1 Million? Seriously?

[sp6r=underrated]

Great Post Alvin Adams.

[supermario]

It's a tax write off no matter what they donate so there getting the money back. Didn't Marbury donate a million to someone a while back?

[Manocad]

no, it's whether someone is justified in expecting others to act in any certain way at all. that's why i pulled all those quotes from you, which were responses to many posters, not just the OP.

$1 million seems like a lot.

Nope, you're overgeneralizing and therefore missing the issue entirely. This is not about questioning whether or not you have a right to expect someone to, for example, not murder you, i.e. act in a certain way. This is solely about whether or not anyone has the right to expect someone else to give greater charity than they've given. I say they don't.

I agree that $1 million is a lot of money. It should be appreciated, not criticized. Regardless of whether you and the OP believe the NBA should have donated more or should be disparaged for how they donated, the simple reality is that that view isn't justified in the eyes of the general populace. If it were, you would have seen mass outrage and the NBA probably would have done something differently. The fact that there are but a few lone dissenters from the principle I--and many others here--espouse simply reinforces my statement above.

[aIvin adams]

that kind of makes it sounds like you are saying that 'you can't tell people what they can do with their money unless 50%+ of the general populace agrees with you.'

so ok ok. we agree that $1 million is a very generous number.

we just disagree on whether it's agreeable for someone to disagree with us on the nba's agreement.

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[Manocad]

that kind of makes it sounds like you are saying that 'you can't tell people what they can do with their money unless 50%+ of the general populace agrees with you.'

Nope. Missed again.

[aIvin adams]

that kind of makes it sounds like you are saying that 'you can't tell people what they can do with their money unless 50%+ of the general populace agrees with you.'

Nope. Missed again.

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[Edrees]

Really? How can people actually criticize the NBA for how much they gave. It's their money, they don't HAVE to give anything, and you're going to harp on them for only giving a millions dollars (the same amount the NFL gave)? That astounds me.

Well I agree they shouldn't be obligated to donate. I think it's silly to criticize them for donating one million dollars that's going to help a lot of lives down there. However, if they aren't willing to go way out of their way with their generosity to these kind of causes, I don't see what they are doing wasting their time restricting how NBA players dress the way they want, having an NBA cares slogan, etc.

Nothing wrong with making money, the problem is pretending that you care about so much about the world and people when really you don't.

[crossroads]

Really? How can people actually criticize the NBA for how much they gave. It's their money, they don't HAVE to give anything, and you're going to harp on them for only giving a millions dollars (the same amount the NFL gave)? That astounds me.

Well I agree they shouldn't be obligated to donate. I think it's silly to criticize them for donating one million dollars that's going to help a lot of lives down there. However, if they aren't willing to go way out of their way with their generosity to these kind of causes, I don't see what they are doing wasting their time restricting how NBA players dress the way they want, having an NBA cares slogan, etc.

Nothing wrong with making money, the problem is pretending that you care about so much about the world and people when really you don't.

They do have other money being put towards other charities.

[Got Rings]

Half of that was donated by Sheed due to his fines. The NBA is cruel!

[garcia3]

Puerto Rico last night held a concert to raise money for the Haiti cause, and we made $3.3 million dollars. I think China should be ashamed a 100x35 mile island raised more than 3 times the money they raised

Oh and our population consists in a little over 4 million people

No one should EVER be "ashamed" when you make a donation. Jeezus.

China is approximately 1067 times bigger than Puerto Rico. China's population is approximately 1.29533 BILLION people, that is about 22% the population of the whole world, PR has just 4.4 million people and yet Puerto Rico raised more than 3 times the money they did?? yes i'll say it again, THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF WHAT THEY RAISED

I hope a catastrophe like that doesn't happen to China

[LakerFanMan]

China also has about 50 times the expenses that Puerto Rico has.

[LLcoleJ]

Puerto Rico last night held a concert to raise money for the Haiti cause, and we made $3.3 million dollars. I think China should be ashamed a 100x35 mile island raised more than 3 times the money they raised

Oh and our population consists in a little over 4 million people

No one should EVER be "ashamed" when you make a donation. Jeezus.

China is approximately 1067 times bigger than Puerto Rico. China's population is approximately 1.29533 BILLION people, that is about 22% the population of the whole world, PR has just 4.4 million people and yet Puerto Rico raised more than 3 times the money they did?? yes i'll say it again, THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF WHAT THEY RAISED

I hope a catastrophe like that doesn't happen to China

China had a quake a year or so ago. 70,000 dead 20,000 "missing".

