Wembanyama, I'm concerned (Part 2)

[knicksfan974]

Incredible player. Decades watching the sport, seeing guys like MJ and Lebron tear up the league I had no expectations to see someone who could top them, but goddamn Wemby just might as well go all the way to being #1 all time.

[dbrog24]

I just watched the clip... it was so jaw-dropping, I think I injured my jaw.

How is that not taking over the league? Most dominant performance I've ever seen by a single player.

He made the Mavs look like a middle school team.

Wemby is literally looking like Wilt out there. From the defense where he blocks and recovers the ball, to the midrange fadaways, and looking like he's going up for a hook but dunks it instead. Like, seriously go watch any wilt highlights and it looks eerily similar. I cracked up when the announcers were talking about "it's like being 8 years old against your dad out there!"

[Bornstellar]

Is anyone not that impressed by Wembanyama? I think he's unfair but watching him play bores me.

When I see him do something crazy on court. I just think it looks too easy for him to find it impressive

Yeah man, it's so easy which is why every player his size has been doing these same moves for years

[KazuoOda]

Is anyone not that impressed by Wembanyama? I think he's unfair but watching him play bores me.

When I see him do something crazy on court. I just think it looks too easy for him to find it impressive

Yeah man, it's so easy which is why every player his size has been doing these same moves for years

Crazy take to have. Wemby is the most special player this league has ever seen. Idk how you can not be entertained watching him.

[hardenASG13]

Is anyone not that impressed by Wembanyama? I think he's unfair but watching him play bores me.

When I see him do something crazy on court. I just think it looks too easy for him to find it impressive

Yeah man, it's so easy which is why every player his size has been doing these same moves for years

Crazy take to have. Wemby is the most special player this league has ever seen. Idk how you can not be entertained watching him.

I dont get that either. Hes incredible to watch. I dont have a favorite team, but if I'm watching games and Spurs are playing, it's a no brainer who im tuning into. Wemby is one of if not the most entertaining player ive ever seen. I agree he's the most special player the league has seen, which is saying alot. It's not hyperbole or based on last night's game. It's been that way since day 1. What he did on both ends last night was remarkable though. Dallas' Frontline was shook, Flagg was in disbelief. Wemby shuts off the paint like nobody ive ever seen, by a mile.

[Klomp]

Man, ESPN was over the top this morning (shocker, I know). They are not going to go from not reaching 35 wins since before the pandemic to playing in the Finals. I get that anything can happen with matchups, but let's be real.

[RSP83]

Incredible player. Decades watching the sport, seeing guys like MJ and Lebron tear up the league I had no expectations to see someone who could top them, but goddamn Wemby just might as well go all the way to being #1 all time.

I'm an MJ guy, but I have to admit, Wemby is something out of this world. If that's (Mavs game) how he's going to continue to dominate the league going forward, I don't see how he's not #1 all time.

[zimpy27]

This is the Wemby everyone was pushing for, no 3-point shooting woke nonsense, but being aggressive instead of settling for fadeaway 3-pters. Finally!



It might become another tragedy as we've seen before with Garnett and LeBron.

There seems like there is absolute no vision when building around Wemby. All the complementary pieces around him have so far shown they are in fact not complementary at all.

I think Castle and Harper are good additions but young and not on Wemby's timeline.

Maybe they were waiting for this season. Maybe some moves happen midseason.

They're not on his timeline? Castle is like a year younger and Harper is only two. Wemby is 21 they'll be fine

Wemby is great right now, it's not about age

[Buckeye-NBAFan]

Spurs management?!? wtf are you on about. They have the best young core outside of OKC

Subtract Wemby, and their young core doesn't look at that impressive. Castle is good but can't shoot which caps his ceiling as a player. Harper is unproven but has the worst archetype in the game right now. Sochan can't shoot. Am I missing anyone?

Castle is fantastic, did you miss tonight’s game? Carter Bryant has a ton defensive potential, Harper looked great tonight, not even sure wtf you’re on about worst archetype when he plays like a 27 year old with his foot work and is incredible going downhill to the rim.

You don’t watch much Spurs and that’s cool, this team will be a title contender within 2 years.

