2023 trade deadline (February 9)

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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#301 » by Dan Z » Thu Feb 2, 2023 2:38 am

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NyKnicks1714 wrote:Crazy prediction: Lauri Markkanen to Dallas for a treasure trove of picks.


That can't happen this deadline. Mavs can't trade a treasure trove of picks until the off-season.


They can't trade 25,27,29 1sts with 24,26,28 right-to-swaps?


Why would the Jazz do it? Lauri is an all-star on a good contract and the Jazz already have a lot of future picks.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#302 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Feb 2, 2023 3:49 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Sam Amico reporting Lakers and Hornets are talking Westbrook trade. Not sure how accurate Amico is but I know he’s been around a long time.

I can only assume, if true, it’s Westbrook for Rozier/Hayward.

Lakers would flip the deck, Hornets dump 50 million in salary through 23-24 season. And Jordan likes Westbrook. We will see if I’m right in that.


Sure if they attach one of those first rounders. Charlotte isn't some free agent Hotspot. They won't clear cap just to pray someone magically wants to come to Charlotte.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#303 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 4:09 am

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hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Sam Amico reporting Lakers and Hornets are talking Westbrook trade. Not sure how accurate Amico is but I know he’s been around a long time.

I can only assume, if true, it’s Westbrook for Rozier/Hayward.

Lakers would flip the deck, Hornets dump 50 million in salary through 23-24 season. And Jordan likes Westbrook. We will see if I’m right in that.


Sure if they attach one of those first rounders. Charlotte isn't some free agent Hotspot. They won't clear cap just to pray someone magically wants to come to Charlotte.


:lol:

Charlotte isn’t getting a first rounder for those two and their contracts. From any team.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#304 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Feb 2, 2023 4:22 am

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Sam Amico reporting Lakers and Hornets are talking Westbrook trade. Not sure how accurate Amico is but I know he’s been around a long time.

I can only assume, if true, it’s Westbrook for Rozier/Hayward.

Lakers would flip the deck, Hornets dump 50 million in salary through 23-24 season. And Jordan likes Westbrook. We will see if I’m right in that.


Sure if they attach one of those first rounders. Charlotte isn't some free agent Hotspot. They won't clear cap just to pray someone magically wants to come to Charlotte.


:lol:

Charlotte isn’t getting a first rounder for those two and their contracts. From any team.


:lol:
We would undoubtedly get a protected first rounder for Rozier. Not going to just give up quality players for your trash for some overrated cap relief. Hilarious.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#305 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:56 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sure if they attach one of those first rounders. Charlotte isn't some free agent Hotspot. They won't clear cap just to pray someone magically wants to come to Charlotte.


:lol:

Charlotte isn’t getting a first rounder for those two and their contracts. From any team.


:lol:
We would undoubtedly get a protected first rounder for Rozier. Not going to just give up quality players for your trash for some overrated cap relief. Hilarious.


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Post#306 » by NCHeels2008 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 6:03 am

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What’s the trade you’re thinking of? Something like DFS, Powell, 3 1sts, and a swap for KAT?


Christian wood is like KAT*0.75. They're much better off extending him and not giving away their assets for KAT.


i disagree on this line of thinking. That extra 25% is a huge difference in the playoffs.

That's before even getting into whether Wood is 75% of KAT. Quality > Quantity in the NBA


I would be petrified of him as my defensive center deep in the playoffs
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#307 » by chrisab123 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 10:44 am

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Good luck to Milwaukee on this one. There's no way in hell Jae is going to be happy coming off the bench for any team in the league.
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Post#308 » by Pointgod » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:12 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Sam Amico reporting Lakers and Hornets are talking Westbrook trade. Not sure how accurate Amico is but I know he’s been around a long time.

I can only assume, if true, it’s Westbrook for Rozier/Hayward.

Lakers would flip the deck, Hornets dump 50 million in salary through 23-24 season. And Jordan likes Westbrook. We will see if I’m right in that.


No one and I mean absolutely no one should be touching Gordon Hayward and his contract. In fact the Hornets should pay 2 firsts to get off that contract.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#309 » by Pointgod » Thu Feb 2, 2023 1:14 pm

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Good luck to Milwaukee on this one. There's no way in hell Jae is going to be happy coming off the bench for any team in the league.


Crowder will start since Grayson Allen goes out in ant deal. Holiday, Middleton, Crowder, Giannis, Lopez.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#310 » by Oakvillehoops » Thu Feb 2, 2023 3:49 pm

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old skool wrote:Something seems to have gone bad in Toronto. Last year the Raptors were a 48 win team. This year, with the same core roster and coaches, they are on pace to finish in the lottery with 36 wins. That type of downturn screams dissension and conflict that teams would be wise to avoid.

I would expect the Raptors to put the sources of conflict on the trade market, but I would also expect potential trade partners to moderate any offers. No one needs bad apples that can sabotage a winning team.

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I don't see dissension I see the East as a whole getting better while the Raptors, and the much praised GM Ujiri stands pat.

