JordansBulls wrote:RipPizzaGuy wrote:JordansBulls wrote:
The Spurs team that had a 37 year old Tim Duncan a 22 year old Kawhi and went 7 games in round 1 as the #1 seed? Just because they smashed Lebron's team don't make them tougher. The Warriors basically came out of nowhere. They won 47 games and then the next year won 67 games with same team. Basically like the Cavs team from 2008 to 2009.
Lol 37 year old Duncan was still putting up 15/10 with great advanced stats. 22 year old Kawhi won finals MVP. Tony parker averaged 18ppg in the finals, and Manu averaged 15. They were also coached by the greatest coach of all time and were 10 deep.
Its **** pointless having a conversation with a troll who tries to discredit the spurs with meaningless numbers. Either you didn't watch the series, or you blanked out just how great the spurs were to protect your father figure Michael Jordan.
So why is it when Lebron goes against a 37 year old it is considered they are they still good and great players, but when Lebron had a 37 year old Shaq he is talked about as ancient when he won the allstar game mvp the year before and outplayed Lebron in pivotal game 5 of the series when Cavs had HCA?
Because Duncan was a very good player at 37 and Shaq was terrible, lazy, and out of shape. It's not that complicated and it's very ridiculous that the anti-LeBron crowd brings up Shaq as if he was only marginally worse than threepeat Shaq. We see the agenda and you're not fooling anybody. One was a guy who led the league in DRPM and helped anchor a historically good defense his last year in the league. The other was a defensive liability who clogged driving lanes yet could still put up points on the board despite actively hurting the team.
Why are you bringing up the All Star Game MVP? Why should we care about a meaningless exhibition game and more importantly why do you value it over an 82 games regular season and entire postseason's worth of games that actually matter?
And bringing up Game 5...okay? That was LeBron's worst game of the playoffs. Even with him having a terrible shooting night and Shaq putting up 21 in his
best game of the postseason, they saw nowhere near the same defensive attention as LeBron was double or triple teamed every time he went to the basket while Shaq got easy lay ins largely created from LeBron's gravity. But again, it's one throwback game for Shaq and an off night for LeBron yet you expect us to say, "Oh well that settles it, LeBron clearly had enough help to beat the Big 3 Celtics because he had 'prime Shaq' and Mo Williams!" FYI, LeBron's on-off in the 2010 playoffs was +23.2 while Shaq's was -8.3. Once again...Shaq was a bad player by that point.
Also, I find it amusing that when other players are injured - namely a guy like Curry in recent years - he gets all the excuses in the world made for him. Yet LeBron had a serious elbow injury in the 2010 playoffs that even caused him to shoot a free throw left handed at the very end of the Bulls series and affected him against Boston, but nobody cares.