watch the tape.

I remember when the Scottie Barnes tape came out and people were like ... uh these aren't fouls? And then Raps fans came back like, "but you don't understand, the Lakers get the ticky tack fouls!" And then people were like, okay so where's that tape? And some poor dweeb had to go back to compile that video and it never came out. And it never came out because that person realized there were no unforgivable transgressions that occurred. Then two games later the Lakers went -15 on a free throw differential with the softest calls going for Sexton and Clarkson and nobody in the NBA world made a peep.

This thread is a thread because of confirmation bias, casuals, and toxic internet hive mind. The Lakers leading in one statistical category must be a conspiracy. The team giving up the most 3s and the highest percentage on them doesn't foul a lot. Conspiracy.

Form an original opinion.

Calling people casuals when there has been statistics and analysis to back up the allegation it’s comical especially when most Lakers fans excuse is “but Ham instructs them not to foul”.

This thread was created because their FT differential was at an historic high for the last 3 months of the season. Literally the highest we’ve ever seen in NBA history and 2nd wasn’t even close.

Look, they’ve come back down to a more “normal” number now with only a +5.0 FTA differential which is half of what it was for the last 4 months of last season and first 2 months of this season. But they still lead the league by over 1.4 FTA.

They’re still 29th in the league in drives, 20th in paint touches per game and 16th in shots within 9 feet of the basket.

But sure, they just miraculously don’t foul teams and somehow get to the foul line a lot while not attacking the basket as much as other teams.

If you can’t see that run last year was grossly manufactured, then I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

Last year's run was grossly manufactured. Now go to sleep. I don't want to do this dance with you for the 100th time. You're selling slop that you think is gold, and people love to eat up the slop.

You're welcome to track plays on Laker games and note the crimes being committed in broad daylight. Then you and I can compare notes on opposite ends of the bias spectrum and come to a reasonable consensus. Until then, it's all reactionary cherrypicking macro-stats to support an argument that you already believe a priori.