Just to be clear, my concern is based on the lack of results over the last few years

1 game sample sizes aren't evidence of anything. They still have a lot to prove

[Klomp]

Why does Victor Wembanyama get to play on an 8-foot rim while every other player in the league is forced to use a standard 10-foot rim?

[WestGOAT]

I think Castle and Harper are good additions but young and not on Wemby's timeline.

Maybe they were waiting for this season. Maybe some moves happen midseason.

They're not on his timeline? Castle is like a year younger and Harper is only two. Wemby is 21 they'll be fine

Wemby is great right now, it's not about age

Exactly.. Wemby is probably good enough already to be an integral part of a title contender. If you have this kind a player you need to get the right pieces around him while that window is still open. It is not a given that Wemby will have Kareem like longevity or even stick to one team like Duncan did.

Players like Castle and Harper, if they actually become important pieces for a title contender, will take at least a couple more years to get there. And we are not even considering their lack of fit with Wemby.. None of them can space the floor for him reliably.

Spurs office are probably waiting to see which assets they can flip them for hopefully. Otherwise it's malpractice.

It might become another tragedy as we've seen before with Garnett and LeBron.

There seems like there is absolute no vision when building around Wemby. All the complementary pieces around him have so far shown they are in fact not complementary at all.

1) Spurs will be super legit this year already, they have star power, depth, defense, shooters, and ballhandlers.
2) Spurs have pretty great situation assets- and talent-wise for the future as both Castle and Harper looks better than we expected, really, based on preseason and this first game.

They're just in funny position long term with Fox - but Spurs didn't invest that much in him, so they'll be fine.

Which shooters are we talking about? They have a promising crop of ball-dominant young guards, but that has lead to a logjam there. They are talented but will need a couple of seasons before they are actually impactful, and I don't see necessarily see the synergy there with Wemby.

They are not contenders in this state.

[prime1time]

Man, ESPN was over the top this morning (shocker, I know). They are not going to go from not reaching 35 wins since before the pandemic to playing in the Finals. I get that anything can happen with matchups, but let's be real.

You're going to have to beat this guy 4 times in the playoffs. And you can't stop him. I understand the skepticism but people have to be realistic. Wemby shot 8.8 3's a game last year and averaged 4.1 free throws. Yesterday he attempted 2 3's and 11 free throws. Name the last player that changed his approach to basketball that much. Mavs have 6'10 AD and 7'3 Lively and they got smoked. He's a massive problem. And his presence makes the game easier for everyone else. They are firmly in title watch. And until I see someone stop him, I'm not taking anyone in the NBA over him in a 7 game series.

Plus they have a good team. Fox and Castle can attack the paint at will. Harper off the bench is a problem. I'm not a big fan of Barnes at the 4. I think they could really upgrade there.

[Klomp]

Man, ESPN was over the top this morning (shocker, I know). They are not going to go from not reaching 35 wins since before the pandemic to playing in the Finals. I get that anything can happen with matchups, but let's be real.

You're going to have to beat this guy 4 times in the playoffs. And you can't stop him. I understand the skepticism but people have to be realistic. Wemby shot 8.8 3's a game last year and averaged 4.1 free throws. Yesterday he attempted 2 3's and 11 free throws. Name the last player that changed his approach to basketball that much. Mavs have 6'10 AD and 7'3 Lively and they got smoked. He's a massive problem. And his presence makes the game easier for everyone else. They are firmly in title watch. And until I see someone stop him, I'm not taking anyone in the NBA over him in a 7 game series.

Plus they have a good team. Fox and Castle can attack the paint at will. Harper off the bench is a problem. I'm not a big fan of Barnes at the 4. I think they could really upgrade there.

Sorry, but I'm not sure I should be taking "title watch" advice from a Wizards fan....

You described Nikola Jokic, in many ways. He is beatable. So is Victor.

[Special_Puppy]

Man, ESPN was over the top this morning (shocker, I know). They are not going to go from not reaching 35 wins since before the pandemic to playing in the Finals. I get that anything can happen with matchups, but let's be real.

