Rudy Gobert: Future DPOY

[greg4012]

"Lately they don't go in the paint that much, they just shoot jumpshots, and it's pissing me off 'cause I want some blocks, but it's great for the team." - Rudy Gobert after win against Brooklyn

Hassan, might be seeing this sometime soon. Rudy didn't have a single block (although, he had at least 2 that weren't counted) but his rim defense percentage got better after last night.

This already happens with whiteside over the course of games. Chicago just tried not to give in due to their inherent desire to play big and their lack of reliable floor spacers


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[cyclix]

Can we turn this thread to Whiteside vs Gobert?

Whiteside is like 1.4 BPG better than Gobert per 36 mins.

Gobert: 3.6 BLOCKS per 36
Whiteside: 5.8 BLOCKS per 36

[Side beard]

Can we turn this thread to Whiteside vs Gobert?

Whiteside is like 1.4 BPG better than Gobert per 36 mins.

Gobert: 3.6 BLOCKS per 36
Whiteside: 5.8 BLOCKS per 36

My bad, just rememberd I checked games only in 2015.

[HawaiianJazzFan]

Whiteside is like 1.4 BPG better than Gobert per 36 mins.

Gobert: 3.6 BLOCKS per 36
Whiteside: 5.8 BLOCKS per 36

My bad, just rememberd I checked games only in 2015.

That's fine, Rudy has only blocked 1 shot in the last 2 games, but his rim defending has actually improved (almost 1%) in the last 2 games because players are just avoiding him. I think Rudy is still better at picking spots and that is the reason that Rudy fouls 50% less than Hassan Whiteside (5.0 fouls per 36 minutes, and Rudy is at 3.3 fouls per 36 minutes). Hassan can have the most blocks just as long as Rudy stays as the number one rim defender (see below), though Hassan has moved to number 2.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/defense/?sort=FGP_DEFEND_RIM&dir=-1&CF=MIN*G*15%7CBLK*G*1

[Side beard]

Gobert: 3.6 BLOCKS per 36
Whiteside: 5.8 BLOCKS per 36

My bad, just rememberd I checked games only in 2015.

That's fine, Rudy has only blocked 1 shot in the last 2 games, but his rim defending has actually improved (almost 1%) in the last 2 games because players are just avoiding him. I think Rudy is still better at picking spots and that is the reason that Rudy fouls 50% less than Hassan Whiteside (5.0 fouls per 36 minutes, and Rudy is at 3.3 fouls per 36 minutes). Hassan can have the most blocks just as long as Rudy stays as the number one rim defender (see below), though Hassan has moved to number 2.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/defense/?sort=FGP_DEFEND_RIM&dir=-1&CF=MIN*G*15%7CBLK*G*1

Slightly OT, even though it is super-small sample size, but it seems that Amundson could be the game changer Knicks needed. I judge that from 82games statistics aswell.

[orlandomanic]

Like i said, Robert could be a good role player one day on a good team, but his free throw shooting will cost his team games and keep him on the same level as DeAndre Jordan and McGee. He will never be allowed to play in the 4th where defense counts the most, and that will hinder him from being an All Star or DPOY.

[Hedda Gambler]

Like i said, Robert could be a good role player one day on a good team, but his free throw shooting will cost his team games and keep him on the same level as DeAndre Jordan and McGee. He will never be allowed to play in the 4th where defense counts the most, and that will hinder him from being an All Star or DPOY.

And like me and a lot of other people said, you`re just being ignorant and plain stupid.

[Boarder Patrol]

Why, in a weak draft, would a team not take a chance ona guy with such insane measurable and raw potential? Same thing happened with Giannis. No trying to pretend like id be a good GM but I'd have gone for upside over sure role player like a lot of 2013 draftees were.

[Boarder Patrol]

Like i said, Robert could be a good role player one day on a good team, but his free throw shooting will cost his team games and keep him on the same level as DeAndre Jordan and McGee. He will never be allowed to play in the 4th where defense counts the most, and that will hinder him from being an All Star or DPOY.

.610 isn't nearly a low enough percentage to make hacking viable for the other team or cost your team games IMO.

[HawaiianJazzFan]

Like i said, Robert could be a good role player one day on a good team, but his free throw shooting will cost his team games and keep him on the same level as DeAndre Jordan and McGee. He will never be allowed to play in the 4th where defense counts the most, and that will hinder him from being an All Star or DPOY.

