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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#281 » by Dez » Thu Dec 4, 2025 10:21 am

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Dez wrote:So the Clippers were upset he told them the truth that they suck and they cut him?


players didn't really respect him or cared about having him there, because if players cared then FO doesn't go around cutting him in this manner and risk more chemistry issues. Dude basically went around rubbing everyone the wrong way. What he said doesn't matter if he said it in a way that nobody wanted to hear.


They have a prehistoric roster and are 5-16, the Clippers obviously can't handle hard truths.
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Post#282 » by salmonleg » Thu Dec 4, 2025 10:40 am

CP didn’t wear out his welcome numerous times because of the message he was sending, it was the delivery. Top tier leaders don’t have that problem. He always has. He never learned to deliver the hard truth to people without being an **** about it. That’s gotta wear on anyone no matter his past accomplishments.
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#283 » by Airmiess » Thu Dec 4, 2025 11:22 am

Sad end, I don't think he deserves it.
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#284 » by scrabbarista » Thu Dec 4, 2025 1:01 pm

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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#285 » by og15 » Thu Dec 4, 2025 1:20 pm

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Dez wrote:So the Clippers were upset he told them the truth that they suck and they cut him?


players didn't really respect him or cared about having him there, because if players cared then FO doesn't go around cutting him in this manner and risk more chemistry issues. Dude basically went around rubbing everyone the wrong way. What he said doesn't matter if he said it in a way that nobody wanted to hear.


They have a prehistoric roster and are 5-16, the Clippers obviously can't handle hard truths.

That record is 6-16 to you dear sir


atlantabbq99 wrote:As a Hawks fan, i realize about a year ago that not drafting CP3 was a good thing, or not so bad.

If Atlanta drafted Paul, it wouldn't have resulted in any championships or MVPs. CP3 is just a stats guy that didn't really do much for winning.

He can't win, but he also has a very well know reputation of being toxic and a locker room cancer.

I thought that when Chris Paul left, he would go out like John Stockton, as maybe the best PG to never win a Championship, but now with all of his ex teammates and coaches now coming out and saying how petty and toxic and what a low life he is, Paul will probably go out as forgotten and with no hall of fame votes.
Disagree, actually a great guy for winning, he's small and has limitations due to that and also had injury issues, but CP has definitely been a winning player. He's helped 3 franchises to their best regular season records, you don't just coincidentally be there when there franchises have their best years. He's helped young players in multiple stops understand better the attention to detail and focus needed to win.

He's a winning player, but he's also not an easy personality, but he's not even one of the tougher ones we've had, guys like Kobe and Jordan would make what you're calling toxic from CP look pale. The thing is that it gets tolerated when you win it all or are able to win it all because of the results. Two people can do the exact same thing, and one is seen as a winner for it because they are better, and they won, and the other seen differently.

It's basically this, when an unattractive person hits on someone the same way as an attractive person, one is considered creepy and the other is considered sweet and cute.

Paul's more direct way of leading can wear on a team over tome if they don't have the success they desire, but don't get it twisted thinking he's the level of some guys who were seriously next level jerks as teammates, and don't mix that up with whether he's a positive player for winning and having a culture of winning, he 100% is.
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#286 » by scrabbarista » Thu Dec 4, 2025 1:23 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:As a Hawks fan, i realize about a year ago that not drafting CP3 was a good thing, or not so bad.

If Atlanta drafted Paul, it wouldn't have resulted in any championships or MVPs. CP3 is just a stats guy that didn't really do much for winning.

He can't win, but he also has a very well know reputation of being toxic and a locker room cancer.

I thought that when Chris Paul left, he would go out like John Stockton, as maybe the best PG to never win a Championship, but now with all of his ex teammates and coaches now coming out and saying how petty and toxic and what a low life he is, Paul will probably go out as forgotten and with no hall of fame votes.


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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#287 » by PistolPeteJR » Thu Dec 4, 2025 1:27 pm

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G R E Y wrote:
PistolPeteJR wrote:Lue has to be held accountable to some degree here for refusing to meet with Paul, if the report is true.

That said, Frank has to go. Too much smoke from numerous players.

