Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

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I'm ok with Lakers trading anyone not named BI as long as it included Deng. No need to panic and empty the entire cupboard for a player that has said he will come next year. Spurs saying that they have more leverage because a Kawhi trade will guarantee a Bron signing is just smoke and mirrors. It's MORE telling that Spurs agreed to re-engage Lakers in trade talks. Everyone knows the Lakers are the last team Spurs would deal with.

The fact that they are now talking to them means that Kawhi has been successful to scare off other teams, and Spurs finally came to their senses to do deal now. Once Bron officially opts out of his contract the Spurs lose all fake leverage they're trying to drum up. Let's face it, Bron is for sure going to opt out. If he was going to Opt in, he would have done so by now and avoided the drama. He also would have been in discussions with Cavs this whole time instead of shutting them out.



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SAS is an organization that isn't about adding talent just for the sake of talent, they value talent that fits their culture. I don't see them betraying that belief and making a move for talents they're not thrilled about or talents they'd consider counter to their culture. Frankly, I don't think the Spurs covet Ingram and Ball at all.

I could see SAS keeping Kawhi and letting him walk instead of panicking and adding pieces that don't fit the puzzle just for the sake of getting some talent back. They also have a penchant for identifying value and talents in the draft, don't think rebuilding is as a dire situation as some are making it out to be.

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Is SAS sending LA on a wild goose chase? It sounds like they are trying to bait them into making a bad deal to thwart them from signing 2 max FAs. It's comedy the Kawhi may not like the attention. It's probably another reason SAS think they can turn this around. Smh this is too much.

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SAS is an organization that isn't about adding talent just for the sake of talent, they value talent that fits their culture. I don't see them betraying that belief and making a move for talents they're not thrilled about or talents they'd consider to counter to their culture. Frankly, I don't think the Spurs covet Ingram and Ball at all.

I could see SAS keeping Kawhi and letting him walk instead of panicking and adding pieces that don't fit the puzzle just for the sake of getting some talent back. They also have a penchant for identifying value and talents in the draft, don't think rebuilding is as a dire situation as some are making it out to be.

Jaylen Brown would be a good SAS fit. There would need to be assurances to put him on the table though.

[nzahir]

Say the Lakers send Ingram, Kuzma, Deng and picks for Kawhi

If they want to sign PG they will need Randle to sign for like 7 million or walk

Would Lakers rather have like 20-25 million in cap space(randle gets 10-15 million a year) to spend on some guys and randle? Or PG and little cap space left(fill in team with min vets and exceptions)?

My question is who would LA's 3rd scorer be if they dont get PG. Randle or Lonzo? Meh

Sign a guy like Reddick, Tyreke, or Barton? I didn't like what I say from Hood in Cle

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I'm ok with Lakers trading anyone not named BI as long as it included Deng. No need to panic and empty the entire cupboard for a player that has said he will come next year. Spurs saying that they have more leverage because a Kawhi trade will guarantee a Bron signing is just smoke and mirrors. It's MORE telling that Spurs agreed to re-engage Lakers in trade talks. Everyone knows the Lakers are the last team Spurs would deal with.

The fact that they are now talking to them means that Kawhi has been successful to scare off other teams, and Spurs finally came to their senses to do deal now. Once Bron officially opts out of his contract the Spurs lose all fake leverage they're trying to drum up. Let's face it, Bron is for sure going to opt out. If he was going to Opt in, he would have done so by now and avoided the drama. He also would have been in discussions with Cavs this whole time instead of shutting them out.



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Well Ingram could be the point of contention. If SAS is possibly trying to get other teams to up their offers, say Philly, then it makes perfect sense to let it be known they talked to LA. If they can get it reported that the lakers are up to dealing Ingram then they can play that against another offer.

[XXBKXX]

SAS is an organization that isn't about adding talent just for the sake of talent, they value talent that fits their culture. I don't see them betraying that belief and making a move for talents they're not thrilled about or talents they'd consider to counter to their culture. I just don't see LAL offering a package that meets SAS wants without a 3rd team. I could see SAS keeping Kawhi and letting him walk. The SAS organization has time and time again identified value and talents in the draft, don't think rebuilding is as a dire situation as some are making it out to be.

So Stephen Jackson and Dennis Rodman were players whom attitudes fit Spurs' "culture"? Make no mistake about it, every GM's main goal is to get as much talented players. Personality and culture fits are all ancillary luxuries that gets thrown out the window if you can secure the best talent available.

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Only if they are still trying to contend. In reality, if they trade Kawhi they should attempt to rebuild/tank, and in that case 2 years of Deng won't really have any impact on the team and the far greater upside of Ingram than anything the Sixers would offer would be well worth it.

