Better team this season= Utah Jazz or Sacramento Kings?

[jazzfan1971]

(oh, someone is going to throw a fit and report this, but, I just thought it was funny. Please forgive me!)

[Winsome Gerbil]

If she can do this, the sign her up:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qUKX331Zto[/youtube]

[bondom34]

Well I guess if we're highlighting defensive lapses....




3 games people. 3.

[reignfire]

The Jazz will have a better record. The Kings can't be successful because they are so dysfunctional. Talent can't beat dysfunction.

[Litany]

Well I guess if we're highlighting defensive lapses....




3 games people. 3.

Cousins has a consistent history of "lapses" the Jazz players do not...as explained by many objective people...including Mr. Lowe.

There's a reason that Cousins is viewed the way he is. The world isn't against him, its been 6 f'ng years. Where there's smoke theres fire as the old saying goes. Kings are a must freaking watch though on League pass. That is a time-bomb situation.

[Litany]

(oh, someone is going to throw a fit and report this, but, I just thought it was funny. Please forgive me!)

[bondom34]

Well I guess if we're highlighting defensive lapses....




3 games people. 3.

Cousins has a consistent history of "lapses" the Jazz players do not...as explained by many objective people...including Mr. Lowe.

There's a reason that Cousins is viewed the way he is. The world isn't against him, its been 6 f'ng years. Where there's smoke theres fire as the old saying goes. Kings are a must freaking watch though on League pass. That is a time-bomb situation.

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

As well, I'm not a Kings fan, so saying "multiple objective people" view him that way is fine. But not all, and he's still a superior player.

[Han Solo]

Jazz play great defense.. Haven't watched the Kings yet this year.

[Litany]

Well I guess if we're highlighting defensive lapses....




3 games people. 3.

Cousins has a consistent history of "lapses" the Jazz players do not...as explained by many objective people...including Mr. Lowe.

There's a reason that Cousins is viewed the way he is. The world isn't against him, its been 6 f'ng years. Where there's smoke theres fire as the old saying goes. Kings are a must freaking watch though on League pass. That is a time-bomb situation.

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

You're wrong. Again. Sorry...Must suck

[bondom34]

Cousins has a consistent history of "lapses" the Jazz players do not...as explained by many objective people...including Mr. Lowe.

There's a reason that Cousins is viewed the way he is. The world isn't against him, its been 6 f'ng years. Where there's smoke theres fire as the old saying goes. Kings are a must freaking watch though on League pass. That is a time-bomb situation.

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

You're wrong. Again. Sorry...Must suck

Please, show me how. You know, objectively, not with cute little videos that last a few seconds, because I can sell you a nice Anthony Bennett highlight video to show you he's awesome too.

[Winsome Gerbil]

Well I guess if we're highlighting defensive lapses....




3 games people. 3.

Cousins has a consistent history of "lapses" the Jazz players do not...as explained by many objective people...including Mr. Lowe.

There's a reason that Cousins is viewed the way he is. The world isn't against him, its been 6 f'ng years. Where there's smoke theres fire as the old saying goes. Kings are a must freaking watch though on League pass. That is a time-bomb situation.

Mr. Lowe as you call him is anything but objective when it comes to DeMarcus Cousins. I think that all stems from him writing a hit piece on Cousins a couple of years ago, and immediately getting burned as Cousins blew up. Bruised egos are one of the worst NBA-related injuries.

[theonlyclutch]

Well I guess if we're highlighting defensive lapses....




3 games people. 3.

Cousins has a consistent history of "lapses" the Jazz players do not...as explained by many objective people...including Mr. Lowe.

There's a reason that Cousins is viewed the way he is. The world isn't against him, its been 6 f'ng years. Where there's smoke theres fire as the old saying goes. Kings are a must freaking watch though on League pass. That is a time-bomb situation.

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

I'm not seeing this, taking more usage/shots doesn't automatically equate to better offensive player, especially since Cousins is an absolute turnover factory:
In 2015:
Favors on-court ORTG - 107.3 (+4.5)
Cousins on-court ORTG - 106.7 (+2.6) (1st year Cousins had positive on-off on O)

[Litany]

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

You're wrong. Again. Sorry...Must suck

Please, show me how. You know, objectively, not with cute little videos that last a few seconds, because I can sell you a nice Anthony Bennett highlight video to show you he's awesome too.

