Should Fred Van Vleet be an all-star?

[Alfred]

What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Most posters feel the same way about you in this thread.

God damn

[God Squad]

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Most posters feel the same way about you in this thread.

God damn

[CoachD]

LMAO people are still debating this???

LOL

[Triple7]

Yes. I have him in one of my fantasy league, and he’s killin it. Big yes!

[Green Backpack]

His past 2 weeks have clearly cemented his spot on the team. He'll be a reserve no doubt.

[gpoon]

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Ok, what about Tatum "screams" star?

Everything. He was a 5 star recruit, has a bigger shoe deal, is on more commercials, people on TV actually talk about him. Fred is like a cute contrarian hipster pick.

The Raptors mascot Has a bigger shoe deal, more commercials, is on TV much than Tatum, and he looks exactly like Fred.

Just saying and BTW FVVs shoe deal is bigger than Tatum's

[Bhut Jolokia]

East All-Stars -
G - DeRozan, LaVine, Trae, Harden, Ball, VanVleet
FC - Giannis, Durant, Embiid, Butler, Middleton, Siakam

Bubble -
G - Herro, Garland, Beal, Brown, Holiday, Lowry
FC - Tatum, Allen, Bridges, Sabonis

# Per Team -
Bulls - 2, Nets - 2, Bucks - 2, Raptors - 2, Heat - 1, Sixers - 1, Hornets - 1, Hawks - 1

[CoachD]

East All-Stars -
G - DeRozan, LaVine, Trae, Harden, Ball, VanVleet
FC - Giannis, Durant, Embiid, Butler, Middleton, Siakam

Bubble -
G - Herro, Garland, Beal, Brown, Holiday, Lowry
FC - Tatum, Allen, Bridges, Sabonis

# Per Team -
Bulls - 2, Nets - 2, Bucks - 2, Raptors - 2, Heat - 1, Sixers - 1, Hornets - 1, Hawks - 1

As fair as I think that is ... the Cavs will have at least 1 of their 2 on the bubble all stars at the game they are hosting.

[Johnny Bball]

If you went purely by PPG, the most casual standard of all, FVV is 19th in the league. 10th in the east. that's without his defense, steals, deflections, passing, incredible assist to turnover rate, dominating games..... and analytically he's just so much better.

How does he not make it it the question?

I see no argument for Garland over FVV.

[Quattro]

Except both guys actually have star power. Fred has that scrappy undersized Rudy quality that people love to root for but no one actually takes seriously.

What is your definition of star power? Under achieving? Empty stats? Never improving (Tatum)? Not a team player? Only going far in the playoff when you have two other stars?

Everything about Tatum screams star. Put him in a room with a group of celebs and everyone knows Tatum. Put Fred in there and they are asking who let him in.

Only one of those guys played a key role on a championship team. Tatum is real good at leading his team to .500 records though. I’ll give him that. Can’t blame Kyrie any more. Who’s fault is it now?

[maxpower8888]

He should definitely get in this year.

[cpower]

yes, amazing year for FVV

[Woodsanity]

Much more deserving than the two overrated guys on the Celtics.

[Bruin]

Fred should be in 100% and Pascal should be getting serious consideration too

Pascal is having a better season than 2019-20 where he was an All Star Starter and All NBA 2nd team. If Raptors continue working their way up the standings and get into a top 5 seed (currently just 1.5 GB), we could see both Fred and Pascal get in as reserves

[Bruin]

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[realball]

East All-Stars -
G - DeRozan, LaVine, Trae, Harden, Ball, VanVleet
FC - Giannis, Durant, Embiid, Butler, Middleton, Siakam

Bubble -
G - Herro, Garland, Beal, Brown, Holiday, Lowry
FC - Tatum, Allen, Bridges, Sabonis

# Per Team -
Bulls - 2, Nets - 2, Bucks - 2, Raptors - 2, Heat - 1, Sixers - 1, Hornets - 1, Hawks - 1

Siakam is back in All-Star form, but he's not making the team over Allen.

It sucks that Middleton will make the team based on position and reputation, Jrue deserves it more than him this year.

[Duffman100]

East All-Stars -
G - DeRozan, LaVine, Trae, Harden, Ball, VanVleet
FC - Giannis, Durant, Embiid, Butler, Middleton, Siakam

Bubble -
G - Herro, Garland, Beal, Brown, Holiday, Lowry
FC - Tatum, Allen, Bridges, Sabonis

# Per Team -
Bulls - 2, Nets - 2, Bucks - 2, Raptors - 2, Heat - 1, Sixers - 1, Hornets - 1, Hawks - 1

Siakam is back in All-Star form, but he's not making the team over Allen.

It sucks that Middleton will make the team based on position and reputation, Jrue deserves it more than him this year.

I'd open a "Is Pascal back?" thread? But I know we'd get roasted for having two Raptor related threads on the first page.

[realball]

East All-Stars -
G - DeRozan, LaVine, Trae, Harden, Ball, VanVleet
FC - Giannis, Durant, Embiid, Butler, Middleton, Siakam

Bubble -
G - Herro, Garland, Beal, Brown, Holiday, Lowry
FC - Tatum, Allen, Bridges, Sabonis

# Per Team -
Bulls - 2, Nets - 2, Bucks - 2, Raptors - 2, Heat - 1, Sixers - 1, Hornets - 1, Hawks - 1

Siakam is back in All-Star form, but he's not making the team over Allen.

It sucks that Middleton will make the team based on position and reputation, Jrue deserves it more than him this year.

I'd open a "Is Pascal back?" thread? But I know we'd get roasted for having two Raptor related threads on the first page.

Every thread on the general board becomes about us anyways

[ShootersShoot]

Yes, get this man to the ASG he deserves it!

[CoachD]

East All-Stars -
G - DeRozan, LaVine, Trae, Harden, Ball, VanVleet
FC - Giannis, Durant, Embiid, Butler, Middleton, Siakam

Bubble -
G - Herro, Garland, Beal, Brown, Holiday, Lowry
FC - Tatum, Allen, Bridges, Sabonis

# Per Team -
Bulls - 2, Nets - 2, Bucks - 2, Raptors - 2, Heat - 1, Sixers - 1, Hornets - 1, Hawks - 1

Siakam is back in All-Star form, but he's not making the team over Allen.

It sucks that Middleton will make the team based on position and reputation, Jrue deserves it more than him this year.

Pascal is having a better season than Middleton. Middleton shouldn't be an automatic