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Optimus_Steel wrote:Sabonis is a really good player and he is only 25. Feels like people are overacting on this one.
I doubt Holmes will even be here much longer. The kings aren’t done making moves but this is good for the Pacers toodavidfr94 wrote:Such a good trade for the pacers.
Sabonis is a good player but it is so hard to build a team around his strenghts that i am not sure he is worth it.
Bad rim protector, Bad shooter, Bad perimeter defender. Hope he will have success with the Kings though (but think he will struggle playing with fox and Holmes).
We were also able to clear some salary with lamb and holiday.
We really needed a point guard and we get one with upside and on a rookie contract and people argue if it is a Bad trade for us ??
Plus, he fits pretty well with Duarte.
It also frees up playing time for our promising rookie isiah Jackson.
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MrGoat wrote:ConSarnit wrote:So the Kings look at Indy and see the mediocre fit between Sabonis and Turner and think: how can we make this worse?
Sabonis and Holmes seem like a terrible fit. Holmes is worse shooter and worse defender than Turner. Is there a follow up trade in the works to move Holmes because this seems stupid.
This is the Kings we're talking about. After the Mavs imploded after trading for Rondo the Kings tried to sign both Monta Ellis and Rajon Rondo because they saw how they played in Dallas together and thought "hey let's get some of that". It didn't happen because Monta took an ill advised deal with the Pacers for less money once he saw the Kings make an offer to him
Optimus_Steel wrote:Sabonis is a really good player and he is only 25. Feels like people are overacting on this one.
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
CoP wrote:Kings should have tried to get Sabonis without giving up Halliburton, but people here are losing their minds over Halliburton. Sabonis is not that old. He's a 25-year-old, two-time All-Star and - get ready for this - the best player in this trade. Building around him and Fox is not some horrid strategy.
cgf wrote:Optimus_Steel wrote:Sabonis is a really good player and he is only 25. Feels like people are overacting on this one.
Eh, he's neither on his rookie-scale deal nor a superstar, and I've been on here for long enough to know that that means he's a bad contract & so has zero value...
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Magic#1 wrote:We have won two playoff games in two years. If we decide to keep this team for the next two years, maybe it will feel like we won a series.
ReKon wrote:AdamTH21 wrote:ReKon wrote:I am a bit confused by the amount of people who believe the Pacers won this trade. I am not saying Haliburton isn't a good and it might just be me but it feels like Sabonis is undervalued and Haliburton's potential is overvalued in this particular case.
I like this for the Kings. Sabonis is a great all-around player and the fact that the Kings keep their draft capital intact is great (although they tend to screw up with their picks)
I don't think it's so much the talent equality that people are giving this deal **** for, it's because it's once again an example of the Kings making a trade which implies they're ready to be competitive now which couldn't really be further from the truth.
That aside they got the best player in the deal and reportedly are not done dealing. And again by reading the comments in the thread it looks more as if people believe Haliburton has Lebron-esque potential (I like him but I don't see him as being that special as people here seem to believe) or something and that Sacramento messed up by getting a 25yo 2 time all-star.
I am going to wait to see what their next move is before making a conclusion but I like this for the Kings either way. If anything the Pacers got Haliburton who is a great player for their rebuild and the Kings got the best player in the deal so both win in my eyes at least
*Sakkreth wrote:davidfr94 wrote:JXL wrote:
They better be moving Harrison Barnes and MBIII as well then, cause this truly made 0 sense to me.
Sabonis at center is a defensive disaster but youre right that center is probably his best position.
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Sabonis has the best defensive rating on the pacers of those who played any significant minutes tho. U might look into players that chase blocks and steals and think "wow he's a good defender", but good positional defense and reading the game gets underlooked more often than not.
Tomjas wrote:
Archx wrote:To be fair, this is the same team that drafted Bagley because he could jump fast twice in a row. So....
Tor_Raps wrote:Optimus_Steel wrote:Sabonis is a really good player and he is only 25. Feels like people are overacting on this one.
Ya I don't get the backlash for the Kings. It's not like they traded Halliburton for some old guy in an attempt to win now. Still don't know how to feel here.
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Slim Charlez wrote:I don't hate it. Haliburton is a nice player and ideally you'd want to get rid of Fox instead, but I think people are underrating Sabonis here. He's young with room to grow, is an All Star who Sacramento would have no chance of getting without giving up something, I'm still not convinced that this is who Fox is, I can see him bouncing back under the right conditions. IDK I think people would have a different reaction if it was another franchise trading Haliburton for Sabonis.
sisibilio wrote:Sakkreth wrote:davidfr94 wrote:
Sabonis at center is a defensive disaster but youre right that center is probably his best position.
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Sabonis has the best defensive rating on the pacers of those who played any significant minutes tho. U might look into players that chase blocks and steals and think "wow he's a good defender", but good positional defense and reading the game gets underlooked more often than not.
People talking like he's Enes World Freedom or something.
John Murdoch wrote:Pretty much kills Fox to NY ...come on down Randle
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
