Should Fred Van Vleet be an all-star?

giannis and 1 · Post #301 » by **giannis and 1** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:06 am

Yes. Really like him and OG from that Raptors team.

Tor_Raps · Post #302 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:12 am

JShuttlesworth wrote:A lot of awful takes in this thread from people who don't know anything about Fred's game, or his impact to the Raptors.

No surprise, we saw the same thing with DeRozan and Lowry a few years ago

For real... The NBA world is going crazy over Demar and Lowry now. They led the Raptors to multiple 50 win seasons and were one of the most winning teams during that time. It's almost like people think that's an easy feat for players lol.

Tor_Raps · Post #303 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:17 am

ropjhk wrote:If the Raptors are in a top 6 position when they select the players it will be very hard to deny FVV a spot.

If the Raptors can get into the top , there's a good chance that Fred AND Siakam make the allstar team.

JujitsuFlip · Post #304 » by **JujitsuFlip** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:26 am

Tor_Raps wrote:
ropjhk wrote:If the Raptors are in a top 6 position when they select the players it will be very hard to deny FVV a spot.

If the Raptors can get into the top , there's a good chance that Fred AND Siakam make the allstar team.

0% chance.

Tor_Raps · Post #305 » by **Tor_Raps** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:36 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
ropjhk wrote:If the Raptors are in a top 6 position when they select the players it will be very hard to deny FVV a spot.

If the Raptors can get into the top , there's a good chance that Fred AND Siakam make the allstar team.
0% chance.

Ya you're right... I got carried away there lol.

I was just thinking if the Cavs were getting both Garland/Allen in the allstar game than why not the Fred/Siakam who are putting up better numbers and might be ahead in the standings shortly.

everdiso · Post #306 » by **everdiso** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:37 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:
ropjhk wrote:If the Raptors are in a top 6 position when they select the players it will be very hard to deny FVV a spot.

If the Raptors can get into the top , there's a good chance that Fred AND Siakam make the allstar team.
0% chance.

Hey Boston got 2 Allstars last year while being a .500 team.

gpoon · Post #307 » by **gpoon** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:41 am

Big J wrote:
gpoon wrote:
Big J wrote:Fred simply isn't the guy who strikes me as All Star material. Stop trying to get guys into the big boy game who aren't stars. Whose spot is he taking? Tatum, Brown, Beal? C'mon man those guys are actual big name stars.

Funny how two of your big name stars play for the same team and have a worst record

Except both guys actually have star power. Fred has that scrappy undersized Rudy quality that people love to root for but no one actually takes seriously.

What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Big J · Post #308 » by **Big J** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:59 am

gpoon wrote:
Big J wrote:
gpoon wrote:
Funny how two of your big name stars play for the same team and have a worst record

Except both guys actually have star power. Fred has that scrappy undersized Rudy quality that people love to root for but no one actually takes seriously.

What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

BHF · Post #309 » by **BHF** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:12 am

Big J wrote:
gpoon wrote:
Big J wrote:
Except both guys actually have star power. Fred has that scrappy undersized Rudy quality that people love to root for but no one actually takes seriously.

What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Most posters feel the same way about you in this thread.

Big J · Post #310 » by **Big J** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:15 am

BHF wrote:
Big J wrote:
gpoon wrote:
What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Most posters feel the same way about you in this thread.

... because Raps fans can't handle the truth?

Slade3 · Post #311 » by **Slade3** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:16 am

Big J wrote:
gpoon wrote:
Big J wrote:
Except both guys actually have star power. Fred has that scrappy undersized Rudy quality that people love to root for but no one actually takes seriously.

What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Ok, what about Tatum "screams" star?

Post #312 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:19 am

Slade3 wrote:
Big J wrote:
gpoon wrote:
What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Ok, what about Tatum "screams" star?

Well when he talked about Simmons it was dating celebs and being represented by Klutch.

Big J · Post #313 » by **Big J** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:25 am

Slade3 wrote:
Big J wrote:
gpoon wrote:
What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Ok, what about Tatum "screams" star?

Everything. He was a 5 star recruit, has a bigger shoe deal, is on more commercials, people on TV actually talk about him. Fred is like a cute contrarian hipster pick.

Plossum · Post #314 » by **Plossum** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 3:54 am

aj174 · Post #315 » by **aj174** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:26 am

Fred is a lock for the game and whoever is denying it doesn't know basketball

Post #316 » by **Duffman100** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:47 am

aj174 wrote:Fred is a lock for the game and whoever is denying it doesn't know basketball

Or is trolling…

XTC · Post #317 » by **XTC** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:57 am

22/5/7
58% TS
Elite defense

Yeah he's an allstar this season.

phanman · Post #318 » by **phanman** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:25 am

Fred is peaking at the perfect moment to get his first selection as he is playing the best basketball of his career on our current 6 game winning streak. With todays game he's averaging:

31.2pts, 4.7reb, 6.7ast, 1.8stl, 0.5blk with only 1to in 36mpg shooting a 47/44/96 split.

Big game on Tuesday vs the Suns

LegendOfSalmons · Post #319 » by **LegendOfSalmons** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:36 am

Big J wrote:
Slade3 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Ok, what about Tatum "screams" star?

Everything. He was a 5 star recruit, has a bigger shoe deal, is on more commercials, people on TV actually talk about him. Fred is like a cute contrarian hipster pick.

It's getting embarassing at this point. Having a bigger shoe deal, commercials, and being talked about more doesn't make you the better player. Yes, Tatum is more marketable but he has not been a better player than Van Vleet. Learn the difference. :crazy:

MikeM · Post #320 » by **MikeM** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 6:23 am

At this point he's a lock. This thread should be closed.