Shams: Jrue Holiday Traded to Bucks for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, Three 1st Round Picks, 2 Future Draft Pick Swaps

[Repeat 3-peat]

I wonder if Bledsoe and Hill gets flipped for assets? This deal isn't final yet.

[NO-KG-AI]

I really think the Bucks needed a goto end of the game scorer to win a ship... but I guess this is the Greek Freak betting on himself that he can become that.

If he could develop a jumper and become a closer than this is all he needs to win. If not then Jrue is an upgrade but not in the area they need to win.

Whose available out there that was a bucket at the end of games? Holiday would be the closest thing to that he and rondo are the reason they won that Portland series. People say Paul he’s not scoring in the fourth like that holiday is better

Paul is like the best crunch time scorer in the game last year . He’s way more talented as a scorer than Jrue from basically every spot on the floor.

[God Squad]

one Raptors ring is worth so much more than a Laker ring. it was so much more exciting for the league.

lol don't worry we'll be back for more while your fan base dream of greek in tor fades n build right way? you had a once in a lifetime trade, i guess trading for Kawahi wasnt "buy" it huh? lol

As a Bucks fan no it wasn't. They didn't trade for a guy that forced his way there or even one that said he'll resign with them. They saw their shot and they took it.

Pretty drastic difference then a star like I dunno say AD saying I wanna play for the Lakers trade me there

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Ignore this clown RRyder. He's clearly trolling and trying to derail.

[Jkam31]

I really think the Bucks needed a goto end of the game scorer to win a ship... but I guess this is the Greek Freak betting on himself that he can become that.

If he could develop a jumper and become a closer than this is all he needs to win. If not then Jrue is an upgrade but not in the area they need to win.

Whose available out there that was a bucket at the end of games? Holiday would be the closest thing to that he and rondo are the reason they won that Portland series. People say Paul he’s not scoring in the fourth like that holiday is better

Well... CP3 was the best closer in the NBA last year so that's just wrong.

But I would never advocate trading for a 35 year old PG.

I guess only Harden is the confirmed closer out there, not sure if Middleton and 5 first round picks get it done or not.

And as much hate as he gets, Paul George may have been another option.

It's not a terrible trade by any means, just not the ideal one as the final piece for the Bucks championship. The equation remains the same... can Greek Freak hit end of game mid range shots for the win or not. If he can then he's LeBron, if he can't he's what he is right now.

I think it's a good trade, solid at bat. But not a sure home run. I'm not sure PG is what they needed as ideally, you'd want the ball in the Greek Freaks hands. But again it improves their strengths and keeps their weaknesses the same so it's a solid trade.

PG wasn’t available and I’m not entertaining talk of Paul being a closer come on man

[sca]

Unpopular opinion: There's not much difference between Jrue and Bledsoe, Jrue has always been overrated and this is a bad deal for the Bucks.

[Duke4life831]

What. The. ****?

That was the best offer? Good luck Jrue

It's an extremely high potential, okay floor kind of trade. So I get why Griff did it. If Giannis doesnt resign, no team would come close to matching this.

But if he does resign, you got two tradeable contracts and ya not high value 1st round picks, but still 1st round picks you can toss into a future trade to sweeten the pot. Im sure there were better guaranteed returns out there, but I can see why they sided with this one with the crazy high potential.

It's gambling that Giannis leaves, but giving him Jrue as a reason to stay. I get that it's a lot of picks, but I'm not feeling this.

I totally get it, my first post on here I ripped Griffin. Again I think no doubt they couldve gotten a better guaranteed return, but I get taking a big swing.

Im hoping Griffin can flip the 24 pick, Bledsoe and Hill into something for this year. Then wait and see if Giannis resigns or not. If he doesnt, they hit the jackpot, if he does those picks become big time trade pieces. If Giannis does resign, I think those picks become solid trade sweeteners. Either way all these assets should be moved, it would be pointless to wait on draft picks 4 and 6 years from now when you already have your #1 and #2 guys.

[Jkam31]

I really think the Bucks needed a goto end of the game scorer to win a ship... but I guess this is the Greek Freak betting on himself that he can become that.

If he could develop a jumper and become a closer than this is all he needs to win. If not then Jrue is an upgrade but not in the area they need to win.

Whose available out there that was a bucket at the end of games? Holiday would be the closest thing to that he and rondo are the reason they won that Portland series. People say Paul he’s not scoring in the fourth like that holiday is better

Paul is like the best crunch time scorer in the game last year . He’s way more talented as a scorer than Jrue from basically every spot on the floor.

Best crunch time scorer did you see him in the playoffs

[Tor_Raps]

Unpopular opinion: There's not much difference between Jrue and Bledsoe, Jrue has always been overrated and this is a bad deal for the Bucks.

Bledsoe is a poor man's Jrue. I agree the gap isn't huge but Jrue does everything slightly better than Bledsoe. Now is that worth Hill, 3 picks and 2 swaps? Hellll noooooo

[Jcity08]

Unpopular opinion: There's not much difference between Jrue and Bledsoe, Jrue has always been overrated and this is a bad deal for the Bucks.

Advanced stats suggest Jrue is more impactful offensively than Bledsoe. That alone to me makes Jrue more valuable.

