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Zack M wrote:This increases Dirk's legacy 10x
He could've bolted numerous times to a title contending team, but nah he stayed, took on the challenge and won the title against the super friends.
Durant could win 5 rings but any dude with an inkling of basketball history won't put him ahead of Dirk in the GOAT list.
Amsterdam wrote:Zack M wrote:This increases Dirk's legacy 10x
He could've bolted numerous times to a title contending team, but nah he stayed, took on the challenge and won the title against the super friends.
Durant could win 5 rings but any dude with an inkling of basketball history won't put him ahead of Dirk in the GOAT list.
And why some basketball historians, won't put Lebron before Michael.
Craafty16 wrote:Amsterdam wrote:Zack M wrote:This increases Dirk's legacy 10x
He could've bolted numerous times to a title contending team, but nah he stayed, took on the challenge and won the title against the super friends.
Durant could win 5 rings but any dude with an inkling of basketball history won't put him ahead of Dirk in the GOAT list.
And why some basketball historians, won't put Lebron before Michael.
That's dumb.
LookToShoot wrote:I don't think his decision had much to do with chasing rings. Truth is, Durant missed playing in a big market on the west coast, and he sees how much fun the Warriors are having playing their style of basketball. It was the logical move. If the Thunder were still in Seattle, KD wouldn't have left.
Dominater wrote:Damn Cactus jack takin over
Dadouv47 wrote:Reservoirdawgs wrote:dbrandon wrote:
He said he wanted his jersey retired here. And then he signed with the only team that OKC pretty much universally hates.
It'd be like Kobe joining forces with the 2008 Celtics.
I'm fine with him leaving—I was emotionally prepared for that. But not to the Warriors.
So this "stabbed in the back" mentality only applies to Durant? Meanwhile, his former "fans" are free to **** talk him now that he is no longer with their team and dictate where it's acceptable for him to go? I think that's silly. He doesn't need permission from "fans" on where he should go. He played out his contract, and he played it out very well and brought the Thunder to the Finals and some incredibly entertaining seasons.
EDIT: And the Warriors are "universally hated" by OKC? They have only played in the postseason once since the Splash Bros. era, which was a few months ago and they aren't even in the same division. They may be disliked since the Warriors have put on a clinic in the past two years, but anywhere Durant went, particularly in the Western Conference, was going to be met with scorn from people.
The problem is not him going to a rival to me ( i was fine with him going to SAS). The problem is him taking the easy road. Not a better situation, another environment where he could feel better, but going for an almost automatic championship ring(s). ''We'' (as KD's fans) had so much respect for him that we thought he would embrace any challenge, with OKC, the celtics, the spurs or whatever, but with GSW its not even a challenge.
Maybe he felt too much pressure and is scared of never winning a championship. Whatever. But it's a pussy choice.
DreDay wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Reservoirdawgs wrote:
So this "stabbed in the back" mentality only applies to Durant? Meanwhile, his former "fans" are free to **** talk him now that he is no longer with their team and dictate where it's acceptable for him to go? I think that's silly. He doesn't need permission from "fans" on where he should go. He played out his contract, and he played it out very well and brought the Thunder to the Finals and some incredibly entertaining seasons.
EDIT: And the Warriors are "universally hated" by OKC? They have only played in the postseason once since the Splash Bros. era, which was a few months ago and they aren't even in the same division. They may be disliked since the Warriors have put on a clinic in the past two years, but anywhere Durant went, particularly in the Western Conference, was going to be met with scorn from people.
The problem is not him going to a rival to me ( i was fine with him going to SAS). The problem is him taking the easy road. Not a better situation, another environment where he could feel better, but going for an almost automatic championship ring(s). ''We'' (as KD's fans) had so much respect for him that we thought he would embrace any challenge, with OKC, the celtics, the spurs or whatever, but with GSW its not even a challenge.
Maybe he felt too much pressure and is scared of never winning a championship. Whatever. But it's a pussy choice.
