Luka Doncic hints that he might stay in Europe next season

[Mirotic12]

Has any 19-yr old put up these kind of numbers in Euro league?

Someone in the draft thread did the comparisons so I'll copy from there

EUROLEAGUE
Rubio, 20 (season after draft): 13/8/6/3stl/.562 TS%/17.7 PER (7th on team)
Batum, 20 (draft year): 13/5/4/2/.526 TS%/12.8 PER (6th on team)
Dragic, 22 (draft year): 14/5/4/.544 TS%/13.2 PER (3rd on team)
Doncic, 19: 25/8/7/2/.61 TS%/ 22.9 PER (1st on team)

SMALLER LEAGUES
Porzingis, 20 (ACB): 20/9/2blk/1.6stl/.555 TS%/19.2 PER (2nd on team)
Jokic, 19 (Adriatic): 18/10/3ast/.569 TS%/21.2 PER (2nd on team)
Capela, 20 (French Pro A): 14/13/3blk/2ast/1.5 stl/.636 TS%/23.8 PER (1st on team)
Gobert, 21 (French Pro A): 15/10/3/.734 TS%/21 PER (1st on team)

Doncic is better than all of them at the same age.

Smaller leagues? ACB is a smaller league? You do realize that at the time the Euroleague wasn't even a proper league, like it is now. Rubio, as the rest of the Spanish players and Doncinc, they all played in ACB. It really can't be compared to the other leagues you are putting here.

The ACB is nowhere near to the level of EuroLeague. I can't believe that myth still exists.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Honestly wouldn't be a terrible thing for a rebuilding team. You get a top prospect but they don't add any wins or start counting off their rookie scale so you get another year pressure-free to tank. I think Hinkie made pretty good use of this type tactic.

[DeBlazerRiddem]

Phoenix should take Doncic. Maybe Ayton has generational athletic ability that closes the gap.
But if the NBA has taught us anything over the last 15 years it's that you take the highly skilled forward over the unskilled center every single time.

Not saying its the exact same situation or anything but Portland hears ya

[Mirotic12]

That said, I wonder how many American tier 1 prospects would have done the same if they were in Euroleague. The answer is obviously not many, but I still think some of them would (maybe not the ones in recent history, but some of them defeinitely would). Luka Doncic is unprecedented case, but thats also because Europe just doesn't produce that many superstar prospects as USA does. So when people say he is best prospect since Lebron, I shake my head a little bit. He is not better than Brow, he is not better than Durant or Embiid...

How many...at age 19, at the class of a NCAA Freshman...maybe....

Magic (against EuroLeague competition back then)
Jordan (against EuroLeague competition back then)

I could possibly see them doing something similar at age 19. But also, the EuroLeague is far better than it was in those days. The list stops there, unless we want to talk about basketball from the 60s and 70s, which might as well be prehistoric in EuroLeague terms.

[AdagioPace]

Nicolò Melli (Bargnani's non-lazy twin)is outplaying Doncic right now. What a time!

[Mirotic12]

After "Bosman rule" all changed and not only in Basketball, 50 years ago no foreigner could play, then 1 after 2 and then the Bosman rule happened, many young players were playing back then because teams couldn't do anything else, now they can bring 8 Americans players or who ever they want so you compare 2 diffrent things.

Also European Champions cup and Euroleague are not the same like its not the same Champions league in football with what it was 25 years ago. In Euroleague the best 16 teams are playing so they can play more than 1 team from same country(like Spain with 4 teams), back then only the champions were playing so only few teams were really good.

By that i'm not saying Divac was not great lol, he didn't play in Euroleague tho so what i said about Doncic is correct.

It's the same league, so actually he did. FIBA's marketing in European sports media that it's two different leagues has worked, since so many people somehow think it was a different league now, even though it is the same exact league.

