Lebron fouls Stewart, leading to Altercation Pt. Duex

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Since when where mods allowed to edit our polls? I just woke up and I am 100% sure this is not what I wrote

A lot of moderators are unKlutchSports bots at this point here. It's really sad to see.

RealGM of 10 years ago rolling over in its grave. The worst part is everyone now believes I wrote "I am still doing research"

Uh, no. Lebron swung to to move the arm from his rib cage and accidently caught Stewart's face. He did intentionally hit Stewart but it wasn't an intentional hit to his face. The Edited poll seems very anti-Lebron and is only adding fuel to the same fire they are trying to put out. Hilarious.

Stewart meanwhile acts like a complete lunatic for 15 minutes and we are all supposed to look the other way ? He should get fined just for being a fake tough guy after players got in-between him and Lebron.

[MotownMadness]

If just find it funny LeBron starts backing up to keep at least a 30 foot separation between him and Stewart even tho there's like a million people between them.

Because he's looking at how much of an idiot Stewart looks like and is probably just laughing at the dude. Bron had no interest in fighting and he shouldn't have....its LeBron freaking James. Stewart is a nobody that'll probably be out of the league in a couple of years if we're being honest.

I also find it funny how people are saying Stew would ruin Bron when Bron had him leaking so much after a swipe away. Bron aint scared of that dude. Russ wasnt even scared of him

Its not high school bro (LeBron is so much more popular it matters in the moment of rage). Um no I would imagine he seen a huge ass dude blacked out plowing people over coming at him and he's not really a tough guy to defend himself properly in that situation.

Ain't nobody gives a **** who's more popular there with your he's just a nobody comment. He was also a serviceable player last year that hustles and plays with non stop energy that landed him on 2nd team All Rookie and isn't going to be out of the league soon

Also he had him leaking cause he cracked him in the eyebrow and that is a known spot to split wide open.

[infinite11285]

What happened to part 1 of this topic?

Apparently they deleted the whole thing.

Tbh I don't really understand why that was deleted. I created the initial thread and people posted their polarizing and emotional opinions which they're doing here also.

It's my fault.

I intended to split the OP onto a separate and new thread, but couldn't due to a technical issue. The first thread went way off the rails; trolls (about 10, by my count) began invoking CCP, the Rittenhouse case, and violently arguing like two opposing coaches in a prizefight. Rather than littering the thread with strikes, I opted for a fresh start and deleted the old thread due to the technical issue. I knew posters wanted to discuss what happened, and I did my best to preserve the ability to do so.

My apologies...

[SinceGatlingWasARookie]

My vote is to suspend LeBron for a game for cutting Stewart and to suspend Stewart for a game for disturbing the peace.

I think LeBron is a punk prima donna who may think he can get away with anything. He should be suspended just to get through to him that maybe he won't akways get away with doing whatever he wants.

I voted Still researching but there is nothing to research unless a better camera angle shows up. Elbowing Stewart on purpose is not behavior inconsistent with my impression of LeBron but that does not mean LeBron Elbowed Stewart on purpose. On the other hand what was LeBron's elbow doing being up,so high? Was Stewart bent over? It look to me like Stewart is an inch or two taller than LeBron which puts Stewrt's eye even higher in the air.

If video emerges that clarify's what LeBron's intention was then I might change my opinions about the appropriate suspension for LeBron. If the cut was an 80% probable accident then I would not suspend LeBron. If It was 80% probabl that LeBron intentionally hurt Stewart then I would suspend LeBron for more than one game.

The video I have seen doesn't give you a clue as to LeBron's intention.

My expectation is that Stewart will be suspended and LeBron will not be suspended. Suspending LeBron would be an indication that LeBron did something wrong. Acting like LeBron did something wrong might slightly decrease LeBron's value as an NBA hero. The league makes money from fans idolizing LeBron. From a financial standpoint the NBA should not in any way knock LeBron off his pedista.
From Stewart's reaction I've got a suspicion that LeBron did not apologize to Stewart. LeBron should have immediately apologized to Stewart. If people heard LeBron say anything at my affect my opinion on what the appropriate action is.

[Diop]

I voted Still researching but there is nothing to research unless a better camera angle shows up. Elbowing Stewart on purpose is not behavior inconsistent with my impression of LeBron but that does not mean LeBron Elbowed Stewart on purpose. On the other hand what was LeBron's elbow doing being up,so high?.

seeing Lebron hit him with a closed fist, you should definitely keep researching

[Jfh20]

This was intentional. A cheap shot out of frustration from losing and airballing a three on the previous drive. Lebron cant handle losing, thats why he always leaves games before they finish. hes done it many times now, did it against the heat,suns and did it against the bulls. He feels like the nba should bow down to him and let the king reign on the nba, if he feels like his status is being challenged he will not take it too well. He sees the rest of the nba as beneath him and has no respect whatsoever for others. He didnt even respect the 73 win warriors by wearing the ultimate warrior shirt after cleveland won.

The nba is most likely going to brush this off as an accident and a fine of 50k. I doubt they will suspend Lebron, he gets away with everything and i dont see this being any different. While i dont expect any suspension from this, i think its clear this at the least revelealed to everyone who lebron really is and has always been. He was just very good at containing it all these years to protect his brand but this is who he is.

[Diop]

If just find it funny LeBron starts backing up to keep at least a 30 foot separation between him and Stewart even tho there's like a million people between them.

Because he's looking at how much of an idiot Stewart looks like and is probably just laughing at the dude. Bron had no interest in fighting and he shouldn't have....its LeBron freaking James. Stewart is a nobody that'll probably be out of the league in a couple of years if we're being honest.

