Cooper Flagg

[Ayt]

Either the Jazz or Nets are going to win the lottery this year, I'd be shocked if the NBA lets him go to any other team.

I mean....if we're playing the "gifted/rigged draft" cards, i'd be certain that the Bulls win the Lotto...a big market team, finally moving into the tankathon, the league "can't afford to have them continously miss the playoffs" lol

If Reinsdorf wasn't your owner I think the league would do more to make things easier for the Bulls. I'd like to see the Bulls be good again though, I'd be happy if you guys won the lottery. You guys are probably up there though with the Jazz and Nets. There's no way in hell Cooper will end up in Charlotte, Detroit, or Washington. I know that much for sure.

Do you put any thought into what you post?

[50yrceltsfan]

You said prospect which means pre draft. And Zion was superior in pretty much every way other than shooting. His season in Duke, he was viewed as elite offensively, elite defensively, a good passer, and high motor.

17 years old and cooking the national team. You wanna retract your statement?

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Stupid question, is there a way to watch that scrimmage, I assume we are talking about team USA camp? How did my guy Nigel Hayes do, did he play?

Dissapointing to hear he is still shoeter than Bam, I thought he would be taller by now.

Watch on YouTube

This is probably the longest footage currently available.

Just watched this video, and I didn't see where he "stole the show" or looked dominant, unless they cut those parts out.

Watch from 7:40 to 8:15. Dribbles out of pressure, hits a 3 over AD, then breaks up a long pass at the other end, then starts a break with a good downcourt pass, then crashes in through Bam to jam in a miss, + 1. All one continuous sequence.

[Hair Jordan]

Wow, you telling me not every prospect pan out? Gee thats crazy... If you dont like the kid, give good scouting report, not just be usual Hair Jordan guy, aka a troll.

I don’t scout 17 year old boys. Sorry. His highlight reel tells me he’s a poor man’s Brent Barry at best with less athleticism and more height. Barry was a nice role player who could hit 3’s and dunk from the FT line but never sniffed multiple All Star teams or an All NBA type of career. Let’s be honest here, if Flagg was a black kid nobody would be impressed. He’d be just another prospect. People pay attention cause he’s a white kid with a little athleticism. Lots of white kids excel in Duke’s college ball system but don’t do sh-t in the NBA (Gminski, Alarie, Bilas, Laettner, Parks, Hurley, Redick) etc. Hitting a couple buckets against Team USA in what amounts to a glorified walk thru doesn’t impress me. That was like a summer league game yesterday. People need to get a fuc-ing grip

I'd love to read what this dude thought about Luka before his draft.

“This kid is legit. His offensive game is ready made for the NBA but his defense is suspect. Bigger and stronger than he looks. Underwhelming athletically but possesses a high basketball IQ. Can be a bit of a whiner when calls don’t go his way. I expect him to lead the league in scoring one day. Good enough to lead his team to the Finals and perhaps win a few titles.”

I think my projection was spot on!

[bigboi]

Uhm, no.... that is not what he is touted to be at all....

Umm yes, that’s exactly what he’s touted to be. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/cooper-flagg-scouting-report-nba-potential/326fed9fa252876da6ec8348

Scouting report right here. 3 level scorer with athleticism and elite defense. Yall need to stop trying to bullsh*t, it’s getting ridiculous

He is elite defensive prospect with 3 level scoring to boot. MPJ was 3 level scorer with very questiobable defense. Do you really see no major difference? Might as well compare Bargnani to Wemby, because they also projected as similar scorers. I don't even know what to say...

No no no. The only difference is the defense so no, it’s nothing like bargnani vs Wemby. And even then MPJ was never a generational prospect and he looked even more athletic than Flagg. Again, what are we doing here?

Flagg is slow and is an average passer, has a high motor and is a tweener. In what way is he generational anything?

[bigboi]

Nowhere near as hyped. I’d argue Zion was more hyped than Flagg.

Zion was way more hyped. Not even a comparison

[bigboi]

Nowhere near as hyped. I’d argue Zion was more hyped than Flagg.

As he should have been coming off one of the greatest seasons in college basketball history. The guy had a 41 PER, 20.1 BPM, 133 O rating etc at Duke as a freshman. That's even before you get to the fact he was such and athletic freak with the kind of vertical he had a 300lbs. He's like a unicorn you build on 2k and it will probably be a long time if there is ever another player like him.

You want a high school stats comparison. Zion averaged 34.6ppg, 11.4rpg, 3.5apg, 3.4spg, 2.3bpg in 23.4 MINUTES per game He shot 85% from the floor. I don't care who you are playing that's insane, and yet the recruiting scouts had him rated like 6th out of high school. Nothing Flagg is doing really is. You'd expect more I think infact for the level of hype he's getting.

Thank you. Flagg’s hype is manufactured off his nba connections. He isn’t super impressive for the hype that he’s getting.

