Celtics exposed?

Jables · Post #301 » by **Jables** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:23 am

It's pure Celtics hate to focus on their weakness, they aren't contending anyway. The Clippers aren't exactly doing any better with their front court.

Curmudgeon · Post #302 » by **Curmudgeon** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:23 am

LOL. Tremont Waters is better than Markelle Fultz for 1/40th of the money.

itrsteve · Post #303 » by **itrsteve** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:49 am

TheRealKaboom wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
Snotbubbles wrote:
This is a poor way of looking at rebuilds. Each one is different. How you do during the rebuilding process isn't relevant. It's all about accumulating star players.

Of course every rebuild is different but the ultimate goal is to win basketball games not accumulate star players.

At the end of the day, over that time period, the Celtics have won more basketball games and got further into the playoffs more consistently than any of the other teams mentioned. To me, that means they've been more successful
Wrong. The ultimate goal is to win championships, not basketball games. You do that by acquiring star players.

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Good point, now that I think about it, there’s no team I can think of that got a chip without making moves for an established star player.

Post #304 » by **Darth Celtic** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:55 am

Curmudgeon wrote:LOL. Tremont Waters is better than Markelle Fultz for 1/40th of the money.

Both Celtics 2nd round picks are better than Fultz, and it's not by a little.

itrsteve · Post #305 » by **itrsteve** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 1:59 am

Darth Celtic wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:LOL. Tremont Waters is better than Markelle Fultz for 1/40th of the money.

Both Celtics 2nd round picks are better than Fultz, and it's not by a little.

Fultz has plenty of time to figure his game out and I hope he does.

Plus, it would be great to make a GB post in 2038 entitled “Philly Exposed” when they’re paying 67 year old Al Horford $27m.

celtxman · Post #306 » by **celtxman** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:47 am

robbie84 wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
robbie84 wrote:

Right, getting Kevin Garnet from all those small moves wasn't a home run.
Getting Isaiah Thomas from all those small moves wasn't a home run.
Signing Al Horford wasn't a home run.
Signing Hayward wasn't a home run.
Finding Brad Stevens wasn't a home run.
Trading a depleted IT for Kyrie Irving wasn't a home run.
Drafting Jayson Tatum wasn't a home run.
Drafting Jaylen Brown wasn't a home run.
Drating Marcus Smart wasn't a home run.
Signing Kemba Walker wasn't a home run.

Getting those picks, then making the Jaylen, Smart and Tatum picks for the corpses of KG and Pierce wasn't a home run? C'mon man.

Dude's a fkn animal, you're way too pessimistic.
At least 5 of those are fails

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List at least 5 of them then.
Lol

Hopefully he comes back . It would be wrong to leave us hanging on his brilliant take.

Pelly24 · Post #307 » by **Pelly24** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:58 am

I wouldn't say exposed. What I will say is that the Celtics are very unlucky in the fact that none of Hayward Tatum or Brown will be all-stars this year. If you'dve told me this would be the outcome in summer 2017 I'dve said GTFOH. This is a lesson and cashing in before it's too late.

bfchs123 · Post #308 » by **bfchs123** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:17 am

15 pages of trash after 1 game in the preseason, never change GB

Team looked great tonight, especially the starters

manlisten · Post #309 » by **manlisten** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:44 am

I don't know why Orlando was scheduled for 4 games in 6 days during preseason but it worked in Boston's favor. Vuc also didn't play. Magic were missing all kinds of open shots. Lots of bad statlines for the Celtics, wouldn't say they're out the woods yet.

FlatearthZorro · Post #310 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:14 am

SmartWentCrazy wrote:Watching the Celtics tonight, I cant help but think that theyre missing Marcus Morris’ defense...

And Kyrie's leadership. Too bad the toxic young guys Brown and Tatum chased him away.

robbie84 · Post #311 » by **robbie84** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:58 am

Pelly24 wrote:I wouldn't say exposed. What I will say is that the Celtics are very unlucky in the fact that none of Hayward Tatum or Brown will be all-stars this year. If you'dve told me this would be the outcome in summer 2017 I'dve said GTFOH. This is a lesson and cashing in before it's too late.

That's a bold claim.
Kemba taking a lot of shots but they are all getting 30+ mins a night and more shots.
Horford, Morris, Kyrie, Rozier all gone and replaced by Kemba, Kanter and some rookies.

LewisnotMiller · Post #312 » by **LewisnotMiller** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 8:38 am

manlisten wrote:I don't know why Orlando was scheduled for 4 games in 6 days during preseason but it worked in Boston's favor. Vuc also didn't play. Magic were missing all kinds of open shots. Lots of bad statlines for the Celtics, wouldn't say they're out the woods yet.