After that, Kawhi. If your supposed franchise player does whatever he wants but plays <35% of games, it's all gravy from there.

This. Like man up, be professional, and **** TALK. What a minnow.

I wonder which player(s) didn't directly say it to CP3's face but then Franks came a running middle of the night?


I'm guessing they already had some back and forth and another talk wasn't gonna go anywhere.


That doesn't matter. Communication is key. Ignoring for weeks isn't.
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#288 » by Blame Rasho » Thu Dec 4, 2025 1:46 pm

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atlantabbq99 wrote:As a Hawks fan, i realize about a year ago that not drafting CP3 was a good thing, or not so bad.

If Atlanta drafted Paul, it wouldn't have resulted in any championships or MVPs. CP3 is just a stats guy that didn't really do much for winning.

He can't win, but he also has a very well know reputation of being toxic and a locker room cancer.

I thought that when Chris Paul left, he would go out like John Stockton, as maybe the best PG to never win a Championship, but now with all of his ex teammates and coaches now coming out and saying how petty and toxic and what a low life he is, Paul will probably go out as forgotten and with no hall of fame votes.


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Sheldon Williams was awesome for the Hawks in those two epic years. You shouldn’t mock him for that thought process. Chris Paul sucks, his creepy brother though… Cliff did much better by insuring homes.
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#289 » by Godymas » Thu Dec 4, 2025 2:01 pm

Imo, the other players and staff just said "he's not playing good enough to have this kind of attitude"

like he's mega washed this season, barely plays and his #s are in the dumpster for a guy of his caliber of experience

in the past they probably let him have his way in the meetings and locker room cause he was one of the best players in the room, if not the best player. So he was allowed to be abrasive and call people and get away with a lot of his classic attitude issues because he was Chris Paul, he was the best PG in the NBA, he was going to be a HoFer.

Now he's waaaay washed, the dudes in the locker room are all veterans and some of them have done more than Chris Paul has in his career, and the Clippers probably signed him as a "hero's goodbye"

they probably didn't think he'd be overly vocal, that he might recognize that he's not the guy anymore, it's not his team, he's just there as formal "thank you, you meant so much to the Clippers, we're trying to win this year, come retire with us"

Except he decided that the season isn't playing out, he's really desperate to get that ring, was hoping to have shot at it with the Clippers, his franchise, and things have been sour.

So basically he's become the equivalent of "old man yelling at cloud" for this locker room, like sure he's good and talented, but it sounds like he tried to be the coach in the room, he may have even have tried to "big brother" Ty Lue, who wasn't as notable of a player as Chris Paul, and Ty Lue obviously didn't like that because he's had a lot of success as a coach, and he doesn't want some player becoming the coach that everyone's gonna listen to, and it also sounds like Ty Lue might not be experienced with this level of veteran in his locker room. In the past Chris Paul played with much older coaches. Mike D'Antoni, Doc Rivers, Byron Scott, and obviously they could use their years to take over Chris Paul and keep him in check. Ty Lue is 48, he's right there with Chris Paul as a peer, they played each other a few times in their careers, this is a completely different situation. It's actually why I 100% believe that Chris Paul will not end up on the Lakers. JJ 100% does not want Chris Paul in his locker room messing with whatever he's done to get Luka and Reaves to be the leaders for the team, and credit to JJ for keeping LeBron in check too, having him step down and slow down successfully. I don't think JJ will have that happen with Chris Paul, if he ends up a Laker. The former teammate experience will takeover Chris Paul and he's not going to adapt his mindset at 40.

We see this happen often with aging stars, Carmelo was the classic example. Guys who still think they're the dude, when they need to quiet down. For Melo it took him playing with a prime superstar talent like Damian Lillard who has exceptional people skills too, to really calm things down and get him to stay in line.

For Chris Paul, he's coming from the Spurs, one of the youngest teams in the NBA, and I promise you every single young guy in that locker room was probably giving him the "you are a god" treatment and worshipping the ground he walked on, listening to everything he said eagerly, all of that.

