2025 Las Vegas Summer League (July 10-20)

tugs · Post #281 » by **tugs** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:03 am

Collier making a mess the last few possessions. Clayton Jr. benched is baffling

tugs · Post #282 » by **tugs** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:04 am

Loose ball and Collier was complaining to the ref for a travel instead of scrambling for the possession. This is infuriating

tugs · Post #283 » by **tugs** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:06 am

azcatz11 wrote:
Rauxcee wrote:Is it too soon to call Cody Williams a bust? He is the most invisible young player I've ever seen.

As others have stated - he was drafted only because of his brother. He did have a good HS career but he was trash in college. Ace Bailey got a bad rap and Williams was 10 fold worse. I actually believe he’s the worst player in nba history

Good couple of aggressive drives but you can seen how tentative he is still and unpolished with his handles. Had he been drafted later, this wouldn't be much of an issue

amcoolio · Post #284 » by **amcoolio** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:10 am

So... Liam McNeeley... 22 points, 12 rebounds, 6 assists...played well on both ends, looked like Gordon Hayward on the court. Lived up to his high school billing, maybe he is better made for the NBA than UConn

JimmyPlopper · Post #285 » by **JimmyPlopper** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:12 am

So I didn't really understand this aspect of Liam McNeeley's game:
He's actually got incredible court vision, and is at his best when he gets to handle the ball on a fast break, because he has good passing, but commands attention because of the threat of slashing to the rim. He can get a defensive rebound, and start the fast break as a point forward no problem.

Post #286 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:12 am

Flip is showing exactly what you want to see by a 2nd year rookie. Watching him out there, really all I can think is, ya he’s too good for SL now.

I love Kon, but no clue how he was a top 5 pick. I didn’t even think he was a top 20 guy. And today is kind of the exact reason why I thought that. I just have no idea how he’s going to be a star in the league when he’s just so limited athletically.

JimmyPlopper · Post #287 » by **JimmyPlopper** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:15 am

tugs wrote:Collier making a mess the last few possessions. Clayton Jr. benched is baffling

Clayton Jr has the mindset of a true point guard. Collier is very athletic, but unpredictable. I think based on that, it makes a little more sense to have Clayton Jr as a starter with Collier coming off the bench for a punch of energy.

knicksfan974 · Post #288 » by **knicksfan974** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:20 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Flip is showing exactly what you want to see by a 2nd year rookie. Watching him out there, really all I can think is, ya he’s too good for SL now.

I love Kon, but no clue how he was a top 5 pick. I didn’t even think he was a top 20 guy. And today is kind of the exact reason why I thought that. I just have no idea how he’s going to be a star in the league when he’s just so limited athletically.

Looks like such a reach at #4. Don't understand it at all for the Hornets.

azcatz11 · Post #289 » by **azcatz11** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:23 am

Maluach looks good so far. He’s moving exceptionally well

azcatz11 · Post #290 » by **azcatz11** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:24 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Flip is showing exactly what you want to see by a 2nd year rookie. Watching him out there, really all I can think is, ya he’s too good for SL now.

I love Kon, but no clue how he was a top 5 pick. I didn’t even think he was a top 20 guy. And today is kind of the exact reason why I thought that. I just have no idea how he’s going to be a star in the league when he’s just so limited athletically.

There is a poster on the draft board who had him #1 on his big board.

RookieStar · Post #291 » by **RookieStar** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:29 am

High IQ play by Tre against KM there..

LAvision · Post #292 » by **LAvision** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:29 am

Tre is looking nice. This wizs should be fun to watch next year.

FrightCoward · Post #293 » by **FrightCoward** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:33 am

tugs wrote:Collier making a mess the last few possessions. Clayton Jr. benched is baffling

Turns out he had a hamstring injury, which is why you didn’t see him down the stretch. Bummer, he was getting better each game.

Mr Puddles · Post #294 » by **Mr Puddles** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 1:58 am

Is there a prettier shot in the league than Brea right now?

rockmanslim · Post #295 » by **rockmanslim** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:10 am

Was that a Troop reference in the Raps Bulls game?

Yallbecrazy · Post #296 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:17 am

azcatz11 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Flip is showing exactly what you want to see by a 2nd year rookie. Watching him out there, really all I can think is, ya he’s too good for SL now.

I love Kon, but no clue how he was a top 5 pick. I didn’t even think he was a top 20 guy. And today is kind of the exact reason why I thought that. I just have no idea how he’s going to be a star in the league when he’s just so limited athletically.

There is a poster on the draft board who had him #1 on his big board.

Forget where I had him, but it was definitely top 5

Post #297 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:36 am

Dillon Brooks is a rough looking dude with his hair down. I didn’t even recognize him until his name was on screen.

Post #298 » by **Diop** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:49 am

azcatz11 wrote:
Rauxcee wrote:Is it too soon to call Cody Williams a bust? He is the most invisible young player I've ever seen.

As others have stated - he was drafted only because of his brother. He did have a good HS career but he was trash in college. Ace Bailey got a bad rap and Williams was 10 fold worse. I actually believe he’s the worst player in nba history

Jesus H Christ thats a strong take :lol:

XTC · Post #299 » by **XTC** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 2:57 am

azcatz11 wrote:Maluach looks good so far. He’s moving exceptionally well

Maluach looks like the same guy he was at Duke. He looked lost defensively. Being out position and being able to recovers, works at the college level, but NBA players are going to eat him alive.

That plus the lack of athleticism really stick out to me. I stick by my assesment from day 1, kid is going to be a bust.

Im not a fan.

DusterBuster · Post #300 » by **DusterBuster** » Sat Jul 12, 2025 3:11 am

My first (and so far only) overreaction take of Summer League... The Wizards have a new star in Tre.

I'm putting some money on him for ROY.