It's like you said they kept everybody and thought they could just maintain excellence when all that does is give the entire league the scouting report on your franchise going forward.


This is just what happens when you have a team with too many borderline stars. (But no true super star) everybody wants theirs. Nobody on our team has a bad attitude, or is a locker room problem. There’s just no consistency in how we play, because every night feels like it’s someone else’s turn to take 20+ shots. If we had a true alpha, or these guys were traded to play beside an alpha, they’d assume their proper roles.

Siakam as a second fiddle on a championship team.

FVV/OG as third fiddles
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Post#311 » by ChumboChappati » Thu Feb 2, 2023 5:41 pm

Oakvillehoops wrote:
Statlanta wrote:
old skool wrote:Something seems to have gone bad in Toronto. Last year the Raptors were a 48 win team. This year, with the same core roster and coaches, they are on pace to finish in the lottery with 36 wins. That type of downturn screams dissension and conflict that teams would be wise to avoid.

I would expect the Raptors to put the sources of conflict on the trade market, but I would also expect potential trade partners to moderate any offers. No one needs bad apples that can sabotage a winning team.

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I don't see dissension I see the East as a whole getting better while the Raptors, and the much praised GM Ujiri stands pat.

It's like you said they kept everybody and thought they could just maintain excellence when all that does is give the entire league the scouting report on your franchise going forward.


This is just what happens when you have a team with too many borderline stars. (But no true super star) everybody wants theirs. Nobody on our team has a bad attitude, or is a locker room problem. There’s just no consistency in how we play, because every night feels like it’s someone else’s turn to take 20+ shots. If we had a true alpha, or these guys were traded to play beside an alpha, they’d assume their proper roles.

Siakam as a second fiddle on a championship team.

FVV/OG as third fiddles

I think Raptors are making a big mistake trading OG. Their new core should be Trent, OG, and Barnes. They should be looking to trade FVV and/or Siakam who do not match the new core's timeline. Their Front Office has been making a lot of mistakes lately.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#312 » by ChaseDown » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:25 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Sure if they attach one of those first rounders. Charlotte isn't some free agent Hotspot. They won't clear cap just to pray someone magically wants to come to Charlotte.


:lol:

Charlotte isn’t getting a first rounder for those two and their contracts. From any team.


:lol:
We would undoubtedly get a protected first rounder for Rozier. Not going to just give up quality players for your trash for some overrated cap relief. Hilarious.


That is hilarious that you think Rozier can be exchanged for a 1st rounder. I can see it happening on NBA 2K but not in the actual NBA. Overvaluing your players is effective if you’re the actual GM, not a realGM.

IF Westbrook is traded to Charlotte for the obvious Hayward & Rozier, I don’t think any picks will be in there UNLESS MJ coughs it up for Hayward’s contract.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#313 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Feb 2, 2023 8:42 pm

ChaseDown wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:
:lol:

Charlotte isn’t getting a first rounder for those two and their contracts. From any team.


:lol:
We would undoubtedly get a protected first rounder for Rozier. Not going to just give up quality players for your trash for some overrated cap relief. Hilarious.


That is hilarious that you think Rozier can be exchanged for a 1st rounder. I can see it happening on NBA 2K but not in the actual NBA. Overvaluing your players is effective if you’re the actual GM, not a realGM.

IF Westbrook is traded to Charlotte for the obvious Hayward & Rozier, I don’t think any picks will be in there UNLESS MJ coughs it up for Hayward’s contract.


Meth is bad for you.
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Post#314 » by zshawn10 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 9:01 pm

Lot of rumors of Wood being gone

Marc Stein dropped his latest rumors (subscription required) on Feb. 2 where he noted that Wood would not return until “next week at the earliest” from his injury, and that the contract extension discussions between the two sides have not advanced past the “preliminary stages”.


https://marcstein.substack.com/p/nba-trade-deadline-midweek-update?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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The longer it goes without happening(an extension), the less likely it is. Mavericks have shown a willingness to discuss a 2-year deal. If Christian Wood wants to test the market, I don’t know that he’s going to get more money on the market this summer. I’ve talked to a lot of teams. I’ve yet to find one eager to sign up for the Christian Wood experience. … If we’re looking at Mavs rotations player most likely to be dealt before the deadline, it is Christian Wood. Having said that, finding value for him will be challenging. I was talking to an exec with another team and asked what the market is. He said “I think they can get what they gave up, they can get back. They can probably get a late first round pick if they’re willing to take salary into next season.” — Tim MacMahon
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Post#315 » by Flash4thewin » Thu Feb 2, 2023 9:09 pm

zshawn10 wrote:Lot of rumors of Wood being gone

Marc Stein dropped his latest rumors (subscription required) on Feb. 2 where he noted that Wood would not return until “next week at the earliest” from his injury, and that the contract extension discussions between the two sides have not advanced past the “preliminary stages”.