I actually think that the right thing for Chris Paul is to end up on a team with a strong player leader in the locker room that can keep him in check. So, obviously, Denver sticks out, but I think Minnesota is a quiet team because Anthony Edwards gets the veterans like Julius Randle, Rudy Gobert, Mike Conley, etc. to respect him heavily out there, and Chris Paul could actually help them a lot because they need a point guard to fill minutes on their team because it's either Mike Conley or Rob DIllingham, and Rob needs a lot of mentoring too. Also I think Chris Finch is an underrated leader, he's 56, he seems to carry himself with a lot of respect out there and the results show, so I like the idea of Chris Paul playing in Minnesota.

It's hard to find other teams where CP3 going wouldn't be an issue, there needs to be a serious contention with a in-prime superstar, not dudes trying to light a fire from the past like what's going on in LA where it's getting a little desperate considering the status of their picks.

Oh and OKC, I think would be a massive mistake too. Gordon Hayward hated being there, even though the team was contending. I think that there's too much youthful strength, and Paul will just be completely isolated from the locker room. It would like Chris Paul joining Memphis in 2022. It wouldn't make any sense at all.
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#290 » by Pattycakes » Thu Dec 4, 2025 3:19 pm

I like Paul to the wolves as a whole 180 to forget about this odd clippers tenure
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#291 » by Celts17Pride » Thu Dec 4, 2025 3:24 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:As a Hawks fan, i realize about a year ago that not drafting CP3 was a good thing, or not so bad.

If Atlanta drafted Paul, it wouldn't have resulted in any championships or MVPs. CP3 is just a stats guy that didn't really do much for winning.

Hard to imagine a Hawks fan saying this with Trae Young on the Hawks team.
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Post#292 » by Mamba Mentality » Thu Dec 4, 2025 3:27 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:As a Hawks fan, i realize about a year ago that not drafting CP3 was a good thing, or not so bad.

If Atlanta drafted Paul, it wouldn't have resulted in any championships or MVPs. CP3 is just a stats guy that didn't really do much for winning.

He can't win, but he also has a very well know reputation of being toxic and a locker room cancer.

I thought that when Chris Paul left, he would go out like John Stockton, as maybe the best PG to never win a Championship, but now with all of his ex teammates and coaches now coming out and saying how petty and toxic and what a low life he is, Paul will probably go out as forgotten and with no hall of fame votes.


CP3 is on my mount rushmore of most hated players but this is a really bad take. Prime CP3 impacted winning as much as anyone, he's a lock for the HOF. There is no debate.
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Post#293 » by chilluminati » Thu Dec 4, 2025 3:35 pm

The fact Lue wouldn't even talk to him says everything. Sounds like he wore out his welcome. He's washed so the positive is no longer outweighing the negative. Interested to hear more details come out over time. I can see Chris' mentality being overkill for players like Harden or Kawhi.
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Post#294 » by Woodsanity » Thu Dec 4, 2025 3:50 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:As a Hawks fan, i realize about a year ago that not drafting CP3 was a good thing, or not so bad.

If Atlanta drafted Paul, it wouldn't have resulted in any championships or MVPs. CP3 is just a stats guy that didn't really do much for winning.

He can't win, but he also has a very well know reputation of being toxic and a locker room cancer.

I thought that when Chris Paul left, he would go out like John Stockton, as maybe the best PG to never win a Championship, but now with all of his ex teammates and coaches now coming out and saying how petty and toxic and what a low life he is, Paul will probably go out as forgotten and with no hall of fame votes.

Jesus Christ. CP3 is one of the most winning players of all time. What a horrid take.
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#295 » by canada_dry » Thu Dec 4, 2025 5:10 pm

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canada_dry wrote:You know whos the least surprised by this? Chris pauls current and former teammates.

Im looking forward to seeing blake griffin trying to be professional on the nba on prime show while trying not to say "i told you so" while also being egged on by the others. Thats gonna be fun.

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Chris actually trolled a few hours ago with a facetime picture with Griffin and Jordan then put it on his IG. This whole thing is petty and funny.
They ARE cool now . Blake congratulated him last season on one of his records i forget which. Time heals. but the breakup was ugly and blake was getting teased last week about not choosing to pick the table cp3 and doc were on during that game of picking which table you'd want to have Thanksgiving dinner at. So its widely known if even his co stars are teasing him about it.