Says it all when you'd be fine with him going to a 67 win team 2 years removed from a title, but a 73 win team 1 year removed from the title is sacrilegious. Apparently that's not an easy road.
Jeremy Lin 7 wrote:Never thought anyone could top Lebron's 2010 Decision. But there's KD joining a 73 win team....
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DreDay wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:Reservoirdawgs wrote:
So this "stabbed in the back" mentality only applies to Durant? Meanwhile, his former "fans" are free to **** talk him now that he is no longer with their team and dictate where it's acceptable for him to go? I think that's silly. He doesn't need permission from "fans" on where he should go. He played out his contract, and he played it out very well and brought the Thunder to the Finals and some incredibly entertaining seasons.
EDIT: And the Warriors are "universally hated" by OKC? They have only played in the postseason once since the Splash Bros. era, which was a few months ago and they aren't even in the same division. They may be disliked since the Warriors have put on a clinic in the past two years, but anywhere Durant went, particularly in the Western Conference, was going to be met with scorn from people.
The problem is not him going to a rival to me ( i was fine with him going to SAS). The problem is him taking the easy road. Not a better situation, another environment where he could feel better, but going for an almost automatic championship ring(s). ''We'' (as KD's fans) had so much respect for him that we thought he would embrace any challenge, with OKC, the celtics, the spurs or whatever, but with GSW its not even a challenge.
Maybe he felt too much pressure and is scared of never winning a championship. Whatever. But it's a pussy choice.
Says it all when you'd be fine with him going to a 67 win team 2 years removed from a title, but a 73 win team 1 year removed from the title is sacrilegious. Apparently that's not an easy road.
I think you're definitely on the right track..But playing with Westbrook was never fun for KD..I think he'd bolt from Seattle too given the same situation..He's a way more complete player than how he played in OKC..Watch him on TeamUSA this summer..That's the KD you're going to see next season..LookToShoot wrote:I don't think his decision had much to do with chasing rings. Truth is, Durant missed playing in a big market on the west coast, and he sees how much fun the Warriors are having playing their style of basketball. It was the logical move. If the Thunder were still in Seattle, KD wouldn't have left.
dbrandon wrote:DreDay wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:
The problem is not him going to a rival to me ( i was fine with him going to SAS). The problem is him taking the easy road. Not a better situation, another environment where he could feel better, but going for an almost automatic championship ring(s). ''We'' (as KD's fans) had so much respect for him that we thought he would embrace any challenge, with OKC, the celtics, the spurs or whatever, but with GSW its not even a challenge.
Maybe he felt too much pressure and is scared of never winning a championship. Whatever. But it's a pussy choice.
Says it all when you'd be fine with him going to a 67 win team 2 years removed from a title, but a 73 win team 1 year removed from the title is sacrilegious. Apparently that's not an easy road.
San Antonio's main guys are old and nearly done, outside of Kawhi. GS's are not. And the Spurs have a huge problem dealing with athleticism, and Parker is not worth the money he's making.
The win total is immaterial. They're not the same thing. And I think you're aware of that.
Little Digger wrote:I think you're definitely on the right track..But playing with Westbrook was never fun for KD..I think he'd bolt from Seattle too given the same situation..He's a way more complete player than how he played in OKC..Watch him on TeamUSA this summer..That's the KD you're going to see next season..LookToShoot wrote:I don't think his decision had much to do with chasing rings. Truth is, Durant missed playing in a big market on the west coast, and he sees how much fun the Warriors are having playing their style of basketball. It was the logical move. If the Thunder were still in Seattle, KD wouldn't have left.
DreDay wrote:dbrandon wrote:DreDay wrote:
Says it all when you'd be fine with him going to a 67 win team 2 years removed from a title, but a 73 win team 1 year removed from the title is sacrilegious. Apparently that's not an easy road.
San Antonio's main guys are old and nearly done, outside of Kawhi. GS's are not. And the Spurs have a huge problem dealing with athleticism, and Parker is not worth the money he's making.