[TeamTragic]

Phoenix should take Doncic. Maybe Ayton has generational athletic ability that closes the gap.
But if the NBA has taught us anything over the last 15 years it's that you take the highly skilled forward over the unskilled center every single time.

Watch this video and then come back and tell me that Ayton is unskilled. Thanks.

Watch on YouTube

[laika]

Phoenix should take Doncic. Maybe Ayton has generational athletic ability that closes the gap.
But if the NBA has taught us anything over the last 15 years it's that you take the highly skilled forward over the unskilled center every single time.

Watch this video and then come back and tell me that Ayton is unskilled. Thanks.

Watch on YouTube

Watched half and then got bored. The video consists mostly of him overpowering inferior opponents. 2 of his 3 spin moves were blatant travels. Did not make a single tough pass. Very little dribbling ability. Shooting stroke looks awkward.

Obviously he isn't bad, but Ayton reminds me a lot of Drummond. Drummond is one of the most overrated players in the NBA and it would be a significant mistake to take Drummond #1. Ayton is a better shooter but not sure if he can shoot well enough to displace the shots that his teammates would be taking.

[NapoleonII]

Watch this video and then come back and tell me that Ayton is unskilled. Thanks.

Watch on YouTube

Watched half and then got bored. The video consists mostly of him overpowering inferior opponents. 2 of his 3 spin moves were blatant travels. Did not make a single tough pass. Very little dribbling ability. Shooting stroke looks awkward.

Obviously he isn't bad, but Ayton reminds me a lot of Drummond. Drummond is one of the most overrated players in the NBA and it would be a significant mistake to take Drummond #1. Ayton is a better shooter but not sure if he can shoot well enough to displace the shots that his teammates would be taking.

Did your team move down a couple spots in the lottery?

[Superhuman]

Watch this video and then come back and tell me that Ayton is unskilled. Thanks.

Watch on YouTube

Watched half and then got bored. The video consists mostly of him overpowering inferior opponents. 2 of his 3 spin moves were blatant travels. Did not make a single tough pass. Very little dribbling ability. Shooting stroke looks awkward.

Obviously he isn't bad, but Ayton reminds me a lot of Drummond. Drummond is one of the most overrated players in the NBA and it would be a significant mistake to take Drummond #1. Ayton is a better shooter but not sure if he can shoot well enough to displace the shots that his teammates would be taking.

If you truly watched half of the video and all you came up with was Andre **** Drummond then you are either trolling or just plain clueless. I'm assuming it's a little of both.

[Duke4life831]

Watch this video and then come back and tell me that Ayton is unskilled. Thanks.

Watch on YouTube

Watched half and then got bored. The video consists mostly of him overpowering inferior opponents. 2 of his 3 spin moves were blatant travels. Did not make a single tough pass. Very little dribbling ability. Shooting stroke looks awkward.

Obviously he isn't bad, but Ayton reminds me a lot of Drummond. Drummond is one of the most overrated players in the NBA and it would be a significant mistake to take Drummond #1. Ayton is a better shooter but not sure if he can shoot well enough to displace the shots that his teammates would be taking.

I think you can make a highlight reel of Drummond's entire NBA career, his year at UCONN and his high school career and not see half the stuff Ayton did in his 35 games at Zona. If you want to criticize his motor and intensity I will be right with you calling him out on that. He is a 19 year old 7 foot center that can face up, back his man down, mid range jumper, 3pt jumper and has moves like his spin move. Is he the most skilled big man prospect ever? No. But for being 19 and not having played the game for too long, the dude is one skilled center prospect.

[tria]

Well now you can be even more sure he is coming, his biggest wish to win Euroleague with Real before coming over is fullfiled. And he is Euroleague champion, Euroleague MVP, Euroleague Final 4 MVP + Eurobasket Champion and Eurobasket Ideal 5. Only thing missing is Spanish League MVP, but this one i think is not that important to him and i don't think he will get it this year. One he can get is Spanish Finals MVP.