Thats why im saying it could be fun, he'll probably be egged on by dirk and nash etc.

Its also funny how cp3 is running his own propaganda like **** wasnt REALLY bad between him and those 2 by the end.

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Post#296 » by canada_dry » Thu Dec 4, 2025 5:11 pm

salmonleg wrote:CP didn’t wear out his welcome numerous times because of the message he was sending, it was the delivery. Top tier leaders don’t have that problem. He always has. He never learned to deliver the hard truth to people without being an **** about it. That’s gotta wear on anyone no matter his past accomplishments.
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Post#297 » by WiggOuts » Thu Dec 4, 2025 5:17 pm

A lot of people calling for Lue to be fired is odd, their team sucks, they're old as hell and often injured, how much can Lue really do with that roster...

What surprises me is how many people feel bad for CP, this is the same old story with this guy. When you're pushing 40 and still haven't learned from your mistakes, or choose not to thats on you. His methods have never really been effective as a leader, who wouldve thought that being an angry **** wouldn't work lol...when history keeps repeating itself its the universe giving you an opportunity to change things, the balls in his court
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Post#298 » by HMFFL » Thu Dec 4, 2025 5:18 pm

Woodsanity wrote:
atlantabbq99 wrote:As a Hawks fan, i realize about a year ago that not drafting CP3 was a good thing, or not so bad.

If Atlanta drafted Paul, it wouldn't have resulted in any championships or MVPs. CP3 is just a stats guy that didn't really do much for winning.

He can't win, but he also has a very well know reputation of being toxic and a locker room cancer.

I thought that when Chris Paul left, he would go out like John Stockton, as maybe the best PG to never win a Championship, but now with all of his ex teammates and coaches now coming out and saying how petty and toxic and what a low life he is, Paul will probably go out as forgotten and with no hall of fame votes.

Jesus Christ. CP3 is one of the most winning players of all time. What a horrid take.
What did his teams actually win?

He played for maybe two good organizations in his career. He decided to leave on his own and has been a journeyman since his early 30's.

His strong opinion seems to be a red flag and many claim he's an arse.
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Post#299 » by HMFFL » Thu Dec 4, 2025 5:20 pm

WiggOuts wrote:A lot of people calling for Lue to be fired is odd, their team sucks, they're old as hell and often injured, how much can Lue really do with that roster...

What surprises me is how many people feel bad for CP, this is the same old story with this guy. When you're pushing 40 and still haven't learned from your mistakes, or choose not to thats on you. His methods have never really been effective as a leader, who wouldve thought that being an angry **** wouldn't work lol...when history keeps repeating itself its the universe giving you an opportunity to change things, the balls in his court
Nobody had that the "What can Lue do with this roster" take before the season began.
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Re: Haynes: Chris Paul to be released by the Clippers 

Post#300 » by Woodsanity » Thu Dec 4, 2025 5:31 pm

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atlantabbq99 wrote:As a Hawks fan, i realize about a year ago that not drafting CP3 was a good thing, or not so bad.

If Atlanta drafted Paul, it wouldn't have resulted in any championships or MVPs. CP3 is just a stats guy that didn't really do much for winning.

He can't win, but he also has a very well know reputation of being toxic and a locker room cancer.

I thought that when Chris Paul left, he would go out like John Stockton, as maybe the best PG to never win a Championship, but now with all of his ex teammates and coaches now coming out and saying how petty and toxic and what a low life he is, Paul will probably go out as forgotten and with no hall of fame votes.

Jesus Christ. CP3 is one of the most winning players of all time. What a horrid take.
What did his teams actually win?

He played for maybe two good organizations in his career. He decided to leave on his own and has been a journeyman since his early 30's.

His strong opinion seems to be a red flag and many claim he's an arse.


Led the Hornets to more success than they ever had.

Led the Clippers to more success than they ever had.

Led the Suns to the Finals.

Led an OKC team that had no business even being in the playoffs to the playoffs.

But yes he hasn't helped the teams he has been on greatly. :roll:

CP3 has largely been on very bad franchises. His biggest flaw is actually being injury prone more than anything.
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