Luckily the two previous games against San Antonio and Portland our defensive rating was 82.5 and we blew both of those teams out, he didn't even need to play in the 4th quarter.

Clearly, you have some bias against RUDY (seriously who is Robert??) if that's the only thing you have against him. I wouldn't trust your opinion on anything basketball related if you seriously think he might be a role player "someday". Get that ish out of here. He isn't in the Jordan/Drummond/Wallace/Shaq level of FT shooting as has been proven over and over. Also, if you foul a 61% FT shooter mathematically you are making a losing play per possession. Only stupid coaches that don't understand math would do that. You could foul half of our team and they'd be just as likely to miss FT's. He wasn't even the worst FT shooter that we had on the floor tonight (BTW, Boozer was also 4/7). All of his FT misses were a result of a foul off an offensive rebound. It is only because he out rebounded someone that we even got FT attempts on that possession after we missed a shot. Hayward has missed more clutch FT's in games than Rudy ever will. He was better tonight than Trey Burke, Favors, and Booker from the free throw line. Also, Favors has improved his FT shooting every year, and is still just barely at the level of Gobert. Gobert has played in just a little over 82 games, he has plenty of time to improve (as he already has from this last year to this year) as he has a good stroke.

[Hedda Gambler]

Some players that shot worse than .610 in their 2nd seasons: Karl Malone, Blake Griffin, Shaq, Dwight Howard, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Andrew Bogut.

Some players that shot under .700 in their 2nd seasons: Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Moses Malone, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Marc Gasol, Dikeme Mutombo, Joakim Noah.

You`re right, these guys are/were all role players at best and not good enough FT-shooters to get crunch time minutes.

[HawaiianJazzFan]

Some players that shot worse than .610 in their 2nd seasons: Karl Malone, Blake Griffin, Shaq, Dwight Howard, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Andrew Bogut.

Some players that shot under .700 in their 2nd seasons: Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Moses Malone, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Marc Gasol, Dikeme Mutombo, Joakim Noah.

You`re right, these guys are/were all role players at best and not good enough FT-shooters to get crunch time minutes.

The other thing about it is that his first season he played an average of 9 minutes in 45 games.... he barely even had a rookie season.

[DaFan334]

Some players that shot worse than .610 in their 2nd seasons: Karl Malone, Blake Griffin, Shaq, Dwight Howard, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Andrew Bogut.

Some players that shot under .700 in their 2nd seasons: Tim Duncan, Hakeem Olajuwon, Moses Malone, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Marc Gasol, Dikeme Mutombo, Joakim Noah.

You`re right, these guys are/were all role players at best and not good enough FT-shooters to get crunch time minutes.

Can you give us the other side of players who weren't good? I'm sure there is one or two who weren't great who did this.

[Hedda Gambler]

Can you give us the other side of players who weren't good? I'm sure there is one or two who weren't great who did this.

So what? The idiot says that it is not possible for Gobert to become a crunch time player because of his FT-shooting. I`m not saying that this proves anything else that it is way, way, way too early to make any prediction about this.

[Young gun 6]

Why, in a weak draft, would a team not take a chance ona guy with such insane measurable and raw potential? Same thing happened with Giannis. No trying to pretend like id be a good GM but I'd have gone for upside over sure role player like a lot of 2013 draftees were.

I agree. Just so so so glad len didn't go no.1 like it was hyped on the night and we got to take him. Len, Giannas and gobert will be the best three players from that draft.

[teleblaze]

Robert on the Cavs would be dope. just saying.

[Alienware]

Giannis probably going to be the best player from that class, but Rudy is certainly up there too. DeAndre Jordan with a better touch, or rather a Roy Hibbert in his prime, that's not a bad ceiling.

[Rasheeed!!!]

Like i said, Robert could be a good role player one day on a good team, but his free throw shooting will cost his team games and keep him on the same level as DeAndre Jordan and McGee. He will never be allowed to play in the 4th where defense counts the most, and that will hinder him from being an All Star or DPOY.

what you mean like Ben Wallace? who was a 4 time DPOY and his best FT% shooting season was 49%?

Gobert can be DPOY easily. He's already better than McGee and Jordan who post nice raw stats but lack the fundamentals. He's still got a long way to go but I believe he can get there and it will be soon. IMO his ceiling is DPOY candidate + 12-15ppg.

[Mich3006]

Camby?

His offensive game is better imo... And he´ll get all star honors in the near future

[JaysRangers]

Very high. His ability to block shots is off the charts.