[NinjaBro]

3 first rounders and 2 pick swaps over the next 5 years is the kind of haul that was traded for Anthony Davis and Paul George. You're telling me that to go from Bledsoe to Holiday, that's what it takes? There's THAT kind of difference between them? Yeah right.

And Holiday is a free agent after this year! He could easily walk.

If it brings the Bucks over the top and win the championship or Giannis stays, then it's worth it. Bucks had to do something and I respect them for going for it. On the surface it's a lot but this trade can't be judged until this postseason.

[God Squad]

What. The. ****?

That was the best offer? Good luck Jrue

It's an extremely high potential, okay floor kind of trade. So I get why Griff did it. If Giannis doesnt resign, no team would come close to matching this.

But if he does resign, you got two tradeable contracts and ya not high value 1st round picks, but still 1st round picks you can toss into a future trade to sweeten the pot. Im sure there were better guaranteed returns out there, but I can see why they sided with this one with the crazy high potential.

I see the majority hating this trade for the Bucks. If you were Griff would you go another route? Like you said I see the appeal of both sides.

[DaddyCool19]

Any protections on those picks?

[Coach Carter]

The overpay was due to rival teams being interested and bledsoe being such a bum that his value had hit rock bottom.

[NoZoLakers]

Unpopular opinion: There's not much difference between Jrue and Bledsoe, Jrue has always been overrated and this is a bad deal for the Bucks.

playoffs should prove the difference between the 2

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If they dont win it all, it will backfire in a ugly way
Bucks FO got guts though, all in !!

[Mr B]

Damn Bucks are killing it!


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[Duke4life831]

What. The. ****?

That was the best offer? Good luck Jrue

It's an extremely high potential, okay floor kind of trade. So I get why Griff did it. If Giannis doesnt resign, no team would come close to matching this.

But if he does resign, you got two tradeable contracts and ya not high value 1st round picks, but still 1st round picks you can toss into a future trade to sweeten the pot. Im sure there were better guaranteed returns out there, but I can see why they sided with this one with the crazy high potential.

I see the majority hating this trade for the Bucks. If you were Griff would you go another route? Like you said I see the appeal of both sides.

In my opinion, I probably would've gone a different direction. I wouldve probably focused on something around Myles Turner. It probably wouldve required a 3rd team, but I feel like the Pels probably couldve gotten Turner and a late or heavily protected 1st in return for Jrue. Im kind of more into the build your team now view point though, since I believe the Pels should believe they have their #1 and #2 guys, time to start building around them now. I think if you could draw up the ideal 5 to go next to Zion, its Turner. An elite defensive 5 that can stretch the floor. I then wouldve tried to flip Hayes (I think he has no future alongside Zion) for a young shooter like a Kennard or something.

I get the idea of asset collection. Its a little far down the road in my opinion (Im assuming we are talking 2024 and 2026 picks). But again I get the idea of the HR potential if Giannis leaves. So Im sure Griff looked at it as, we can have the next Boston/Nets deal, or worst case we have major asset collection. I get both that point of view, even though its probably not the route I wouldve chosen.

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3 first rounders and 2 pick swaps over the next 5 years is the kind of haul that was traded for Anthony Davis and Paul George. You're telling me that to go from Bledsoe to Holiday, that's what it takes? There's THAT kind of difference between them? Yeah right.

And Holiday is a free agent after this year! He could easily walk.

If it brings the Bucks over the top and win the championship or Giannis stays, then it's worth it. Bucks had to do something and I respect them for going for it. On the surface it's a lot but this trade can't be judged until this postseason.

If they dont win, and Giannis resign, will be ugly, it will be even harder do upgrade the roster. But they are totally better now for this year run, as AD trade proved no one remembers the picks you sent when the return helps winning a champioship. And so will be if Bucks win

[God Squad]

It's an extremely high potential, okay floor kind of trade. So I get why Griff did it. If Giannis doesnt resign, no team would come close to matching this.

But if he does resign, you got two tradeable contracts and ya not high value 1st round picks, but still 1st round picks you can toss into a future trade to sweeten the pot. Im sure there were better guaranteed returns out there, but I can see why they sided with this one with the crazy high potential.

I see the majority hating this trade for the Bucks. If you were Griff would you go another route? Like you said I see the appeal of both sides.

In my opinion, I probably would've gone a different direction. I wouldve probably focused on something around Myles Turner. It probably wouldve required a 3rd team, but I feel like the Pels probably couldve gotten Turner and a late or heavily protected 1st in return for Jrue. Im kind of more into the build your team now view point though, since I believe the Pels should believe they have their #1 and #2 guys, time to start building around them now. I think if you could draw up the ideal 5 to go next to Zion, its Turner. An elite defensive 5 that can stretch the floor. I then wouldve tried to flip Hayes (I think he has no future alongside Zion) for a young shooter like a Kennard or something.

I get the idea of asset collection. Its a little far down the road in my opinion (Im assuming we are talking 2024 and 2026 picks). But again I get the idea of the HR potential if Giannis leaves. So Im sure Griff looked at it as, we can have the next Boston/Nets deal, or worst case we have major asset collection. I get both that point of view, even though its probably not the route I wouldve chosen.

It's looking like the Bucks are gonna win the deal once the Boggy S&T is finalized. Giannis should resign also. I bet griffin regretting it somewhat if better offers were on the table.

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