[DirtyDez]

Well now you can be even more sure he is coming, his biggest wish to win Euroleague with Real before coming over is fullfiled. And he is Euroleague champion, Euroleague MVP, Euroleague Final 4 MVP + Eurobasket Champion and Eurobasket Ideal 5. Only thing missing is Spanish League MVP, but this one i think is not that important to him and i don't think he will get it this year. One he can get is Spanish Finals MVP.

I wish he would focus on the draft from here on out but you can’t blame him for wanting to keep playing. When do the playoffs start?

[cloudXXI]

He should focus on the team that is paying him. That's what professionals do

[traax]

Teams should not pass on him, that would be a monumental mistake. I would draft him no matter what, even if he not willing to play for a certain franchise. Picking someone like Ayton over him would be a franchise altering mistake.

[Potedon]

Everything about this guy screams bust, would avoid taking him.

[NickAnderson]

Watch this video and then come back and tell me that Ayton is unskilled. Thanks.

Watch on YouTube

Watched half and then got bored. The video consists mostly of him overpowering inferior opponents. 2 of his 3 spin moves were blatant travels. Did not make a single tough pass. Very little dribbling ability. Shooting stroke looks awkward.

Obviously he isn't bad, but Ayton reminds me a lot of Drummond. Drummond is one of the most overrated players in the NBA and it would be a significant mistake to take Drummond #1. Ayton is a better shooter but not sure if he can shoot well enough to displace the shots that his teammates would be taking.

Drummond hahaha go get laid bro


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[tria]

Well now you can be even more sure he is coming, his biggest wish to win Euroleague with Real before coming over is fullfiled. And he is Euroleague champion, Euroleague MVP, Euroleague Final 4 MVP + Eurobasket Champion and Eurobasket Ideal 5. Only thing missing is Spanish League MVP, but this one i think is not that important to him and i don't think he will get it this year. One he can get is Spanish Finals MVP.

I wish he would focus on the draft from here on out but you can’t blame him for wanting to keep playing. When do the playoffs start?

I actually don't know why he should focus on draft. Only thing he can do is to tell some team he doesn't want to play for them. He has done everything he can and in my opinion no private workouts should be of any importance.

He is under contract with Real Madrid and Real Madrid is playing for victory. Everytime and everywhere. This is not some NBA development league from which players can just walk away from.

Playoffs with 8 teams will be between 27th May to 23rd of June:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_ACB_Playoffs

He already said he will not attend the draft personaly if Real will still be playing.

[jpengland]

By far the best player in this draft IMO.

You can't teach the feel for the game Doncic has.

His physical limitations are wildly overblown too. His first step is fine and he ca rise pretty quickly. Plus he thinks that split second before everyone else which means hemakes maximum use of his physical abilities.

[lambchop]

Well now you can be even more sure he is coming, his biggest wish to win Euroleague with Real before coming over is fullfiled. And he is Euroleague champion, Euroleague MVP, Euroleague Final 4 MVP + Eurobasket Champion and Eurobasket Ideal 5. Only thing missing is Spanish League MVP, but this one i think is not that important to him and i don't think he will get it this year. One he can get is Spanish Finals MVP.

I wish he would focus on the draft from here on out but you can’t blame him for wanting to keep playing. When do the playoffs start?

I actually don't know why he should focus on draft. Only thing he can do is to tell some team he doesn't want to play for them. He has done everything he can and in my opinion no private workouts should be of any importance.

He is under contract with Real Madrid and Real Madrid is playing for victory. Everytime and everywhere. This is not some NBA development league from which players can just walk away from.

Playoffs with 8 teams will be between 27th May to 2rdth of June:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_ACB_Playoffs

He already said he will not attend the draft personaly if Real will still be playing.

Yea just the idea of him saying "ok guys sorry I can't stay for the playoffs, have to go to the states to shoot 1 on zero jumpers and layups in front of nba coaches so that they can be certain I'm not 6'4" is unfathomable to me