[VFX]

Nowhere near as hyped. I’d argue Zion was more hyped than Flagg.

As he should have been coming off one of the greatest seasons in college basketball history. The guy had a 41 PER, 20.1 BPM, 133 O rating etc at Duke as a freshman. That's even before you get to the fact he was such and athletic freak with the kind of vertical he had a 300lbs. He's like a unicorn you build on 2k and it will probably be a long time if there is ever another player like him.

You want a high school stats comparison. Zion averaged 34.6ppg, 11.4rpg, 3.5apg, 3.4spg, 2.3bpg in 23.4 MINUTES per game He shot 85% from the floor. I don't care who you are playing that's insane, and yet the recruiting scouts had him rated like 6th out of high school. Nothing Flagg is doing really is. You'd expect more I think infact for the level of hype he's getting.

Thank you. Flagg’s hype is manufactured off his nba connections. He isn’t super impressive for the hype that he’s getting.

What are his connections?

Why is more than half of people saying this kid isn’t as good as advertised but he’s the consensus #1 pick in a decent class?

[bigboi]

Cooper Flagg is way more hyped than Zion was at this point... Zion wasn't even the #1 prospect of his class coming into college. (That was RJ Barrett.)
Of course, Zion absolutely dominated in Duke so his hype has exploded, but Cooper Flagg doing this against the most loaded US Olympic team since at least 2012 (And honestly a legit argument for the most loaded US team since 1992) will fuel the hype train for him as well.
We'll see what Flagg does in Duke in the fall, right now I have him as the best American prospect since AD,

lol. Delusional. Even with Zion being 6th in the class, Zion was by far the most known player in the class. And by end of his Duke run, it wasn’t even close.

Flagg isn’t better than Young, Ja, Zion, nor even Fultz nor KAT. Hell, I don’t even see how dude is better than Tatum as a prospect

[bigboi]

As he should have been coming off one of the greatest seasons in college basketball history. The guy had a 41 PER, 20.1 BPM, 133 O rating etc at Duke as a freshman. That's even before you get to the fact he was such and athletic freak with the kind of vertical he had a 300lbs. He's like a unicorn you build on 2k and it will probably be a long time if there is ever another player like him.

You want a high school stats comparison. Zion averaged 34.6ppg, 11.4rpg, 3.5apg, 3.4spg, 2.3bpg in 23.4 MINUTES per game He shot 85% from the floor. I don't care who you are playing that's insane, and yet the recruiting scouts had him rated like 6th out of high school. Nothing Flagg is doing really is. You'd expect more I think infact for the level of hype he's getting.

Thank you. Flagg’s hype is manufactured off his nba connections. He isn’t super impressive for the hype that he’s getting.

What are his connections?

Why is more than half of people saying this kid isn’t as good as advertised but he’s the consensus #1 pick in a decent class?

Scal is the one that put his name out there and has been his mentor. He’s from Maine. Flagg really blew up off peach jam or one of those showcases. But him and Boozer are pretty much tied as prospects. Then you have DJ getting hyped as much as Flagg as well

[bigboi]

They play nothing alike. MPJ was a bouncy sharpshooter who was an extremely high volume scorer and was not known for his defense or facilitating.

Flagg is an elite defender and many think of him as one of the better defensive prospects to come out of American high school since AD. Flagg is also more of a fill up the stat sheet kind of player, not a high volume scorer. His 3pt shot is viewed as one of the weaker aspects of his game.

MPJ before the back injuries was a stud in high school. I just think him and Flagg are almost polar opposite kinds of players coming out of high school.

This is exactly what Flagg is touted to be. His handle is unimpressive and his distribution ability is unimpressive.

All I see with Flagg is a high motor guy. I don’t view his athleticism as elite at all either. He looks ridiculously slow and not slow like Luka who has elite change of direction. Just looks like a generic player

You think he's like MPJ but all you see is a high motor guy???????

You do realize MPJ is completely different player than he was in high school and pre back surgery

[VFX]

Thank you. Flagg’s hype is manufactured off his nba connections. He isn’t super impressive for the hype that he’s getting.

What are his connections?

Why is more than half of people saying this kid isn’t as good as advertised but he’s the consensus #1 pick in a decent class?

Scal is the one that put his name out there and has been his mentor. He’s from Maine. Flagg really blew up off peach jam or one of those showcases. But him and Boozer are pretty much tied as prospects. Then you have DJ getting hyped as much as Flagg as well

Yeah I just don’t really buy the idea that every scout and projection has him ranked #1 in the class and potentially the #1 pick next season simply because he has connections. People are either lying about this kids abilities or just hoping he sucks.

[LockoutSeason]

If this were 15 years ago, Flagg would be getting Lebron-level hype.

Today a 6’9” dude with athleticism and perimeter skills just doesn’t move the needle. He could easily end up as Frank Wagner. Good player, but not generational.