https://marcstein.substack.com/p/nba-trade-deadline-midweek-update?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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The longer it goes without happening(an extension), the less likely it is. Mavericks have shown a willingness to discuss a 2-year deal. If Christian Wood wants to test the market, I don’t know that he’s going to get more money on the market this summer. I’ve talked to a lot of teams. I’ve yet to find one eager to sign up for the Christian Wood experience. … If we’re looking at Mavs rotations player most likely to be dealt before the deadline, it is Christian Wood. Having said that, finding value for him will be challenging. I was talking to an exec with another team and asked what the market is. He said “I think they can get what they gave up, they can get back. They can probably get a late first round pick if they’re willing to take salary into next season.” — Tim MacMahon


So Wood for Duncan + this year’s first round draft pick, heck we can make it unprotected :D
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#316 » by Pointgod » Thu Feb 2, 2023 9:15 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:
zshawn10 wrote:Lot of rumors of Wood being gone

Marc Stein dropped his latest rumors (subscription required) on Feb. 2 where he noted that Wood would not return until “next week at the earliest” from his injury, and that the contract extension discussions between the two sides have not advanced past the “preliminary stages”.


https://marcstein.substack.com/p/nba-trade-deadline-midweek-update?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

Read on Twitter


The longer it goes without happening(an extension), the less likely it is. Mavericks have shown a willingness to discuss a 2-year deal. If Christian Wood wants to test the market, I don’t know that he’s going to get more money on the market this summer. I’ve talked to a lot of teams. I’ve yet to find one eager to sign up for the Christian Wood experience. … If we’re looking at Mavs rotations player most likely to be dealt before the deadline, it is Christian Wood. Having said that, finding value for him will be challenging. I was talking to an exec with another team and asked what the market is. He said “I think they can get what they gave up, they can get back. They can probably get a late first round pick if they’re willing to take salary into next season.” — Tim MacMahon


So Wood for Duncan + this year’s first round draft pick, heck we can make it unprotected :D


Lmao I love the audacity. I think Luka wouldn’t be too happy to lose the second best player on the team for Dunc and a draft pick.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#317 » by SK21209 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 9:28 pm

hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Sam Amico reporting Lakers and Hornets are talking Westbrook trade. Not sure how accurate Amico is but I know he’s been around a long time.

I can only assume, if true, it’s Westbrook for Rozier/Hayward.

Lakers would flip the deck, Hornets dump 50 million in salary through 23-24 season. And Jordan likes Westbrook. We will see if I’m right in that.


I’ve been following this league and reading trade rumors for almost 20 years now and still can’t remember if Amico or Amick is the more reputable one lol.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#318 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 9:35 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
ChaseDown wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
:lol:
We would undoubtedly get a protected first rounder for Rozier. Not going to just give up quality players for your trash for some overrated cap relief. Hilarious.


That is hilarious that you think Rozier can be exchanged for a 1st rounder. I can see it happening on NBA 2K but not in the actual NBA. Overvaluing your players is effective if you’re the actual GM, not a realGM.

IF Westbrook is traded to Charlotte for the obvious Hayward & Rozier, I don’t think any picks will be in there UNLESS MJ coughs it up for Hayward’s contract.


Meth is bad for you.


He’s not the one trying to move off marginal/injury prone players who aren’t what they once were and making too much money…thus saving 50 million in future salary to get off those contracts. AND wanting picks in return. Now that’s some damn delusions right there. No one in the league is giving you picks for those two. No one.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#319 » by hoosierdaddy34 » Thu Feb 2, 2023 9:36 pm

SK21209 wrote:
hoosierdaddy34 wrote:Sam Amico reporting Lakers and Hornets are talking Westbrook trade. Not sure how accurate Amico is but I know he’s been around a long time.

I can only assume, if true, it’s Westbrook for Rozier/Hayward.

Lakers would flip the deck, Hornets dump 50 million in salary through 23-24 season. And Jordan likes Westbrook. We will see if I’m right in that.


I’ve been following this league and reading trade rumors for almost 20 years now and still can’t remember if Amico or Amick is the more reputable one lol.
they are different people? Are we sure? :lol:

Honestly I’m not sure either which is why I added the qualifier to it.
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Re: 2023 trade deadline 

Post#320 » by ForeverTFC » Thu Feb 2, 2023 9:55 pm

Dan Z wrote:
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NyKnicks1714 wrote:Crazy prediction: Lauri Markkanen to Dallas for a treasure trove of picks.


That can't happen this deadline. Mavs can't trade a treasure trove of picks until the off-season.


They could give up their 2025 pick and beyond, but I don't see why the Jazz would do it. Lauri is an all-star on a good contract and the Jazz already have a lot of future picks.


They can't based on my understanding. The pick has protections on it and only conveys if Mavs picks is outside the top 10. It will surely convey this year, but because the protection is in place and there is possibility that it may not convey, they technically cannot trade 2025 until the pick actually conveys which is in the off-season.

So at this trade deadline, they can't trade the 2025 pick. Additionally, the protection rolls over one more year. So until the pick conveys, not only can they not trade 2025, they also can't trade 2026. Based on the rules, the earliest pick they can trade is 2027.

The pick will surely convey this year barring a season ending Injury to Luka, so this offseason, they can include the 2025 pick in a trade.

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