The win total is immaterial. They're not the same thing. And I think you're aware of that.
Yet they still won 67 games despite all that with a near historical net rating. Talk down on the players all you want, they were incredible last season and still would have their main core intact with their trademark depth.
So yeah, it's an "easy" path. Not as easy, sure, but isn't the question about taking a challenge? You add Kevin Durant to a 67 win team that wins at least 50 games every year, with an amazing net rating? Come on. I think it's more what you said - he went to the team OKC fans hate the most.
Dadouv47 wrote:DreDay wrote:dbrandon wrote:
San Antonio's main guys are old and nearly done, outside of Kawhi. GS's are not. And the Spurs have a huge problem dealing with athleticism, and Parker is not worth the money he's making.
The win total is immaterial. They're not the same thing. And I think you're aware of that.
Yet they still won 67 games despite all that with a near historical net rating. Talk down on the players all you want, they were incredible last season and still would have their main core intact with their trademark depth.
So yeah, it's an "easy" path. Not as easy, sure, but isn't the question about taking a challenge? You add Kevin Durant to a 67 win team that wins at least 50 games every year, with an amazing net rating? Come on. I think it's more what you said - he went to the team OKC fans hate the most.
For most of Durant's and OKC's fans is most about the challenge. GSW was our newest biggest rival but our rivalry with the SAS was pretty intense too. For me it's only about the challenge. As I said, to sign KD, it would cost a lot of the spurs and they have big problems (PG, Centers). KD would have more chances to win a ring with OKC than with the spurs, but if he decided to join them i would have respected. Nothing to do with rivalry, just with the ''taking the easiest road''
LookToShoot wrote:I don't think his decision had much to do with chasing rings. Truth is, Durant missed playing in a big market on the west coast, and he sees how much fun the Warriors are having playing their style of basketball. It was the logical move. If the Thunder were still in Seattle, KD wouldn't have left.
DreDay wrote:Dadouv47 wrote:DreDay wrote:
Yet they still won 67 games despite all that with a near historical net rating. Talk down on the players all you want, they were incredible last season and still would have their main core intact with their trademark depth.
So yeah, it's an "easy" path. Not as easy, sure, but isn't the question about taking a challenge? You add Kevin Durant to a 67 win team that wins at least 50 games every year, with an amazing net rating? Come on. I think it's more what you said - he went to the team OKC fans hate the most.
For most of Durant's and OKC's fans is most about the challenge. GSW was our newest biggest rival but our rivalry with the SAS was pretty intense too. For me it's only about the challenge. As I said, to sign KD, it would cost a lot of the spurs and they have big problems (PG, Centers). KD would have more chances to win a ring with OKC than with the spurs, but if he decided to join them i would have respected. Nothing to do with rivalry, just with the ''taking the easiest road''
Warriors still had to sacrifice Bogut for Durant, he's hardly a chump and they still have major rim protection problems for now. Ask any Warriors fan and they'd tell you how big Bogut is for them.
And I truly think that Durant's decision goes much deeper than taking an "easy road". With the suggestion that Durant did not commit enough for Horford, I don't think simply winning was all that went into it. I believe he saw the Warriors team, style of play, all that stuff, as a better fit for him and where he can play with some of his close friends. And this stuff has been around since 2013, when Iguodala signed with the Warriors and mentioned it.
FemaleDogPlease wrote:LookToShoot wrote:I don't think his decision had much to do with chasing rings. Truth is, Durant missed playing in a big market on the west coast, and he sees how much fun the Warriors are having playing their style of basketball. It was the logical move. If the Thunder were still in Seattle, KD wouldn't have left.
Nah he is soft.
RaptorsLife wrote:after the intial backlash yesterday. Its not even close to the level of lebron hate that he got in 2010. Durant made the right decision. People in this theard think Dirk is better than durant lol not a chance. Durant is was way too underrated in okc hopefully going to a big market in the bay area and having every game on national television. Durant will be treated as the goat he is