You're going to have to beat this guy 4 times in the playoffs. And you can't stop him. I understand the skepticism but people have to be realistic. Wemby shot 8.8 3's a game last year and averaged 4.1 free throws. Yesterday he attempted 2 3's and 11 free throws. Name the last player that changed his approach to basketball that much. Mavs have 6'10 AD and 7'3 Lively and they got smoked. He's a massive problem. And his presence makes the game easier for everyone else. They are firmly in title watch. And until I see someone stop him, I'm not taking anyone in the NBA over him in a 7 game series.

Plus they have a good team. Fox and Castle can attack the paint at will. Harper off the bench is a problem. I'm not a big fan of Barnes at the 4. I think they could really upgrade there.

You would definately take the Thunder over the Spurs to win the title. Come on

[prime1time]

They're not on his timeline? Castle is like a year younger and Harper is only two. Wemby is 21 they'll be fine

Wemby is great right now, it's not about age

Exactly.. Wemby is probably good enough already to be an integral part of a title contender. If you have this kind a player you need to get the right pieces around him while that window is still open. It is not a given that Wemby will have Kareem like longevity or even stick to one team like Duncan did.

Players like Castle and Harper, if they actually become important pieces for a title contender, will take at least a couple more years to get there. And we are not even considering their lack of fit with Wemby.. None of them can space the floor for him reliably.

Spurs office are probably waiting to see which assets they can flip them for hopefully. Otherwise it's malpractice.

It might become another tragedy as we've seen before with Garnett and LeBron.

There seems like there is absolute no vision when building around Wemby. All the complementary pieces around him have so far shown they are in fact not complementary at all.

1) Spurs will be super legit this year already, they have star power, depth, defense, shooters, and ballhandlers.
2) Spurs have pretty great situation assets- and talent-wise for the future as both Castle and Harper looks better than we expected, really, based on preseason and this first game.

They're just in funny position long term with Fox - but Spurs didn't invest that much in him, so they'll be fine.

Which shooters are we talking about? They have a promising crop of ball-dominant young guards, but that has lead to a logjam there. They are talented but will need a couple of seasons before they are actually impactful, and I don't see necessarily see the synergy there with Wemby.

They are not contenders in this state.

Lol, don't see the 'synergy' there. How much synergy do you need to see? This guy has the potential to be the GOAT offensive and Defensive player. You don't need perfect fits when you have a potential GOAT on your team. In the playoffs he's going to play 45 minutes plus. He was +31 yesterday in 30 minutes. When this team is locked in and attacking matchups fully utilizing Wemby to his max potential. I.e. running the offense through him or using him as a decoy every play, while also letting Wemby protect the paint and alter shots they will be very tough to beat.

The logjam of guards is irrelevant. What matters is they have talented guards. Is the roster perfect? No. But you don't need a perfect roster when you have a top 3/4 guy in the history of the NBA on your team.

[prime1time]

Man, ESPN was over the top this morning (shocker, I know). They are not going to go from not reaching 35 wins since before the pandemic to playing in the Finals. I get that anything can happen with matchups, but let's be real.

You're going to have to beat this guy 4 times in the playoffs. And you can't stop him. I understand the skepticism but people have to be realistic. Wemby shot 8.8 3's a game last year and averaged 4.1 free throws. Yesterday he attempted 2 3's and 11 free throws. Name the last player that changed his approach to basketball that much. Mavs have 6'10 AD and 7'3 Lively and they got smoked. He's a massive problem. And his presence makes the game easier for everyone else. They are firmly in title watch. And until I see someone stop him, I'm not taking anyone in the NBA over him in a 7 game series.

Plus they have a good team. Fox and Castle can attack the paint at will. Harper off the bench is a problem. I'm not a big fan of Barnes at the 4. I think they could really upgrade there.

You would definately take the Thunder over the Spurs to win the title. Come on

The same OKC that got taken to 7 games against the Pacers and the Nuggets? Lol.

[DwayneSchintzus]

i mean, he's not really a mix of ANYONE.

He's the best defensive player of all time. And he's doing stuff that no one else has ever done on offense because of his length, coordination, skill and mentality.