I also find it funny how people are saying Stew would ruin Bron when Bron had him leaking so much after a swipe away. Bron aint scared of that dude. Russ wasnt even scared of him

Its not high school bro (LeBron is so much more popular it matters in the moment of rage). Um no I would imagine he seen a huge ass dude blacked out plowing people over coming at him and he's not really a tough guy to defend himself properly in that situation.

Ain't nobody gives a **** who's more popular there with your he's just a nobody comment. He was also a serviceable player last year that hustles and plays with non stop energy that landed him on 2nd team All Rookie and isn't going to be out of the league soon

Also he had him leaking cause he cracked him in the eyebrow and that is a known spot to split wide open.

I have no problem with Lebron backing away as fighting is just dumb in general.
Saying that, I would have apologised straight away if I accidently hit someone in the face.

[MotownMadness]

Because he's looking at how much of an idiot Stewart looks like and is probably just laughing at the dude. Bron had no interest in fighting and he shouldn't have....its LeBron freaking James. Stewart is a nobody that'll probably be out of the league in a couple of years if we're being honest.

I also find it funny how people are saying Stew would ruin Bron when Bron had him leaking so much after a swipe away. Bron aint scared of that dude. Russ wasnt even scared of him

Its not high school bro (LeBron is so much more popular it matters in the moment of rage). Um no I would imagine he seen a huge ass dude blacked out plowing people over coming at him and he's not really a tough guy to defend himself properly in that situation.

Ain't nobody gives a **** who's more popular there with your he's just a nobody comment. He was also a serviceable player last year that hustles and plays with non stop energy that landed him on 2nd team All Rookie and isn't going to be out of the league soon

Also he had him leaking cause he cracked him in the eyebrow and that is a known spot to split wide open.

I have no problem with Lebron backing away as fighting is just dumb in general.
Saying that, I would have apologised straight away if I accidently hit someone in the face.

I have no problem with someone not wanting to fight. Just people trying to make some fake reality that LeBron was acting a certain way cause of his popularity and Stewart will be out of the league soon to make LeBron sound special here.

I actually thought it had to be a accident cause I just couldn't ever picture LeBron getting hostile enough to throw a closed fist but he did.

Its no different then standing next to someone on the street and they just split you open. You would probably need a minute to calm down from being so pissed naturally. Not really about basketball anymore in that moment.

[PistolPeteJR]

Just need to post the best angle of the event... This was a closed fist strike to the face. This was on purpose and deserves suspension.

Read on Twitter

There is no he was just swiping...

There is no accidental elbow...

It is a closed fist to the face.

That is not intentional. That is simply a case of flailing when someone's latching on to you in order to get them off of you. The only thing is that the flail resulted in a pop in the face.

[PistolPeteJR]

Lebron's fist appears to be limp/not clinched in that close up view. Looks like to me he was trying to rip his arm free and the contact directly to Stewarts face appeared incidental.

This is exactly it.

[Lost Angel]

Since when where mods allowed to edit our polls? I just woke up and I am 100% sure this is not what I wrote

A lot of moderators are unKlutchSports bots at this point here. It's really sad to see.

RealGM of 10 years ago rolling over in its grave. The worst part is everyone now believes I wrote "I am still doing research"

I’ve been posting on RealGM for 20 years. If this is true,
I’m going to be incredibly disappointed. When I read it, I thought it sounded like a strange option, especially since we can all see what happened. It’s a blatant yes or no question.

[iamworthy]

Any attention that should be on LeBron will now go to Stewart who was running around the arena bleeding looking line a mad man. even if it wasn't intentional LeBron should be suspended, for how many games is up to the league. That being said, Stewart should get 5x the suspension LeBron gets. You can't have that kind of scene in that area it's just a horrible look and brings back memories of the malice in the palace. Stewart was absolutely out of control.

[Side beard]

Just need to post the best angle of the event... This was a closed fist strike to the face. This was on purpose and deserves suspension.

Read on Twitter

There is no he was just swiping...

There is no accidental elbow...

It is a closed fist to the face.

That is not intentional. That is simply a case of flailing when someone's latching on to you in order to get them off of you. The only thing is that the flail resulted in a pop in the face.

there is a difference between a hit and falling motion

[PhilBlackson]

My 2c...

It was intentional, LBJ is too smart to not know what he's doing. He threw an elbow to back him off, probably initially thought it would catch him in the chest but instead clipped him in the face, it happens in a physical game, obv probably didn't think it would have him leaking...and no he didn't really want smoke but that's more due to being the face of the league knowing he can't be Malace in the Palace 2.0 vs being scared of Stewart lol...

People want to laugh about LeBron allowing the ref in front of him (which is true) but Stewart did the same...he could've swung on LeBron when he first "got in his face" but it was once a few people stepped in then it was "don't hold me back" lol typical of most NBA "fights". Overall Stewart just looked childish and both deserve to be suspended with IS getting several more games because his silly performance could've ignited the crowd and/or hurt the innocent security staff. Overall just a bad/dumb look for everyone involved.

[LuDux1]

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[Kalamazoo317]

They should both get a game or two.

[MalonesElbows]

3 games for Lebron. If you let guys start taking even minor closed fist swipes like that, the NBA court is going to be bloodier than an MMA ring.

[iamworthy]

3 games for Lebron. If you let guys start taking even minor closed fist swipes like that, the NBA court is going to be bloodier than an MMA ring.

And what about Stewart?

[Hans1984]

I hope they ban Stewart from the league. This guy is mentally not ready to play in the NBA. He's a headcase.

It's not the first time this guy is losing it. Something isn't right with him.

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[Danny1616]

I would give Lebron a 1 game suspension and Stewart 3 games.

Not too much of a big deal.