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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#321 » by LipSkinMatter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:56 am

radeonboy wrote:
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BallSacBounce wrote:Well hey, man is right, but why anyone got to "cut a check" WTF?

Take responsibility for your damn selves, and that includes Durant and the people denigrating Durant.


exactly KD decided to play...he could've took the Kawhi road but didn't.


GS knew Durant would take the bait. I mean look at KD he can get baited to respond to twitter trolls. They kept planting seeds that he would come back, questionable, and add the media talking about how KD needs to come back or else GS has no chance. KD took the bait like he can't resist responding on social media.

If GS such a good organization, they should have shut Durant down immediately and say his season was done as he was not 100% to play. Period.


I honestly can't believe what I'm reading. You should stop rooting for sports teams as you clearly take losses way too seriously. :crazy:
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#322 » by Yorkex » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:57 am

djsunyc wrote:what is wrong with that organization? why in the world would they put myers out there to discuss stuff when emotions are running so high? unless they wanted sympathy. take a breather - give an update via a release and then have the presser tomorrow morning. having it right now is just so dumb.



They know they fked up, attempt to save face before they get dragged in mud. Doctors make the final call, it doesn't matter how much Durant wants to play, if he is not healthy they have the power to say no and nobody did anything about it. And for what? There is no way Toronto was going to lose 3 games in a row to them..that 1 win is going to come somehow.. They just cost the man a legacy
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#323 » by Ugly Duckling » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:57 am

Dang that's rough. I always felt KD shouldn't have joined the Warriors, but never questioned his character or game. It's unfortunate that it took this to vindicate him in my eyes, but I can now see how integral he is to the Warriors and how great of a player he is. I didn't really think he planned to come back game 5 to prove all of his naysayers wrong, but it was a thought in many minds. All we can do now is hope the MRI comes back clean (or at least mild) and KD returns to full form next yr
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#324 » by sacking123 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:57 am

I think there needs to be an investigation, at minimum internally from the Warriors, to see what in the hell went on with the entire fiasco.
This isn't just about KD, it's also about Kevon Looney. He was told, along with the rest of us, that he is right to play as the injury couldn't get any worse. Then he comes out of the game and it's announced by the Warriors he has re-injured himself. So they said he can play injured as it won't get any worse, then say he has re-injured himself and is ruled out. So the injury did get worse, or he shouldn't have been out there in the first place.
The same can be said with KD, he shouldn't have been out there.
Durant was clearly not right (I can't believe I've seen some people say he looked 100%) even though he shot the ball well. Seeing him in the first I was hoping it was more about him getting confidence back in his leg, but it just wasn't right.
There were even reports the workout went terribly and I'm damn sure the doctors, both from the Warriors and outside sources (seeing as Myers said there were a number of doctors that diagnosed him), the front office, coaching staff. All of them would have been there, or should have been, for that workout.
That is when they should have just shut it down and said there isn't a chance you're right to play. Don't forget, when you make that decision for KD to come back and play, it's for 3 NBA finals games, not 1 or anything like that because you only bring him back if you're going to win the championship and they needed 3 wins.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#325 » by NYKHardKnock » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:57 am

Dr_Heat wrote:Feel bad for the people of NYC that wanted to see Kevin this year in a Knicks jersey
We’ve lost a lot the last 20 years, and this is the biggest loss yet, and the dude wasn’t even a Knick. Honestly feel so somber. Excitement for FA dropped significantly.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#326 » by TheGOATWill » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:57 am

Any questions about Kawhi seeking a second opinion last year?
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Re: Should golden state medical staff be culpable for malpractice? 

Post#327 » by XtremeDunkz » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:58 am

God forbid a terrible accident happens without people rushing to blame, fire, sue whoever they can.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#328 » by bootsythornton » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:58 am

INSANE that he played
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#329 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:59 am

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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:You realize torn Achilles is the worst prognosis in the NBA pretty much right? FAR worse than a compound break or ACL.

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Is the achilles still a death sentence? Wes Matthews came back the next season and started 78 games, granted he wasn't very good but he was never an all-star. Is it too much to expect KD to come back by December and be a borderline all-star player? He obviously will be robbed of top 5 talent, but I think post injury KD would be pretty good still.

It ruined Elton Brand. Can you say that Rudy Gay has ever returned to the 20-something ppg scorer he was before the injury?

Elton injured his 12 years ago.