'The Woods'?
They've played 2 preseason games, one without Kemba, and win them both, one in a complete pantsing.

Boston fans aren't seeing this team as a contender, but apart from your own hot take, how are they in the woods?

I check my own bias by looking at Vegas over unders...things are less biased when it's pure money at stake.
There is no plunging market on the Celts, so by all means, take the chance to place what you see as a safe bet.

Tiny ball · Post #313 » by **Tiny ball** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:46 am

AussieCeltic wrote:Time for a “Magic exposed?” Thread

They had won three and took the game off. Its pre season. They owned the Celtics last year if I remember correctly. Why go all out for a team you think is cream puff.

Tiny ball · Post #314 » by **Tiny ball** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:49 am

itrsteve wrote:
TheRealKaboom wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:
Of course every rebuild is different but the ultimate goal is to win basketball games not accumulate star players.

At the end of the day, over that time period, the Celtics have won more basketball games and got further into the playoffs more consistently than any of the other teams mentioned. To me, that means they've been more successful
Wrong. The ultimate goal is to win championships, not basketball games. You do that by acquiring star players.

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Good point, now that I think about it, there’s no team I can think of that got a chip without making moves for an established star player.

I forget who did GS and San Antonio get?

Post #315 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:26 am

manlisten wrote:I don't know why Orlando was scheduled for 4 games in 6 days during preseason but it worked in Boston's favor. Vuc also didn't play. Magic were missing all kinds of open shots. Lots of bad statlines for the Celtics, wouldn't say they're out the woods yet.

Lol, I love the sound of haters grasping for straws— its beautiful.

kuclas · Post #316 » by **kuclas** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:43 am

It’s funny people want to play small ball and forget the center is the most important position for the defense in basketball. Unless u have a strong 4 defender (aka Paul Milsap) paired with an average center defender. U cannot get away with a center who cannot defend that well. And yes. Milsap helps Jokic out a lot.

So unless Boston’s young bigs improved. It’s gonna to be a young problem for them all season.

Even my sixers realize this program. The minute embiid went out of the game. The center defense became a joke. Teams attack at will. Just image not having rim protection for 30 minutes. Not a good sign for Boston unless Williams can develop or the big fella Fall can give them minutes as well.

orlando_joe · Post #317 » by **orlando_joe** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 11:53 am

Darth Celtic wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:LOL. Tremont Waters is better than Markelle Fultz for 1/40th of the money.

Both Celtics 2nd round picks are better than Fultz, and it's not by a little.

all that from 20 min of play wow... :crazy:

ok...I got some land that's dry a couple days a yr will you buy it on high...

orlando_joe · Post #318 » by **orlando_joe** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:06 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
manlisten wrote:I don't know why Orlando was scheduled for 4 games in 6 days during preseason but it worked in Boston's favor. Vuc also didn't play. Magic were missing all kinds of open shots. Lots of bad statlines for the Celtics, wouldn't say they're out the woods yet.

Lol, I love the sound of haters grasping for straws— its beautiful.

lol.i love the sound of dreamers that have 1 quarter of great preseason thinking there great.. sorry didn't magic sweep boston in reg season last yr?

Post #319 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:13 pm

orlando_joe wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
manlisten wrote:I don't know why Orlando was scheduled for 4 games in 6 days during preseason but it worked in Boston's favor. Vuc also didn't play. Magic were missing all kinds of open shots. Lots of bad statlines for the Celtics, wouldn't say they're out the woods yet.

Lol, I love the sound of haters grasping for straws— its beautiful.

lol.i love the sound of dreamers that have 1 quarter of great preseason thinking there great.. sorry didn't magic sweep boston in reg season last yr?

Dreamers? No one thinks the Celtics are great. They are firmly in the 3-7 range in the east with a ceiling of the second round in the playoffs. Whats ridiculous is how everyone castigated Boston because of a preseason game vs Charlotte. Its preseason, it means incredibly little.

As to your last point, id invite you to reread some of my posts in this thread, including one where I said that people shouldnt overreact to preseason games. However, I am absolutely going to clown those who **** all over the Celtics because of their ridiculous extrapolations on one preseason game.

Bad-Thoma · Post #320 » by **Bad-Thoma** » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:13 pm

In the 15-16 season the Celtics had a top ten defense with Kelly Olynyk and Tyler Zeller as our centers. The defense is a sum of it's parts, not just predicated on it's weak link.