FIBA WORLD CUP 2019 | SPAIN are new WORLD CHAMPIONS

[MagicFrenchie]

well If Serbia ad won against Spain, no doubt they would've been crowned world cup champs.

[Showdown]

A lot of players who were good in Europe, becomes much better after few seasons in NBA. Like Bogdanovic, Satoransky and such. But Bjelica and Marjanovic didnt seem like they improved like that at all.

Players that are liked by Red Star fans are always overrated and it's same situation in every sport, they start the hype and then first local and then international media jump on bandwagon.

[drekwins]

Is this box score correct? Did Serbia really jump out to a 32-7 lead? This could have easily been USA's 4th loss this summer. We should have not won the Turkey game.

Australia
France
Serbia
Turkey (stole)

Turkey and Australia are not big-time teams. The NBA needs to address how soft they have made the game. It's making our players and the product worse.

People are trying to tell that for a while now, but no they are so athletic, there was never better defenders and better basketball played. 80s and 90s players would eat this sorry bunch alive.

The problem isn't the rules that the NBA enforces, even though I agree they should make it less "soft". The main problem is them sending out the F squad and expecting to win. The world has gotten better and the US should've taken a more serious approach, which I'm expecting they will next year on the Olympics.

I disagree. Although better players would mask the problem, it's not the main issue. If you take 90% of the guys who are dominating Team USA, they would not have made our F, D or C squad... yet they're beating us. The NBA is elevating players who lack pure basketball skills. Many of these guys are or were All-Stars. IMO, the bigger issue is that the NBA has evolved into a game where these guys can succeed.... and become All-Stars. Maybe I'm a little old school (I'm 31), but I question whether or not they have "earned" the right to do so well. If they can't shoot, why should the game be officiated in a way that makes them appear better than they are? I would like the NBA to move back to a skill game.

[rale93lfc]

A consolation prize. I'm even happy a bit.

2nd to beat USA after 13 years in tournament games. (after France)

We came a long way when its underachievement for Serbia to be 5th in a World.

Well done guys, proud of you after all. See you on a Olympic qualification tournament. Goo Serbia.

When does the qualification start?

End of a June, start of July. Something like that. 4 citys, 4 tournaments with 6 teams and winner of each tournament going to Tokio Olympic. But we should be in pot 1, so shouldn't be that hard. For Rio 2016 we also played that qualification and reached Final. (Played in Belgrade tho)

[G R E Y]

Is this box score correct? Did Serbia really jump out to a 32-7 lead? This could have easily been USA's 4th loss this summer. We should have not won the Turkey game.

Australia
France
Serbia
Turkey (stole)

Turkey and Australia are not big-time teams. The NBA needs to address how soft they have made the game. It's making our players and the product worse.

Context matters. Yes, Team USA started with led legs, but then won the second Q by 21 points and it's been even ever since despite Serbia's ridiculous 3 shooting.

France is a quality team that has several players and coach who've played together several years. Team USA has put up more 3 attempts than any other team, but the accuracy on 2s, 3s, and even FTs has not been consistent, and Walker had a bad shooting game at the worst time.

Turkey had a great game against Team USA, and really waned after that. I suppose people can say 'should' have, but there's only reward for what does happen.

Australia is a team that has been coming together well, a good building program, and are now in the semis, so credit to them. The first exhibition game, Team USA beat Australia I think by 15.

Serbia lost to Argentina which has no NBA players but have played together for a while, had a great game plan and shot the lights out. In a one-and-done, favourites can get surprised by focused, experienced teams.

Yes, it's been stated several times, this is nowhere near the best team USA could field, but in a post-game presser after the quarter finals, both Pop and Donovan were a little testy about a question - yet again - of who was not on the team. They both stressed the gratitude and dedication of the guys who did bother to show up, credit to them for showing up and showing heart and taking the risk of representing their country on a transition team.

I don't think any other potential contender had to deal with a whole new coaching staff, a whole new roster, and six weeks in which to make it all work. They are getting maligned for every mistake, and are being judged by the potential of those who didn't commit rather than on the reality of their particular circumstances.

[Sgt Major]

A lot of players who were good in Europe, becomes much better after few seasons in NBA. Like Bogdanovic, Satoransky and such. But Bjelica and Marjanovic didnt seem like they improved like that at all.

Players that are liked by Red Star fans are always overrated and it's same situation in every sport, they start the hype and then first local and then international media jump on bandwagon.

They started watching basketball in 2012, courtesy of mob poodle. They simply don't know **** about this sport.

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

A consolation prize. I'm even happy a bit.

2nd to beat USA after 13 years in tournament games. (after France)

We came a long way when its underachievement for Serbia to be 5th in a World.

Well done guys, proud of you after all. See you on a Olympic qualification tournament. Goo Serbia.

When does the qualification start?

4 tournaments next summer a few weeks before Olympics. It was like that in 2016

[LordCovington33]

Is this box score correct? Did Serbia really jump out to a 32-7 lead? This could have easily been USA's 4th loss this summer. We should have not won the Turkey game.

Australia
France
Serbia
Turkey (stole)

Turkey and Australia are not big-time teams. The NBA needs to address how soft they have made the game. It's making our players and the product worse.

Australia is legit. One of the best teams in the world currently

Legit? In America, only the number 1 or 2 contenders matter. We don't care about team number 5, 6 or 7. Australia is not a bad team whatsoever. But, they not Serbia, Spain or France. Greece, Lithuania, Argentina, Croatia, Slovenia and Australia are in the next group.

There's a big difference between good teams that compete, and the powerhouses. Australia is not a powerhouse and should never beat America. There's deeper issues related to the development of American players and the rules of the NBA.

