Woj: Anthony Davis Traded to Lakers for Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, & Three 1st Rnd Picks - including #4

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Re: Woj: Anthony Davis Traded to Lakers for Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, & Three 1st Rnd Picks - including #4 

Post#301 » by PaKwAn » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:00 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
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Pharmcat wrote:Pelicans got less now than in February . That's what you get for trolling another GM instead of making a good faith negotiation offer


How?
The 4th pick might be a better asset than anything that was offered back in Feb? Kuzma is the only asset they didn't get from the Lakers.



They were already offering the pick in February...plus kuz and zubac ...they got less now.

The thing is if they get AD at that time then they would have won more games and changed there odds to move up... Them moving up was the best thing lakers got to get this deal done.
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Post#302 » by Profound23 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:00 pm

If I’m New Orleans I’m trying to trade that fourth pick with other picks or Holiday to move up for Morant.
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Re: Woj: Anthony Davis Traded to Lakers for Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, & Three 1st Rnd Picks - including #4 

Post#303 » by Froob » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:00 pm

Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
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It's a major L.

Ainge BOTCHED it horribly.


We don't know what went on behind the scenes. Maybe AD refused to sign an extension with Boston if they traded for him?


This isn't the only thing he botched.

He should have traded for Kawhi last year too.

If he deals Tatum and all these guys and AD leaves next year are you here saying he botched the trade?
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Re: Woj: Anthony Davis Traded to Lakers for Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, Josh Hart, & Three 1st Rnd Picks - including #4 

Post#304 » by B-Ball Freak » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:01 pm

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He's an Eagles fan, no? :dontknow:


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Post#305 » by JoeBarryCaroll » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:01 pm

TheNewEra wrote:Griffin folded



My gosh, he just got a group of promising young players and 3 future firsts one of which is #4 this year. I haven't seen the protections on the other 2 firsts but if they aren't protected and if one of them isn't due for 4 years that could be a very high pick since it will be the year after lebron's deal is up. Typically his former teams tank very hard the year after he leaves.

I honestly don't know how Grif could have done any better than he just did. I think that was a hell of a deal for the Pels
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Post#306 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:01 pm

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Didn't get kuzma or zubac.


Zubac makes no sense with a team that has Zion. So I doubt they would've resigned him anyways. The added value in that pick is more than Kuzma's value.



They were ready getting the pick in Feb plus kuzma...now no kuzma...pels acted unprofessionally in February and they ended up getting less.


In February that pick was looking like it wasn't going to be a top 10 pick. The value now for it is very different. Plus if they do the trade then, AD goes to LA mid season and chances are that pick isn't even a lotto pick.
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Post#307 » by 510TWSS » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:01 pm

This combined with the inaction with Kawhi is not a good look for Ainge.

Great deal for the Pels given the circumstances. 3 1sts and potential to flip either ball or Hart. Keep Jrue at least till the deadline.

Seems like a lot to give up but no all star talent coming back, guess I can see the justification. Lakers still get the best player in the trade so I can’t complain from their side.
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Post#308 » by HoopsterJones » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:02 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:Lakers have plenty of guys they can get to fill out the roster with their remaining roster.

Seth Curry - 3/15
Melo - Vet Min
Wade - Vet Min
Noah - Vet Min
JJ Reddick - 2/16
Robin Lopez

Not everyone of them of course but they have options. Or do Butler max, then MLE offer Seth.


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Melo retired and just doesn’t know it yet
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Post#309 » by Don Ford » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:02 pm

bargnanimvp wrote:Lakers fans must be furious, they've just spent multiple seasons telling us how amazing ingram and ball are and how they are going to be better than Kidd and KD and now they've been traded.


Absolutely, we're all furious that the Lakers traded for AD. Imagine how furious we'll all be if they're able to sign another big FA.
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Post#310 » by teke184 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:02 pm

BVB24 wrote:Lakers sign Jimmy Butler or Kemba Walker and they're the best team in the West.

Stupid Pelicans..



Name a team willing to offer near what LA did.

Stupid 28 other teams listening to Rich Paul.
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Post#311 » by 6ixSideSniper » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:02 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:Anyone saying this was dumb for NOP is out of their freaking mind. It was an awesome deal for them! They could look something like this next year

Garland/Ball
Holiday/Moore
Ingram/Hart
Williamson
Randle/Okafor

Instant rebuild and they could even get younger if they traded Holiday for #6 and drafter Culver. That is probably the best rebuilding team in the league with 2 fresh rookie contracts.


The Pelicans had no leverage at all and managed to make it out like bandits.

I wouldn’t be suprised the Kuzma news was a smokescreen to try to get a bigger haul from the Lakers.
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Post#312 » by OriginalRed » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

Great news for the Warriors.

You're no longer going to be the most hated team in basketball anymore next year if the Lakers sign another big free agent and make another Superteam.
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Post#313 » by bwgood77 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
TheNewEra wrote:Who do the Pelicans even draft at 4?


I think it all depends on what they do with Holiday and Ball. If they can flip ball for the 6th or 7th pick. Garland at #4 and Cam at 6 or 7 makes a ton of sense.


Despite liking Zion, I don't know that Cam would want to continue playing under his spotlight..

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2836657-cam-reddish-says-national-spotlight-on-zion-williamson-little-bit-unfair
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Post#314 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

How freaking lucky did LA get with the lotto this year. Their pick jumps all the way up to #4, while NO gets the #1 pick. Which took away any chance of a team offering Zion to get AD. Got extremely lucky in two ways.
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Post#315 » by Maury2423 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

Trade Zo to Chicago or PHX for their pick, draft Garland with the 4th pick, and Culver or Hunter with the 6th or 7th pick
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Post#316 » by r0drig0lac » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

HoopsterJones wrote:So does Jimmy Butler or Kawhi join them on the Lakers? That would be......something. No depth though.

Kawhi is not a guy who joins other players, as the teams are currently formed, Raptors would probably beat the Lakers in a series
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Post#317 » by TheGOATRises007 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

Froob wrote:
Eddy_JukeZ wrote:
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We don't know what went on behind the scenes. Maybe AD refused to sign an extension with Boston if they traded for him?


This isn't the only thing he botched.

He should have traded for Kawhi last year too.

If he deals Tatum and all these guys and AD leaves next year are you here saying he botched the trade?


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Post#318 » by DaddyCool19 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

The 3 picks are they then for the 2021, 2023 and 2025 drafts?

Imagine Davis pulling a Dwight and leaving the Lakers. That could seriously cripple them for a while
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Post#319 » by Middle Child » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
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Didn't get kuzma or zubac.


Zubac makes no sense with a team that has Zion. So I doubt they would've resigned him anyways. The added value in that pick is more than Kuzma's value.



They were ready getting the pick in Feb plus kuzma...now no kuzma...pels acted unprofessionally in February and they ended up getting less.


It’s not the #4 pick if they make the trade in February.

They still should have gotten Kuzma however.
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Post#320 » by Scalabrine » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:03 pm

This is a great haul for the Pelicans and should set them up with a nice, fun, young group to develop for the next few years.

They could open up about 18 million in capspace from what I'm seeing too.

Wood/Okafor
Zion/Hill
Ingram/Williams
Holiday/Hart/Moore
Ball/Holiday

+ they have the 4th pick (maybe they can move that to Atlanta for 8 and 10 or Boston for 14 and next years Memphis pick and keep collecting assets).
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