[jmb987]

China had a quake a year or so ago. 70,000 dead 20,000 "missing".

Hey Phil X, this post has WAY too much logic. Get out of here with that.

[azuresou1]

I find it astounding that garcia spent the time searching up and calculating the areas of China and PR, and the % of the world population, and yet couldn't take the time to see that China had an earthquake in Szechuan last year, which prominently had Yao asking for help around the league.

PR is a US territory that doesn't need to worry about a military, or pretty much anything. China is a rising superpower that spends more money on its military than any other nation not named the United States. PR is an economic backwater, but that's okay because again, the US takes care of everything. China is a nation.

I find it astounding that people are as stupid as garcia and imply that China is somehow obligated to raise more money for some far off nation that has absolutely no impact on it than a commonwealth which has a large deal of its expenditures covered by its protectorate, and which is in the nearby vicinity of the affected nation.

[crossroads]

Puerto Rico last night held a concert to raise money for the Haiti cause, and we made $3.3 million dollars. I think China should be ashamed a 100x35 mile island raised more than 3 times the money they raised

Oh and our population consists in a little over 4 million people

No one should EVER be "ashamed" when you make a donation. Jeezus.

China is approximately 1067 times bigger than Puerto Rico. China's population is approximately 1.29533 BILLION people, that is about 22% the population of the whole world, PR has just 4.4 million people and yet Puerto Rico raised more than 3 times the money they did?? yes i'll say it again, THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF WHAT THEY RAISED

I hope a catastrophe like that doesn't happen to China

Puerto Rico - 3.3 million from a fund raiser, donations form individual people.

China - 1 million from the government. + whatever their citizens may or may not have donated to various relief funds/charities.

Either way, in comparing the 1 million from China and the money from Puerto Rico, population has nothing to do with anything since the money from China wasn't a collection of donations from it's citizens.

[garcia3]

you guys got this all wrong, I said I hope a catastrophe like that doesn't happen to China because the overall magnitude of China's quake can't even be compared to Haiti's since Haiti was already f'ed up even before the quake, at least China is an economic powerhouse, if my memory doesn't fail me i think China's total foreign trade value was of about 2 trillion dollars last year alone

China also has about 50 times the expenses that Puerto Rico has.

PR's government is about to go bankrupt in such way they had to fire more than 20,000 government employees last year

So yea, Puerto Rico has A LOT of expenses themselves, which fall on the shoulders of the labor or working class, and China as an economic powerhouse that made 580 billion on exports only last year managed to raise, what was the approx total again?? 1 million?? okay

[LLcoleJ]

you guys got this all wrong, I said I hope a catastrophe like that doesn't happen to China because the overall magnitude of China's quake can't even be compared to Haiti's since Haiti was already f'ed up even before the quake, at least China is an economic powerhouse, if my memory doesn't fail me i think China's total foreign trade value was of about 2 trillion dollars last year alone

China also has about 50 times the expenses that Puerto Rico has.

PR's government is about to go bankrupt in such way they had to fire more than 20,000 government employees last year

So yea, Puerto Rico has A LOT of expenses themselves, which fall on the shoulders of the labor or working class, and China as an economic powerhouse that made 580 billion on exports only last year managed to raise, what was the approx total again?? 1 million?? okay

China also props up a lot fo the USA's debt, which in turn supports just about everyone. ( PR included) Your country did a fund raising effort ( the people) and raised the money. Which is awesome. However, China as a people are very poor and very rural.

The relationship with the China and the US and really most countries is a tricky one to say they least. We can't live with out them and they can't live without us. China is still rebuilding after there devastating earthquake and is heavily ... heavily leveraged money wise. It would be nice if everyone in the world can give more, but it's nice to see that everyone is at least giving.

[Bobbcats]

It's dumb to criticize groups' donations, but if you are intent on playing that game the USA donated "just" 500,000 to China for the Sichuan earthquake. Proximity plays a big role.

[Jampod]

yes i expected something like 50m, but since Haiti is corrupt you'll never know where the money will end up

Its not our job to decide where the money goes. Whether or not the spend it on useless things, at least we did our part.

[ljp24]

people who donate money to a cause have a right to know if it reached the right people.