RGM GOAT Debate Thread

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Who Is officially the all time goat!? Only have 10 slots Poll. 2024/5 season

Jordan
369
63%
Lebron
123
21%
B. Russell
21
4%
Kobe
10
2%
Kareem
16
3%
Magic
3
1%
Jokic
13
2%
Curry
9
2%
Duncan
8
1%
Other Insert comment goat debate
14
2%
 
Total votes: 586

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Re: Official RGM GOAT Debate Thread 

Post#281 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:32 pm

One_and_Done wrote:In 10 years when people look back Lebron will be remembered more fondly as the obvious GOAT. His 45k+ points and 13k+ rebounds and 13k+ assists will help too.



Ah yes, collecting stats over actually winning. I thought competing in sports was/is about actually winning. Proving your greatness by outplaying the other teams, not just putting numbers on the board. This fascination with stats that some of you young guys have is wild to me.
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Post#282 » by One_and_Done » Sat Jul 20, 2024 1:55 pm

MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:In 10 years when people look back Lebron will be remembered more fondly as the obvious GOAT. His 45k+ points and 13k+ rebounds and 13k+ assists will help too.



Ah yes, collecting stats over actually winning. I thought competing in sports was/is about actually winning. Proving your greatness by outplaying the other teams, not just putting numbers on the board. This fascination with stats that some of you young guys have is wild to me.

Lebron is a bigger winner than Jordan, he just faced tougher teams in a tougher era with less help. If Jordan played today nobody would think he was the GOAT. I doubt he'd even be the best player in the league.
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Post#283 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:00 pm

One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:In 10 years when people look back Lebron will be remembered more fondly as the obvious GOAT. His 45k+ points and 13k+ rebounds and 13k+ assists will help too.



Ah yes, collecting stats over actually winning. I thought competing in sports was/is about actually winning. Proving your greatness by outplaying the other teams, not just putting numbers on the board. This fascination with stats that some of you young guys have is wild to me.

Lebron is a bigger winner than Jordan, he just faced tougher teams in a tougher era with less help. If Jordan played today nobody would think he was the GOAT. I doubt he'd even be the best player in the league.



Lol bigger winner and less help?? Both of those are incredibly inaccurate which goes along with 99.9% of what you post on here. I can provide factual evidence if you like….
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Post#284 » by One_and_Done » Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:27 pm

Pretty sure this has been extensively litigated already in other threads.
Warspite wrote:Billups was a horrible scorer who could only score with an open corner 3 or a FT.
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Post#285 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:32 pm

One_and_Done wrote:Pretty sure this has been extensively litigated already in other threads.


And pretty sure you are wrong based off of facts…..james can be your goat but he played with more talent and won less in comparison to Jordan. There are facts and there is what you want to believe. You can believe what you want to believe but dont confuse it with facts.
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Post#286 » by One_and_Done » Sat Jul 20, 2024 2:49 pm

MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Pretty sure this has been extensively litigated already in other threads.


And pretty sure you are wrong based off of facts…..james can be your goat but he played with more talent and won less in comparison to Jordan. There are facts and there is what you want to believe. You can believe what you want to believe but dont confuse it with facts.

Not a single Bulls team would have won a single title in the last decade plus.
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Post#287 » by Yank3525 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:16 pm

In ten years we will be debating Wemby vs Jordan. Bron is going to be an afterthought.
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Post#288 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:30 pm

One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Pretty sure this has been extensively litigated already in other threads.


And pretty sure you are wrong based off of facts…..james can be your goat but he played with more talent and won less in comparison to Jordan. There are facts and there is what you want to believe. You can believe what you want to believe but dont confuse it with facts.

Not a single Bulls team would have won a single title in the last decade plus.


Ok provide facts, not your opinion, on this. Facts…..ill wait….
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Post#289 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 3:45 pm

One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Pretty sure this has been extensively litigated already in other threads.


And pretty sure you are wrong based off of facts…..james can be your goat but he played with more talent and won less in comparison to Jordan. There are facts and there is what you want to believe. You can believe what you want to believe but dont confuse it with facts.

Not a single Bulls team would have won a single title in the last decade plus.



Im still waiting on those facts….
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Re: Official RGM GOAT Debate Thread 

Post#290 » by The Explorer » Sat Jul 20, 2024 5:24 pm

MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
And pretty sure you are wrong based off of facts…..james can be your goat but he played with more talent and won less in comparison to Jordan. There are facts and there is what you want to believe. You can believe what you want to believe but dont confuse it with facts.