"Shaq/Durant offense with Dikembe defense" doesn't even cover it, honestly. Yes, Shaq was a LOT stronger and Durant a better shooter, but Wemby is unprecendented.

[WestGOAT]

Wemby is great right now, it's not about age

Exactly.. Wemby is probably good enough already to be an integral part of a title contender. If you have this kind a player you need to get the right pieces around him while that window is still open. It is not a given that Wemby will have Kareem like longevity or even stick to one team like Duncan did.

Players like Castle and Harper, if they actually become important pieces for a title contender, will take at least a couple more years to get there. And we are not even considering their lack of fit with Wemby.. None of them can space the floor for him reliably.

Spurs office are probably waiting to see which assets they can flip them for hopefully. Otherwise it's malpractice.

1) Spurs will be super legit this year already, they have star power, depth, defense, shooters, and ballhandlers.
2) Spurs have pretty great situation assets- and talent-wise for the future as both Castle and Harper looks better than we expected, really, based on preseason and this first game.

They're just in funny position long term with Fox - but Spurs didn't invest that much in him, so they'll be fine.

Which shooters are we talking about? They have a promising crop of ball-dominant young guards, but that has lead to a logjam there. They are talented but will need a couple of seasons before they are actually impactful, and I don't see necessarily see the synergy there with Wemby.

They are not contenders in this state.

Lol, don't see the 'synergy' there. How much synergy do you need to see? This guy has the potential to be the GOAT offensive and Defensive player. You don't need perfect fits when you have a potential GOAT on your team. In the playoffs he's going to play 45 minutes plus. He was +31 yesterday in 30 minutes. When this team is locked in and attacking matchups fully utilizing Wemby to his max potential. I.e. running the offense through him or using him as a decoy every play, while also letting Wemby protect the paint and alter shots they will be very tough to beat.

The logjam of guards is irrelevant. What matters is they have talented guards. Is the roster perfect? No. But you don't need a perfect roster when you have a top 3/4 guy in the history of the NBA on your team.

Just stop it, no one in the NBA has been able to win it by themselves

[The4thHorseman]

Wemby is great right now, it's not about age

Exactly.. Wemby is probably good enough already to be an integral part of a title contender. If you have this kind a player you need to get the right pieces around him while that window is still open. It is not a given that Wemby will have Kareem like longevity or even stick to one team like Duncan did.

Players like Castle and Harper, if they actually become important pieces for a title contender, will take at least a couple more years to get there. And we are not even considering their lack of fit with Wemby.. None of them can space the floor for him reliably.

Spurs office are probably waiting to see which assets they can flip them for hopefully. Otherwise it's malpractice.

1) Spurs will be super legit this year already, they have star power, depth, defense, shooters, and ballhandlers.
2) Spurs have pretty great situation assets- and talent-wise for the future as both Castle and Harper looks better than we expected, really, based on preseason and this first game.

They're just in funny position long term with Fox - but Spurs didn't invest that much in him, so they'll be fine.

Which shooters are we talking about? They have a promising crop of ball-dominant young guards, but that has lead to a logjam there. They are talented but will need a couple of seasons before they are actually impactful, and I don't see necessarily see the synergy there with Wemby.

They are not contenders in this state.

Lol, don't see the 'synergy' there. How much synergy do you need to see? This guy has the potential to be the GOAT offensive and Defensive player. You don't need perfect fits when you have a potential GOAT on your team. In the playoffs he's going to play 45 minutes plus. He was +31 yesterday in 30 minutes. When this team is locked in and attacking matchups fully utilizing Wemby to his max potential. I.e. running the offense through him or using him as a decoy every play, while also letting Wemby protect the paint and alter shots they will be very tough to beat.

The logjam of guards is irrelevant. What matters is they have talented guards. Is the roster perfect? No. But you don't need a perfect roster when you have a top 3/4 guy in the history of the NBA on your team.

prepare to be disappointed cause that ain't happenin

[ShootersShoot]

Hes basically the 7'4 big man version of KD, or like a hybrid version of AD/KD.

Hes the player some 12 year old created in a video game to dominate unfairly.