Not a powerhouse, yet they have been undefeated this tournament. They do not have the big names that the “powerhouses” have, but they have team chemistry and passion to play for their country. It is easy to understand why people love watching America lose when their fans downplay the achievements of other teams.

[m1chal]

Meanwhile in China... the game between Poland and Czech Republic is tied at 23 after first quarter.

[Message Boar]

Meh, I'm willing to give the US players a pass for today's loss. Playing 24 hours after a no doubt hard to swallow loss against the (on paper) 2nd most talented team in the tournament, who got more rest. Plus as team USA you're always going to have a bulls-eye on your back, especially when you look vulnerable. And after yesterday Serbia no doubt smelled blood in the water and an opportunity to wash away some of the bad taste that their own loss no doubt left in their mouths.

That first quarter was a little extreme, though. At least they battled back in the second.

[gh123]

A consolation prize. I'm even happy a bit.

2nd to beat USA after 13 years in tournament games. (after France)

We came a long way when its underachievement for Serbia to be 5th in a World.

Well done guys, proud of you after all. See you on a Olympic qualification tournament. Goo Serbia.

When does the qualification start?

End of a June, start of July. Something like that. 4 citys, 4 tournaments with 6 teams and winner of each tournament going to Tokio Olympic. But we should be in pot 1, so shouldn't be that hard. For Rio 2016 we also played that qualification and reached Final. (Played in Belgrade tho)

But the games start 24th of July...

[rale93lfc]

When does the qualification start?

End of a June, start of July. Something like that. 4 citys, 4 tournaments with 6 teams and winner of each tournament going to Tokio Olympic. But we should be in pot 1, so shouldn't be that hard. For Rio 2016 we also played that qualification and reached Final. (Played in Belgrade tho)

But the games start 24th of July...

Yeha, its end of June. Its finished in a week I think. And just heard if your contry want to organize it, it cost 5 milion euros to be played in your city.

[G R E Y]

Any other US team would have put the pressure on their mediocre PGs, turned them over and got themselves going in transition. The fact that they havent been able to do it even ONCE this tourney is stunning.

with Fox gone who is going to do it? Kemba is allergic to defense and mitchell is too busy chucking

Yeah, in retrospect, Fox would have been better for this tournament than any guard on the roster. He would create a lot of havoc on both ends.

Overall, though, this team is small and full of non-shooters. They have the same weaknesses as a HS or college team. That's not a coincidence. The NBA has made the rules softer so that more advanced development is no longer needed to succeed. Guys can now succeed in the NBA with mid-level skills.

You guys make it seem as if other guys were chosen over Fox. Fox declined to stay on the team. I mean, these discussions of other players so often concern those who decided not to commit and I find it so bizarre.

[zimpy27]

First there was the dream team, then there was the redeem team, now we have the reamed team.

[gh123]

End of a June, start of July. Something like that. 4 citys, 4 tournaments with 6 teams and winner of each tournament going to Tokio Olympic. But we should be in pot 1, so shouldn't be that hard. For Rio 2016 we also played that qualification and reached Final. (Played in Belgrade tho)

But the games start 24th of July...

Yeha, its end of June. Its finished in a week I think. And just heard if your contry want to organize it, it cost 5 milion euros to be played in your city.

In a week? That's fast, so players will get some rest before the actual games then, good.

[rade]

New worst clasification ever for USA team since first WC in 1950. Until now was 5th position.

[G R E Y]

Popovich lost this game by keeping White long time into the 4th quarter, they went from -2 to -10 and that was it. Don't know whose reputation took bigger hit because of this tournament, White's, Kemba's , Turner's or Popovich's reputation ?

Serbia shot lights out from the 3. That was a main difference. Mitchell was also playing with 4 fouls, and Smart was injured.

Team USA will take hits here with reactionary posts like this, but they came back from a 20+ deficit, made a game of it. I'll ask again - what other potential contender had to deal with a whole new coaching staff, a whole new roster, and six weeks in which to make it work? It doesn't happen magically because there's "USA" on the shirt. And as Serbia's loss to Argentina has shown, a one-and-done tournament can have surprises when a team with cohesion, game plan, heart, and execution is the opponent.

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

But the games start 24th of July...

Yeha, its end of June. Its finished in a week I think. And just heard if your contry want to organize it, it cost 5 milion euros to be played in your city.

In a week? That's fast, so players will get some rest before the actual games then, good.

It's 4 games

2 groups of 3 teams playing each other. Then semi finals then finals. The one in Belgrade in 2016 was Serbia, Latvia, Puerto Rico, Czech Republic, Angola and Japan. We cruised through those

[rale93lfc]

Yeha, its end of June. Its finished in a week I think. And just heard if your contry want to organize it, it cost 5 milion euros to be played in your city.

In a week? That's fast, so players will get some rest before the actual games then, good.

It's 4 games

2 groups of 3 teams playing each other. Then semi finals then finals. The one in Belgrade in 2016 was Serbia, Latvia, Puerto Rico, Czech Republic, Angola and Japan. We cruised through those

Im curious now, when is a draw and group selection? November or something like that or?

[chudak]

Meh, I'm willing to give the US players a pass for today's loss. Playing 24 hours after a no doubt hard to swallow loss against the (on paper) 2nd most talented team in the tournament, who got more rest. Plus as team USA you're always going to have a bulls-eye on your back, especially when you look vulnerable. And after yesterday Serbia no doubt smelled blood in the water and an opportunity to wash away some of the bad taste that their own loss no doubt left in their mouths.

That first quarter was a little extreme, though. At least they battled back in the second.

I do agree, but they did lose against the no. 2 team on paper, which, on paper, is probably ranked higher than this team USA squad.