Ingram has no upside worth talking about. He's a neg RPM, sub-15 PER talent. Shooting is nothing to write home about(53 TS). Injury prone too. What a great prospect. Def worth taking on Deng's horrible contract. If Pop/Buford want to drive the franchise out of the city, there's quicker ways to do it than forcing the fans to endure years of watching leftover garbage from the Lakers. Might as well trade Kawhi to OKC for Carmelo and be done with it.

Sixers package is better by default because those youngsters haven't been tainted with the cancer known as the Lakers youth development program.

Lol, this is def one of the worst. Ingram went 18+ppg and 54%+ fg in March. He will get much better physically and mentally.

Ingram will be a top 15 player in the NBA as long as he doesn't suffer a horrific injury or die. Book it.

Honestly I wouldn't trade Ingram for Kawhi. We will get Kawhi for free next year and the Spurs can suck it.

I’m higher on Kuzma than I am Ingram. Kuzma to me has the single highest ceiling and most dynamic game of all the players being thrown around in trade scenarios. If I’m looking at it from the Spurs perspective his offensive game resembles Kawhi as a guy that is a slasher type that can iso or play off the ball but doesn’t jack up a bunch of wild shots. And he only costs about 7 mil over the next 3 years. I suspect the Spurs want both and LA is trying to hold onto one or the other. I also suspect the Lakers will blink before the Spurs.


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I call BS on the spurs willing to trade with the lakers before the season starts

[bigbreakfast]

SAS is an organization that isn't about adding talent just for the sake of talent, they value talent that fits their culture. I don't see them betraying that belief and making a move for talents they're not thrilled about or talents they'd consider to counter to their culture. I just don't see LAL offering a package that meets SAS wants without a 3rd team. I could see SAS keeping Kawhi and letting him walk. The SAS organization has time and time again identified value and talents in the draft, don't think rebuilding is as a dire situation as some are making it out to be.

So Stephen Jackson and Dennis Rodman were players whom attitudes fit Spurs' "culture"? Make no mistake about it, every GM's main goal is to get as much talented players. Personality and culture fits are all ancillary luxuries that gets thrown out the window if you can secure the best talent available.

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You named two players that each played 2 seasons with them. Jackson came back for a short stint later iirc. One of the players you named played for them literally 25 yrs ago. A pretty big reach to use those 2 outliers to disprove what I said.

Bottom line I really don't think the Lakers put together a package to entice the Spurs to move Leonard, they'll need a 3rd team willing to bring something to the table or I think the Spurs stay put and ride it out with Kawhi.

[FlyingArrow]

The Spurs have no reason to make a move before LeBron does.

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Thoughts?? Does he mean Kawhi's health?

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[XXBKXX]

SAS is an organization that isn't about adding talent just for the sake of talent, they value talent that fits their culture. I don't see them betraying that belief and making a move for talents they're not thrilled about or talents they'd consider to counter to their culture. I just don't see LAL offering a package that meets SAS wants without a 3rd team. I could see SAS keeping Kawhi and letting him walk. The SAS organization has time and time again identified value and talents in the draft, don't think rebuilding is as a dire situation as some are making it out to be.

So Stephen Jackson and Dennis Rodman were players whom attitudes fit Spurs' "culture"? Make no mistake about it, every GM's main goal is to get as much talented players. Personality and culture fits are all ancillary luxuries that gets thrown out the window if you can secure the best talent available.

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You named two players that each played 2 seasons with them. Jackson came back for a short stint later iirc. One of the players you named played for them literally 25 yrs ago. A pretty big reach to use those 2 outliers to disprove what I said.

Bottom line I really don't think the Lakers put together a package to entice the Spurs to move Leonard, they'll need a 3rd team willing to bring something to the table or I think the Spurs stay put and ride it out with Kawhi.

There's no way Spurs can bring back Kawhi after all that they did to him and what has been said. Spurs had their alumni players criticize him in public.. now with all these comments that he doesn't want to step foot in Spurs arena or come back. It'll be vitriolic if he comes back. It will be a huge distraction... Reporters will bring it up every day in training camp, practice, pre game and post game.. fans will boo every time he touches the ball. The Spurs fanbase or front office doesn't have the appetite to deal with that kind of drama. For sure he's gone before training camp.

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SAS is an organization that isn't about adding talent just for the sake of talent, they value talent that fits their culture. I don't see them betraying that belief and making a move for talents they're not thrilled about or talents they'd consider to counter to their culture. I just don't see LAL offering a package that meets SAS wants without a 3rd team. I could see SAS keeping Kawhi and letting him walk. The SAS organization has time and time again identified value and talents in the draft, don't think rebuilding is as a dire situation as some are making it out to be.