Not a single Bulls team would have won a single title in the last decade plus.


Ok provide facts, not your opinion, on this. Facts…..ill wait….


Best not to feed the trolls...
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Post#291 » by MavsDirk41 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 6:14 pm

The Explorer wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Not a single Bulls team would have won a single title in the last decade plus.


Ok provide facts, not your opinion, on this. Facts…..ill wait….


Best not to feed the trolls...



Yea 100%. he disappeared like a fart in the wind when confronted with difficult stuff like “provide factual evidence”
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Post#292 » by SlimShady83 » Sat Jul 20, 2024 7:21 pm

Yank3525 wrote:In ten years we will be debating Wemby vs Jordan. Bron is going to be an afterthought.


I really hope Wemby has a healthy career and doesn't get plagued by Injuries, his such a likable guy - I mean his on the wrong team (spurs) should be my Lakers haha, but still hope he has a great career.
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Post#293 » by One_and_Done » Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:33 pm

MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
And pretty sure you are wrong based off of facts…..james can be your goat but he played with more talent and won less in comparison to Jordan. There are facts and there is what you want to believe. You can believe what you want to believe but dont confuse it with facts.

Not a single Bulls team would have won a single title in the last decade plus.


Ok provide facts, not your opinion, on this. Facts…..ill wait….

You mean like their garbage 3pt shooting and efficiency which wouldn't be tenable in today's league?
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Post#294 » by MavsDirk41 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 12:41 am

One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:Not a single Bulls team would have won a single title in the last decade plus.


Ok provide facts, not your opinion, on this. Facts…..ill wait….

You mean like their garbage 3pt shooting and efficiency which wouldn't be tenable in today's league?



Lmao yea im gonna guess you are about 18 with a response like that
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Post#295 » by ScrantonBulls » Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:29 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
Ok provide facts, not your opinion, on this. Facts…..ill wait….

You mean like their garbage 3pt shooting and efficiency which wouldn't be tenable in today's league?



Lmao yea im gonna guess you are about 18 with a response like that

Funny that you use this as some type of reasoning to invalidate what he's saying. You're older, but it doesn't stop you from regularly making horrendously awful arguments.
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Post#296 » by MavsDirk41 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:52 am

ScrantonBulls wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:You mean like their garbage 3pt shooting and efficiency which wouldn't be tenable in today's league?



Lmao yea im gonna guess you are about 18 with a response like that

Funny that you use this as some type of reasoning to invalidate what he's saying. You're older, but it doesn't stop you from regularly making horrendously awful arguments.



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Post#297 » by One_and_Done » Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:17 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
Ok provide facts, not your opinion, on this. Facts…..ill wait….

You mean like their garbage 3pt shooting and efficiency which wouldn't be tenable in today's league?



Lmao yea im gonna guess you are about 18 with a response like that

That sounds like an opinion, but I thought you only wanted facts.
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Post#298 » by MavsDirk41 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 2:27 am

One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:You mean like their garbage 3pt shooting and efficiency which wouldn't be tenable in today's league?



Lmao yea im gonna guess you are about 18 with a response like that

That sounds like an opinion, but I thought you only wanted facts.



You mention their 3 point shooting like basketball is only about 3 point shooting. Have you ever heard of defense? What about rebounding? What about offensive efficiency? Coaching? Veteran leadership?

You know…..basketball stuff like that? which most teams that are as successful as the 90s Bulls have/had?
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Post#299 » by One_and_Done » Mon Jul 22, 2024 3:14 am

MavsDirk41 wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
MavsDirk41 wrote:

Lmao yea im gonna guess you are about 18 with a response like that

That sounds like an opinion, but I thought you only wanted facts.



You mention their 3 point shooting like basketball is only about 3 point shooting. Have you ever heard of defense? What about rebounding? What about offensive efficiency? Coaching? Veteran leadership?

You know…..basketball stuff like that? which most teams that are as successful as the 90s Bulls have/had?

Alot of that sounds subjective to me.
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Post#300 » by SlimShady83 » Mon Jul 22, 2024 5:03 am

OK ... Ok Let's talk about something else can't we? Yikes.

Out side of Lebron/Jordan as your goats ... Who else Is up there? Let's get the ball rolling again, but outside of Lebron/Jordan :) ... Wilt, Bird, Shaq, Kareem, Hakeem, Oscar, Duncan, Kobe just to name a few... Doesn't have to be any of them, but let's go out side the norm of Lebron/Jordan, esp the last few posts above.
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