Pascal Siakam Will Be A Top 5 Player This Season

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Will Siakam be a top 5 player at the end of the season?

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Post#301 » by Pennebaker » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:08 am

ajones9219 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I don't know how we got to this point, but these things are true:

• Kobe settled with his accuser and admitted to unwanted sexual interaction

• And? How in the hell are we here?


Except he didnt admit to anything and I'd love to see proof to the contrary


"I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did."
"I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."
"I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure."
"I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night."

He admitted that she thought she was being raped by him and he apologized for making her feel like she was being raped.
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Re: Pascal Siakam Will Be A Top 5 Player This Season 

Post#302 » by Metallikid » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:21 am

ajones9219 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I don't know how we got to this point, but these things are true:

• Kobe settled with his accuser and admitted to unwanted sexual interaction

• And? How in the hell are we here?


Except he didnt admit to anything and I'd love to see proof to the contrary


Please delete your post or I will report it. It is off-topic and derailing.
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Post#303 » by Metallikid » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:21 am

Pennebaker wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I don't know how we got to this point, but these things are true:

• Kobe settled with his accuser and admitted to unwanted sexual interaction

• And? How in the hell are we here?


Except he didnt admit to anything and I'd love to see proof to the contrary


"I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did."
"I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."
"I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure."
"I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night."

He admitted that she thought she was being raped by him and he apologized for making her feel like she was being raped.


Please delete your post or I will report it. It is off-topic and derailing.
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Post#304 » by MrPerfect1 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 6:32 am

mickie wrote:
UnReasonablySober wrote:I don't know how we got to this point, but these things are true:

• Kobe settled with his accuser and admitted to unwanted sexual interaction

• And? How in the hell are we here?


A decent human being would, when a person passed away, burry all negative things that person did because he is not here to defend himself... that's what decent human beings do..

**i fixed your username as well**


This isn't remotely true. History classes literally couldn't be taught if you weren't supposed to talk about the negative things people have done who are no longer here.

How would you teach about WWII for example or The Crusades?
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Post#305 » by Reeko » Fri Feb 21, 2020 7:41 am

Pennebaker wrote:
ajones9219 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:I don't know how we got to this point, but these things are true:

• Kobe settled with his accuser and admitted to unwanted sexual interaction

• And? How in the hell are we here?


Except he didnt admit to anything and I'd love to see proof to the contrary


"I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did."
"I now understand how she feels that she did not consent to this encounter."
"I can only imagine the pain she has had to endure."
"I want to apologize to her for my behavior that night."

He admitted that she thought she was being raped by him and he apologized for making her feel like she was being raped.


He acknowledged her feelings regarding the matter. That is not an admission of guilt. Furthermore that statement was coerced, as the prosecution required it of him in exchange for them dropping the case.
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Post#306 » by kio80 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:04 am

I see 23 delusional Raptor fans in the poll at the moment. Come on crazy dinosaur boys, let’s see if we can hit 50 by tonight!


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Post#307 » by DCRYsing89 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:17 am

kio80 wrote:I see 23 delusional Raptor fans in the poll at the moment. Come on crazy dinosaur boys, let’s see if we can hit 50 by tonight!


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I am gonna jump on the bandwagon, fun to think that he will be a top 5 player one day, he has a fun style of play.

But to think he is a top 5 player now is a bit delusional...
Let’s list some guys...
Giannis, Bron, Luka, AD, Kawhi, Dame, Harden all easily better, with strong arguement as for Jimmy, Embiid, Jokic ....
But next year, and the year after I can’t say, he has been improving emensely and deep down I do wish he develops into a top 5 player.
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Re: Pascal Siakam Will Be A Top 5 Player This Season 

Post#308 » by fbalmeida » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:10 am

Ranking different players, who play different positions, who have different roles, for different teams, is really good stuff for getting viewcounts up, and b-ball merchandise marketeers' undies wet.

Largely irrelevant when it comes to assessing how they fit into a team's winning strategy.

Siakam's extra-gear on both ends of the court in last year's playoffs, was completely overshadowed by Kawhi's historic run.
It won't be this year.

Fun times ahead.
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Post#309 » by fbalmeida » Fri Feb 21, 2020 10:21 am

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Post#310 » by The_Hater » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:57 pm

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Post#311 » by carnage24 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 1:58 pm

:rofl: im dying here
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Post#312 » by The_Hater » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:05 pm

Metallikid wrote:Well, he's officially Top 10.

Say what you will, but Ninjabro was closer to being right than he was to being wrong.


Well let’s not get carrried away here. He’s not ‘officially’ top 10 of anything since it’s an opinion based topic and when you consider that he isn’t going to be either 1st or 2nd team all NBA this season (likely 3rd but not written in stone yet) and both Durant and Curry aren’t playing he wouldn’t make the top 10 of most people’s lists including this Raptor fan. And even then the difference between the 10th best NBA player and the 5th best is far greater than the difference between say #25 and #10. That’s a jump from all star level to all time great level. It’s a huge gap.

But he is likely a solid top 15 at this point and that’s higher then I would have guessed in the preseason, but the OP is still very far off of this ridiculous prediction.
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Post#313 » by Duffman100 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:35 pm

Right now Pascal is top 20. Maybe top 15. He's not top 10 yet.

He goes into funks, his defense has taken a hit this year.

Next year, maybe he keeps taking huge steps. Or it's very possible we'll just see a slightly more refined version of this version of Pascal.
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Post#314 » by GiannisAnte34 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 2:53 pm

fbalmeida wrote:Ranking different players, who play different positions, who have different roles, for different teams, is really good stuff for getting viewcounts up, and b-ball merchandise marketeers' undies wet.