So Stephen Jackson and Dennis Rodman were players whom attitudes fit Spurs' "culture"? Make no mistake about it, every GM's main goal is to get as much talented players. Personality and culture fits are all ancillary luxuries that gets thrown out the window if you can secure the best talent available.

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That would be your opinion but it clearly isn't that of the Spurs based on every decision they've made during Pop's tenure. Rodman predated Pop who never coached him. Pop didn't even become coach until 97 after TD was drafted. As for Jackson, whom Pop actually cut in the middle of the season during his second stint, congratulations! You found the one example where Spurs couldn't get a guy to buy into his role. Spurs take culture and personality and fit very seriously. It's anything but a luxury to them.

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So Stephen Jackson and Dennis Rodman were players whom attitudes fit Spurs' "culture"? Make no mistake about it, every GM's main goal is to get as much talented players. Personality and culture fits are all ancillary luxuries that gets thrown out the window if you can secure the best talent available.

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You named two players that each played 2 seasons with them. Jackson came back for a short stint later iirc. One of the players you named played for them literally 25 yrs ago. A pretty big reach to use those 2 outliers to disprove what I said.

Bottom line I really don't think the Lakers put together a package to entice the Spurs to move Leonard, they'll need a 3rd team willing to bring something to the table or I think the Spurs stay put and ride it out with Kawhi.

There's no way Spurs can bring back Kawhi after all that they did to him and what has been said. Spurs had their alumni players criticize him in public.. now with all these comments that he doesn't want to step foot in Spurs arena or come back. It'll be vitriolic if he comes back. It will be a huge distraction... Reporters will bring it up every day in training camp, practice, pre game and post game.. fans will boo every time he touches the ball. The Spurs fanbase or front office doesn't have the appetite to deal with that kind of drama. For sure he's gone before training camp.

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That's hilarious to me. Spurs can't control past stars or anyone else on giving their opinion anymore that LA can control Kobe, Shaq, Kareem or any of their past players opinions. Heaven forbid he goes to LA and someone actually criticizes him. Oh the travesty. He will want to leave then right? Please. This is part of being a star. I suspect he will learn that lesson and get over it no matter where he ends up.
Spurs can't deal with it? No Kawhi is who would hate it more. Spurs FO won't be at every game answering questions, Kawhi will. If it really goes that far i suspect uncle will do some pr to keep Kawhi from being put in that situation.

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Thoughts?? Does he mean Kawhi's health?

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He means that the lakers are about to blow it up in the near future. That probably also includes him in some package.

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So Stephen Jackson and Dennis Rodman were players whom attitudes fit Spurs' "culture"? Make no mistake about it, every GM's main goal is to get as much talented players. Personality and culture fits are all ancillary luxuries that gets thrown out the window if you can secure the best talent available.

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You named two players that each played 2 seasons with them. Jackson came back for a short stint later iirc. One of the players you named played for them literally 25 yrs ago. A pretty big reach to use those 2 outliers to disprove what I said.

Bottom line I really don't think the Lakers put together a package to entice the Spurs to move Leonard, they'll need a 3rd team willing to bring something to the table or I think the Spurs stay put and ride it out with Kawhi.

There's no way Spurs can bring back Kawhi after all that they did to him and what has been said. Spurs had their alumni players criticize him in public.. now with all these comments that he doesn't want to step foot in Spurs arena or come back. It'll be vitriolic if he comes back. It will be a huge distraction... Reporters will bring it up every day in training camp, practice, pre game and post game.. fans will boo every time he touches the ball. The Spurs fanbase or front office doesn't have the appetite to deal with that kind of drama. For sure he's gone before training camp.

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Yes a **** situation for the Spurs for sure. I think the Spurs are under pressure to move Leonard for the reasons you mentioned. However, I think the Lakers are under more pressure to make the move to get Leonard and LBJ. I mean, think of the fall out as the FO that had the chance, but couldn't get, LBJ and Kawhi. It's a stand off, I think the likelihood is the Lakers cave first.

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Is SAS sending LA on a wild goose chase? It sounds like they are trying to bait them into making a bad deal to thwart them from signing 2 max FAs. It's comedy the Kawhi may not like the attention. It's probably another reason SAS think they can turn this around. Smh this is too much.

Tweets from random people count as legitimate sources? Gullible.

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Is SAS sending LA on a wild goose chase? It sounds like they are trying to bait them into making a bad deal to thwart them from signing 2 max FAs. It's comedy the Kawhi may not like the attention. It's probably another reason SAS think they can turn this around. Smh this is too much.

Tweets from random people count as legitimate sources? Gullible.

Nah just entertained. All the smoke from all the so called peking duck sauces is comedy to me. Been reacting to all of it.