Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia

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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#281 » by eyeatoma » Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:23 pm

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NetsJets wrote:It’s the Olympics what special matchups do you need to that extent? You can’t find 5/6 minutes for Tatum and Halliburton?


We found plenty of minutes for him this game and the lead shrank because he’s a bad fit with all the different units with this team.

Hes not of use for this roster… in 2028 he’ll be essential to winning gold.


The lead shrank because Ant was a ball stopper and there were multiple really bad turnovers, none of which were from Tatum.

Some of you have an unhealthy obsession of blaming Tatum for everything.

Embiid didn’t hit a shot and flopped his way to a couple free throws. Not a peep.


He was also a huge reason the USA made the finals. Completely neutralized Jokic. What did Tatum do?
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#282 » by eyeatoma » Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:25 pm

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The lead shrank because Ant was a ball stopper and there were multiple really bad turnovers, none of which were from Tatum.

Some of you have an unhealthy obsession of blaming Tatum for everything.

Embiid didn’t hit a shot and flopped his way to a couple free throws. Not a peep.


They actually hit a jumpshot in the tournament. Like at least one. Tatum was so checked out that he resembled Wayoff P in his purest form.
If he had played more his reputation would habe suffered even more. Kerr actually protected him. Tatum can recharge his mind and be back to being a top15 player in the nba next season. That might still be enough to win another chip.


Ants never seen a shot he doesn’t like and was actively killing the flow of the offence for stretches throughout the tournament.

Being a top 15 player isn’t insult like you’re trying to make it out to be. Especially when you’ve accomplished more and won more than players in the top 5.



I'd say his team accomplished more. He had the benefit of one of the best run organisations, and well built teams through out his career. All the players who don't find success, many of them could only dream of having the help that Tatum has had through out his career. Put Tatum as the sole star having to carry, that team would most likely be lottery bound, or at best make the play in.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#283 » by eyeatoma » Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:27 pm

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Ants never seen a shot he doesn’t like and was actively killing the flow of the offence for stretches throughout the tournament.

Being a top 15 player isn’t insult like you’re trying to make it out to be. Especially when you’ve accomplished more and won more than players in the top 5.


It really was not meant to be an insult. I just like pointing out that Tatum is not one of the best players in the league and for my taste too many Celtics fans try to push this agenda of him being on the same level as the best of the best in the NBA.
It is not enough for them to have one of the best teams (and the best las season). They desperately want to also have a true superstar on their team and get really antsy and aggressive when people point out the obvious that Tatum is not that kind of player.

I called him the most decorated waterboy of all time in context of these Olympics. And objectively that might really be true.


It wasn’t meant to be an insult, but that’s the way it was framed. Especially when you add comments like waterboy.

Most Celtics fans I speak to understand JT isn’t on the same level as guys like Joker, Giannis and Luka but he’s definitely not as bad as some people make him out to be.

Maybe some Celtics fans think he’s a top player because history has told us that you need one to be successful in this league. Like to or not the Celtics have been one of the most successful teams since Tatum entered the league.

Acting like homerism is something unique to the Celtics fanbase is incredibly disingenuous. But that’s not something new to Celtics dialogue.

I see a lot of people call for the super team title. Since when do we have superteams led by a top 15 player? There are teams in the league with multiple top 10 players that aren’t called superteams. The Celtics have some very good players that you would probably rank 15-50. There are many teams like this in the league, are they superteams?

If Tatum isn’t a top player and is closer to 15 than 10. Why is there so much pressure on him to win? Look back at the media throughout the season and the threads on here. People were calling him a failure for not winning by age 26.

There are multiple players in the consensus top 5 that have never been out of the second round. Who have also played on stacked teams with All Star and MVP teammates.

If the backlash against Tatum is because some people on the internet think he’s better than he is then I would say you’re probably going looking for it. Th


He is a league and media manufactured star, hence the so called pressure. ESPN needs a narrative. Tatum has also made the finals and didn't win prior to this year, so hence the pressure, I'd say the pressure was more on the Celtics team as a whole though, which they were able to dismiss with one of the easiest run of opponents in NBA history.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#286 » by RB34 » Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:53 pm

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It really was not meant to be an insult. I just like pointing out that Tatum is not one of the best players in the league and for my taste too many Celtics fans try to push this agenda of him being on the same level as the best of the best in the NBA.
It is not enough for them to have one of the best teams (and the best las season). They desperately want to also have a true superstar on their team and get really antsy and aggressive when people point out the obvious that Tatum is not that kind of player.

I called him the most decorated waterboy of all time in context of these Olympics. And objectively that might really be true.


It wasn’t meant to be an insult, but that’s the way it was framed. Especially when you add comments like waterboy.

Most Celtics fans I speak to understand JT isn’t on the same level as guys like Joker, Giannis and Luka but he’s definitely not as bad as some people make him out to be.

Maybe some Celtics fans think he’s a top player because history has told us that you need one to be successful in this league. Like to or not the Celtics have been one of the most successful teams since Tatum entered the league.

Acting like homerism is something unique to the Celtics fanbase is incredibly disingenuous. But that’s not something new to Celtics dialogue.