Rudy Gay also had a solid year. His per 36 were comparable (if not better) than his last Sacramento season. Slightly less points but more efficient.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#330 » by Free Rider » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:59 am

I honestly don’t know if I’ve ever seen this kind of gross incompetence from a medical team and coaching staff. We heard reports from several people who observed Durant this week and believed that he wasn’t ready and likely wasn’t going to come back. This wasn’t something that couldn’t have been anticipated. He only had one practice and no where near enough time to evaluate any long term effects from that practice. Instead of doing what any smart organization would have done and shut him down for the season, they rush him back into a must win Finals game. I think Bob Myers knows that Durant likely tore his Achilles and the Warriors may have just permanently ruined his career. This is such a colossal screw up by everyone involved and may ultimately lead to the NBA making major changes on how players are brought back from injuries. Something along the lines of a concussion protocol to ensure the players are protected from long term injuries.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#331 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:59 am

Has anyone checked on the Knicks forum? Should we send someone over there to make sure they're alright?
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#332 » by Gus McCrae » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:59 am

Someone will talk at some point. Durant will eventually say something (If Stephen A ever gets ahold of him), or the GS medical staff will say something after getting thrown under the bus. Maybe KD was told he had no chance of furthering the injury ? Or maybe he was told there was a good chance of worsening his Achilles (which everyone knew was the problem) but he decided to play through it? Too soon to say anything with certainty. Doesn’t look good for GS management right now though.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#333 » by Dr_Heat » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:59 am

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Dr_Heat wrote:Feel bad for the people of NYC that wanted to see Kevin this year in a Knicks jersey
We’ve lost a lot the last 20 years, and this is the biggest loss yet, and the dude wasn’t even a Knick. Honestly feel so somber. Excitement for FA dropped significantly.


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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#334 » by mtcan » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:00 am

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Nah, lets be honest, KD is still getting the max from some team if he wants the money.

Nope. I doubt it. Guys in their 30s lose a lot after an achilles injury. If you are the Knicks and want to take that risk...you might not get what you are paying for even after waiting an entire year for him to come back.


Clippers and Knicks will max him no matter what imo.

And that screams of desperation on the part of those organizations.

Boogie is a shell of his former self.

Elton Brand was perennial 20 and 10...and was nothing after that.

Rudy Gay was 18-20 ppg with really good athleticism...went from 18-20 ppg in 33 minutes pre-injury to 13 ppg in 26 minutes 2 years post-injury.

Wes Matthews...was never the same guy in Dallas as he was pre-injury in Portland. And yes...Dallas paid him not knowing what they would get after the injury
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Re: Should golden state medical staff be culpable for malpractice? 

Post#335 » by radeonboy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:00 am

GS organization just stole Durant's prime years.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#336 » by The KnicksFix » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:01 am

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The KnicksFix wrote:this is so wild, a bone headed call to force a player back, costed this man millions, and his legacy. myers wanna cry now? when at the championship last year he told kd that he just crewed up, steph was here all along? kick rocks myers

What?? I feel like I’m in the twilight zone. Wtf are you people talking about? :lol:


what do you mean? u know it was myers call to force that dood back, probably didnt let on the severity of that injury to him, the medical staff screwed him bro, wtf are u talking about?

and if you need a refresher about the joke he said to kd...

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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#337 » by Winsome Gerbil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:01 am

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poomaster wrote:This is terrible, and this is all on the negligence of the Warriors medical and coaching staff. You probably just cut down a HOFer at the peak of his prime, he may not ever be able to perform on the same level again. This is probably the worst display of sheer negligence by a front office I've seen in a long time.


You're not lying. Myers' crocodile tears ain't working on me. They owe KD a max extension + a settlement deep into the 8-figures on top of it.


Thing is, a player of KD's caliber, power agent etc. I would assume almost certainly has private doctors of his own to consult for second opinions.

Mentioned this is another thread -- Boogie had been having achilles soreness for a long time before his popped. Is it possible you can't see the microtears in an MRI? How could you mistake it so far to call it a calf?
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#338 » by TheGOATRises007 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:01 am

DusterBuster wrote:Has anyone checked on the Knicks forum? Should we send someone over there to make sure they're alright?


All Knicks forums I've seen over the internet are crushed.

Feel somewhat bad for them :lol:
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#339 » by Guest202 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:01 am

simonbampfield wrote:I think there needs to be an investigation, at minimum internally from the Warriors, to see what in the hell went on with the entire fiasco.
This isn't just about KD, it's also about Kevon Looney. He was told, along with the rest of us, that he is right to play as the injury couldn't get any worse. Then he comes out of the game and it's announced by the Warriors he has re-injured himself. So they said he can play injured as it won't get any worse, then say he has re-injured himself and is ruled out. So the injury did get worse, or he shouldn't have been out there in the first place.
The same can be said with KD, he shouldn't have been out there.
Durant was clearly not right (I can't believe I've seen some people say he looked 100%) even though he shot the ball well. Seeing him in the first I was hoping it was more about him getting confidence back in his leg, but it just wasn't right.
There were even reports the workout went terribly and I'm damn sure the doctors, both from the Warriors and outside sources (seeing as Myers said there were a number of doctors that diagnosed him), the front office, coaching staff. All of them would have been there, or should have been, for that workout.
That is when they should have just shut it down and said there isn't a chance you're right to play. Don't forget, when you make that decision for KD to come back and play, it's for 3 NBA finals games, not 1 or anything like that because you only bring him back if you're going to win the championship and they needed 3 wins.


Not to mention GSW fueled the intense come back chatter by clearly significantly DOWNPLAYING the injury the entire time referring to it as a calf injury, saying he could come back any time, blah blah. Super super shady.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#340 » by Saciid11 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:02 am

Warriors risked Durants health for one meaningless win ... This just shows how much Warriors care about Durant.

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