But he has looked impressive against the absolute best NBA players, albeit just a scrimmage. We need to see how he does at Duke.

[bigboi]

What are his connections?

Why is more than half of people saying this kid isn’t as good as advertised but he’s the consensus #1 pick in a decent class?

Scal is the one that put his name out there and has been his mentor. He’s from Maine. Flagg really blew up off peach jam or one of those showcases. But him and Boozer are pretty much tied as prospects. Then you have DJ getting hyped as much as Flagg as well

Yeah I just don’t really buy the idea that every scout and projection has him ranked #1 in the class and potentially the #1 pick next season simply because he has connections. People are either lying about this kids abilities or just hoping he sucks.

I’m obviously exaggerating. Flagg will be solid but I don’t see all world talent

[anotherhomer]

If this were 15 years ago, Flagg would be getting Lebron-level hype.

Today a 6’9” dude with athleticism and perimeter skills just doesn’t move the needle. He could easily end up as Frank Wagner. Good player, but not generational.

But he has looked impressive against the absolute best NBA players, albeit just a scrimmage. We need to see how he does at Duke.

No sure thing he be generational or constant all-nba but he looks like a pretty good player

[KembaWalker]

He’s got that same weird thousand yard stare that Tyler Hansbrough had

[Duke4life831]

Nowhere near as hyped. I’d argue Zion was more hyped than Flagg.

You want a high school stats comparison. Zion averaged 34.6ppg, 11.4rpg, 3.5apg, 3.4spg, 2.3bpg in 23.4 MINUTES per game He shot 85% from the floor. I don't care who you are playing that's insane, and yet the recruiting scouts had him rated like 6th out of high school. Nothing Flagg is doing really is. You'd expect more I think infact for the level of hype he's getting.

This is an apples to oranges comparison. Luke Kennard averaged almost 40ppg while grabbing 10 boards and 6 assists in high school. Who youre playing against and who youre playing with are 2 huge factors in high school stats. Dont get me wrong Zion was a beast in high school, but he was also playing against very low level talent.

You want to know what stats Flagg puts up when he isnt being a team first player and he had to average big numbers? Flagg averaged 25/13/6 with 7 blocks per game in Peach Jam last year. 3rd in scoring, 2nd in rebounding, 2nd in assists and 2nd in blocks.

Go look at Zion's high school tape and then look at Flagg's. In Zion you will see him going up against tiny non college level players. Flagg at Montverde, saw the toughest competition possible for high school ball.

[WESCO]

He looks great and worth the hype but let’s be real it’s a scrimmage.

Flag is going 120% and the greats are going 70-80%.

It’s like pro fighters sparring.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

This dude has the moxy of a Lawrence Bird, years down the road, he's gonna be like "which one of y'all finna finish 2nd"

[sikma42]

Seeing his size out there next to NBA players was helpful and informative. He looks like he should be the #1 pick in a strong draft. I don’t see generational but a strong #1 pick.

A ton of high school seniors would look good in this situation over the years. Guys like Zion, KAT, AD, John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, Jabari Parker etc…So his performance doesn’t sway much besides the fact he competed hard.

Rooting for him..seems like a nice kid (even tho he is going to Duke)


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[OriAr]

Cooper Flagg is way more hyped than Zion was at this point... Zion wasn't even the #1 prospect of his class coming into college. (That was RJ Barrett.)
Of course, Zion absolutely dominated in Duke so his hype has exploded, but Cooper Flagg doing this against the most loaded US Olympic team since at least 2012 (And honestly a legit argument for the most loaded US team since 1992) will fuel the hype train for him as well.
We'll see what Flagg does in Duke in the fall, right now I have him as the best American prospect since AD,

lol. Delusional. Even with Zion being 6th in the class, Zion was by far the most known player in the class. And by end of his Duke run, it wasn’t even close.

Flagg isn’t better than Young, Ja, Zion, nor even Fultz nor KAT. Hell, I don’t even see how dude is better than Tatum as a prospect

Zion was also playing against less than stellar competition and people wondered how that'd translate, turns out it didn't matter. RJ Barrett also absolutely dominated the FIBA U19 WC when he was 17 which only fueled his stock as a high schooler.
Flagg is quite easily better than Young, Ja, Fultz and KAT were as prospects, that kind of defense is extremely rare (Only Wemby had better defense as a prospect), Flagg is a legit 1-5 defender with fantastic defensive instincts and also a great rim protector.
His offense, while not being quite as generational as his defense, is coming along nicely too and he'll be a great offensive player as well, with ability to orchestrate the offense as a point forward, using his athleticism to get easy buckets in the paint or go to the line, and assuming his shooting comes along also provide solid spacing with his shot.
Flagg is the best American prospect since AD, and at least for his age I don't think it's particularly close.