Largely irrelevant when it comes to assessing how they fit into a team's winning strategy.

Siakam's extra-gear on both ends of the court in last year's playoffs, was completely overshadowed by Kawhi's historic run.
It won't be this year.

Fun times ahead.


I love your optimism. I hope so badly that the Bucks match up with the Raps
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Post#315 » by The_Hater » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:08 pm

GiannisAnte34 wrote:
fbalmeida wrote:Ranking different players, who play different positions, who have different roles, for different teams, is really good stuff for getting viewcounts up, and b-ball merchandise marketeers' undies wet.

Largely irrelevant when it comes to assessing how they fit into a team's winning strategy.

Siakam's extra-gear on both ends of the court in last year's playoffs, was completely overshadowed by Kawhi's historic run.
It won't be this year.

Fun times ahead.


I love your optimism. I hope so badly that the Bucks match up with the Raps


Weren’t you among the many Bucks fans making that exact same wish just last season? The guy from my sig has been completely MIA this season. He still hasn’t recovered....

Nothing good came come from this matchup for you. The Bucks would be he heavy favourite against the Raps so if they win, it’s a shoulder shrug by the entire basketball world and if you get upset then it’s suddenly one of the biggest chokes in NBA playoff history. I would think that Bucks fans have higher goals this season then simply winning the east but maybe I’m wrong?
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I dont get how so many people believe in the raptors,they have zero to chance to win it all.


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Post#316 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:11 pm

Is he top 5? No. Is he a really good player? Absolutely.
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Post#317 » by GiannisAnte34 » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:13 pm

The_Hater wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
fbalmeida wrote:Ranking different players, who play different positions, who have different roles, for different teams, is really good stuff for getting viewcounts up, and b-ball merchandise marketeers' undies wet.

Largely irrelevant when it comes to assessing how they fit into a team's winning strategy.

Siakam's extra-gear on both ends of the court in last year's playoffs, was completely overshadowed by Kawhi's historic run.
It won't be this year.

Fun times ahead.


I love your optimism. I hope so badly that the Bucks match up with the Raps


Weren’t you among the many Bucks fans making that exact same wish just last season? The guy from my sig has been completely MIA this season. He still hasn’t recovered....

Nothing good came come from this matchup for you. The Bucks would be he heavy favourite against the Raps so if they win, it’s a shoulder shrug by the entire basketball world and if you get upset then it’s suddenly one of the biggest chokes in NBA playoff history. I would think that Bucks fans have higher goals this season then simply winning the east but maybe I’m wrong?


If you check my join date, it would be impossible that I posted on this forum before the ECF last summer

I was confident we would trounce the Celtics even after losing the 1st game. Never was I confident that we would beat a team with Kawhi playing unstoppable ISO scoring offense and playing elite man defense on the other end, not to mention having a DPOY caliber anchor disrupting passing lanes, another super lengthy savvy veteran paint protector, and multiple elite wing defenders.

This year? The Raps are not close to their level last season. Losing Kawhi and Danny Green will hurt your offense much more than most Raps fans are willing to accept here. No doubt the Raps will still be very tough defensively, but their offense will be mediocre without Kawhi and Green. inb4 WaT aBoUt MaLcOlM bRoGdAn
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Post#318 » by The_Hater » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:16 pm

GiannisAnte34 wrote:
The_Hater wrote:
GiannisAnte34 wrote:
I love your optimism. I hope so badly that the Bucks match up with the Raps


Weren’t you among the many Bucks fans making that exact same wish just last season? The guy from my sig has been completely MIA this season. He still hasn’t recovered....

Nothing good came come from this matchup for you. The Bucks would be he heavy favourite against the Raps so if they win, it’s a shoulder shrug by the entire basketball world and if you get upset then it’s suddenly one of the biggest chokes in NBA playoff history. I would think that Bucks fans have higher goals this season then simply winning the east but maybe I’m wrong?


If you check my join date, it would be impossible that I posted on this forum before the ECF last summer

I was confident we would trounce the Celtics even after losing the 1st game. Never was I confident that we would beat a team with Kawhi playing unstoppable ISO scoring offense and playing elite man defense on the other end, not to mention having a DPOY caliber anchor disrupting passing lanes, another super lengthy savvy veteran paint protector, and multiple elite wing defenders.

This year? The Raps are not close to their level last season. Losing Kawhi and Danny Green will hurt your offense much more than most Raps fans are willing to accept here. No doubt the Raps will still be very tough defensively, but their offense will be mediocre without Kawhi and Green. inb4 WaT aBoUt MaLcOlM bRoGdAn


So you think a Raptor team without Kawhi isn’t as strong as one with Kawhi?

This is riveting, ground breaking analysis. You’ve got me on the edge of my seat wanting more. :wink:
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Masai is overrated.
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Re: Pascal Siakam Will Be A Top 5 Player This Season 

Post#319 » by old skool » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:18 pm

Siakam is a good player that every NBA team would want to have. Ranking him as top 5, or 10, or 15, or 25 is likely an exercise based more on what someone doesn't know about NBA players than it is about a balanced in-depth understanding of NBA talent.

No need to deify him as top 5 to prove that the Raptors are underrated. No need to vilify him as top 25 to prove that the Raptors are overrated.

Zion Williamson is probably ranked higher than Siakam by many because he is averaging 29/10/3 per 36 after just 10 games. (Small sample size, small sample size!!! It's not like anyone would anoint a player as top 5 after just 5 games! Oh, wait .. )

The addition of Zion to the NBA scene does not diminish Siakam's stature as a good player.

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Post#320 » by GordanFreeman » Fri Feb 21, 2020 3:20 pm

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