No need to waste my time with you. You have a clear agenda with your last statement.

[bondom34]

Cousins has a consistent history of "lapses" the Jazz players do not...as explained by many objective people...including Mr. Lowe.

There's a reason that Cousins is viewed the way he is. The world isn't against him, its been 6 f'ng years. Where there's smoke theres fire as the old saying goes. Kings are a must freaking watch though on League pass. That is a time-bomb situation.

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

I'm not seeing this, taking more usage/shots doesn't automatically equate to better offensive player, especially since Cousins is an absolute turnover factory:
In 2015:
Favors on-court ORTG - 107.3 (+4.5)
Cousins on-court ORTG - 106.7 (+2.6) (1st year Cousins had positive on-off on O)

Favors ORPM 1.22
Cousins 1.41

So maybe "a mile" was an exaggeration, but if you're using on/off then Cousins is a far superior defender.

[Litany]

Cousins has a consistent history of "lapses" the Jazz players do not...as explained by many objective people...including Mr. Lowe.

There's a reason that Cousins is viewed the way he is. The world isn't against him, its been 6 f'ng years. Where there's smoke theres fire as the old saying goes. Kings are a must freaking watch though on League pass. That is a time-bomb situation.

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

I'm not seeing this, taking more usage/shots doesn't automatically equate to better offensive player, especially since Cousins is an absolute turnover factory:
In 2015:
Favors on-court ORTG - 107.3 (+4.5)
Cousins on-court ORTG - 106.7 (+2.6) (1st year Cousins had positive on-off on O)

He's full of ****. He has a clear agenda in what he's saying. He will fly off the handle and say it's my fault for bringing it up, but I think he's clearly still pissed about the way I made fun of Kanter and OKC signing the worst defender in the league and a bench player to a max contract. Bondom defending this and claiming thread derail in 3...2...1..

[bondom34]

You're wrong. Again. Sorry...Must suck

Please, show me how. You know, objectively, not with cute little videos that last a few seconds, because I can sell you a nice Anthony Bennett highlight video to show you he's awesome too.

No need to waste my time with you. You have a clear agenda with your last statement.

No, I don't. I just tire of constant trolling and bashing for no reason while propping up your own guys.

[Texas Chuck]

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

I'm not seeing this, taking more usage/shots doesn't automatically equate to better offensive player, especially since Cousins is an absolute turnover factory:
In 2015:
Favors on-court ORTG - 107.3 (+4.5)
Cousins on-court ORTG - 106.7 (+2.6) (1st year Cousins had positive on-off on O)

yeah probably more correct to say Cousins has a ton more offensive talent than Favors. But I'd agree it hasn't always fully translated yet.

[bondom34]

OK then. I guess any objective measure of defensive ability goes out the window, because "LOL KINGS!". Because Cousins is a better defender than Favors, and a better offensive player by a mile.

I'm not seeing this, taking more usage/shots doesn't automatically equate to better offensive player, especially since Cousins is an absolute turnover factory:
In 2015:
Favors on-court ORTG - 107.3 (+4.5)
Cousins on-court ORTG - 106.7 (+2.6) (1st year Cousins had positive on-off on O)

He's full of ****. He has a clear agenda in what he's saying. He will fly off the handle and say it's my fault for bringing it up, but I think he's clearly still pissed about the way I made fun of Kanter and OKC signing the worst defender in the league and a bench player to a max contract. Bondom defending this and claiming thread derail in 3...2...1..

2 things:
1. Not claiming you're derailing, but you are baiting .
2. I have zero agenda against you for anything on Kanter. He was an ass to the Jazz fans, I've said as much. I'm happy with him in OKC. Believe it or not, I tend not to live on last season's results, I have enough confidence in myself and my own team to do so.

[Litany]

Well I guess if we're highlighting defensive lapses....




3 games people. 3.

And about this video, here's the difference. Favors realized the lapse and at least tried to do something about the play. Cousins would have stood there and watched him, which is what those videos show.

[bondom34]

Well I guess if we're highlighting defensive lapses....




3 games people. 3.

And about this video, here's the difference. Favors realized the lapse and at least tried to do something about the play. Cousins would have stood there and watched him, which is what those videos show.

Except your video cut out the part where Cousins actually didn't realize what happened in the play. Hence his confusion (similar to Favors).