I see a lot of people call for the super team title. Since when do we have superteams led by a top 15 player? There are teams in the league with multiple top 10 players that aren’t called superteams. The Celtics have some very good players that you would probably rank 15-50. There are many teams like this in the league, are they superteams?

If Tatum isn’t a top player and is closer to 15 than 10. Why is there so much pressure on him to win? Look back at the media throughout the season and the threads on here. People were calling him a failure for not winning by age 26.

There are multiple players in the consensus top 5 that have never been out of the second round. Who have also played on stacked teams with All Star and MVP teammates.

If the backlash against Tatum is because some people on the internet think he’s better than he is then I would say you’re probably going looking for it. Th


He is a league and media manufactured star, hence the so called pressure. ESPN needs a narrative. Tatum has also made the finals and didn't win prior to this year, so hence the pressure, I'd say the pressure was more on the Celtics team as a whole though, which they were able to dismiss with one of the easiest run of opponents in NBA history.


A league manufactured Star that has outplayed your boy individually on more than one occasion.

You continue to talk has though Tatum has played with HOFs his entire career, which why I’m convinced you don’t actually watch games or know anything about the Celtics.

You like to rely on the injury excuse but seem to forget about it completely when talking about the Celtics. Stacked teams that had Kyrie having surgery and GH snapping his ankle. Stacked teams when Tatum was in his first few years. Stacked teams with him and Brown, who realgm has told has no left hand and is garbage.

You have denigrated Celtics players for a long while now but they all turn into GOATs when you discuss Tatum.

Meanwhile, you’ve got MVP in his prime with an MVP in Harden and Jimmy Butler who many on this site believe is better than Tatum. What has he got to show for it? Second round exits.

Embiids best series win is beating a Siakam led Raps team and you want to talk about cakewalks. Tatum led his team to game 7 against the arguable GOAT in his rookie season. With sophomore Brown next to him. Now I know you have no idea what kind of player JB was when he entered the league so why don’t you go and check.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#287 » by Black Jack » Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:15 am

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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#288 » by Karate Diop » Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:32 am

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Right back at you, who should be be playing over? Can't think of anyone can you?


How about Anthony Edwards, Bam Adebayo, Derrick White, Jrue Holiday, and Devin Booker. He is better than all of these players so by my count he should be playing over at least 5 players right there.


100%, but they all fill necessary needs and roles on this team that Tatum doesn't. You can maybe make a case for him getting minutes over Edwards.


All of those guys defend better than Tatum, move the ball better than Tatum and provide more leadership and intangibles.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#289 » by dantas » Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:44 am

The Olympics came at a bad time for Tatum, after he was outshined by his friend, Jaylen Brown
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Wait, did Steve Kerr go Pusha T on Tatum and ruin the announcement of his kid to the world? Cold world lol
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Everyone’s over 60 TS% and Tatum is at 47 TS% :o
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Post#294 » by warriorschamps » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:14 am

Tatum is a good player but his jump shot is broke. How do you go 0-16 on jumpers in an entire Olympics? That seem almost impossible to do.

You could argue about whether Tatum should of played in any of the blowouts because Tatum missing jumpers wouldn't of mattered. But Kerr did the right thing in the close games of barely playing him. You don't want to put a guy out there you can't trust to make jump shots even if he is doing other things like rebounding when you have other options.
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Post#295 » by Crives » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:54 am

I think what we all need is to run this back in the all star game this year. I am sure Celtics media can help get 5 all star spots.

Steph vs White
Booker vs Jrue
KD vs Brown
Lebron vs Tatum
AD vs Zinger
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Post#296 » by FrodoFraggins » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:02 am

Zero minutes for any of the ten players is odd unless they are injured or ask out. But whatever.
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#297 » by KG Leonard » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:02 am

Crives wrote:I think what we all need is to run this back in the all star game this year. I am sure Celtics media can help get 5 all star spots.

Steph vs White
Booker vs Jrue
KD vs Brown
Lebron vs Tatum
AD vs Zinger


Who cares about this? USA won barely 10 points vs a 20 year old rookie, Gobert and the worst guards in the whole European basketball scene. It was a super team vs......

Tatum will find his usual levels and destroy yet again all the overhyped US players who aren't the old all-time greats like LeBron, Curry, KD. Knock on wood if there aren't too many injuries at Celtics. These media overhyped players like Embiid, Ant will get back to their reality after chilling on USA super team. Luka, Jokic, Tatum, Brown will put them out of playoffs yet again. :oops:
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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#298 » by SweaterBae » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:04 am

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Everyone’s over 60 TS% and Tatum is at 47 TS% :o


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Re: Jayson Tatum with another DNP vs Serbia 

Post#299 » by SweaterBae » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:05 am

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Crives wrote:I think what we all need is to run this back in the all star game this year. I am sure Celtics media can help get 5 all star spots.

Steph vs White
Booker vs Jrue
KD vs Brown
Lebron vs Tatum
AD vs Zinger


USA won


Cry harder.
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Post#300 » by Crives » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:15 am

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Crives wrote:I think what we all need is to run this back in the all star game this year. I am sure Celtics media can help get 5 all star spots.

Steph vs White
Booker vs Jrue
KD vs Brown
Lebron vs Tatum
AD vs Zinger


USA won


Cry harder.


Man I just want to watch this lineup again. Not going to lie was fun rooting for Steph.

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