Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora, Kira Lewis and 3 first round picks

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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#322 » by EmpireFalls » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:57 pm

The picks are NOT a big deal I repeat NOT a big deal.

When you get a lottery pick and end up with Jarace Walker I can understand why you’d devalue picks

Plus the rest of the core is young so better to add now while you still can. Bruce Brown was another example of an overpay bc they had the cap space now, they won’t have it in 3 years.

Good job by Indy. Win win. I wish we could get some talent like this for LaMelo to play with, FFS…
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#323 » by Romeiro Celtic » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:59 pm

EmpireFalls wrote:The picks are NOT a big deal I repeat NOT a big deal.

When you get a lottery pick and end up with Jarace Walker I can understand why you’d devalue picks

Plus the rest of the core is young so better to add now while you still can. Bruce Brown was another example of an overpay bc they had the cap space now, they won’t have it in 3 years.

Good job by Indy. Win win. I wish we could get some talent like this for LaMelo to play with, FFS…


Seriously, who's that Jarace Walker? How bad is he for me to not even having ever heard his name?
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#324 » by Zeno » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:59 pm

A very good trade for Pacers. Alot depends on where Bruce Brown ends up as far as the Raptors are concerned.
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Post#325 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:59 pm

Pacers panicked lol

Still not a contender imo
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#326 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:00 pm

The Pacers robbed them considering how bad the picks will be. Late first-round picks have very little value.
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Post#327 » by KHRICH » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:00 pm

Pacers got the better of this trade 3 late frp for an all nba type player who your unlikely to get a player even on the level of pascal. Couldn't trade for a good young player from any of these teams? Masai and Bobby getting by at this point by reputation because since that ring they have done nothing now we give our frp this year to spurs for what exactly?
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#328 » by BigDan245 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:00 pm

I'm most interested in what NO is doing...Dumping Lewis and a 2nd round pick for nothing...What do they have cooking?
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Post#329 » by azcatz11 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:00 pm

They will have to max mathurin also so this gives them a 2 year window. Not hating at all but they don’t pay luxury tax….I commend them for trying however I don’t see this as moving the needle much in the east. Maybe next year they are contenders but I worry about siakam taking a massive decline
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Post#330 » by IMF » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:02 pm

Marvin Martian wrote:What's the point of this deal? IND is not a contender with this trade and Siakam does not fit their timeline or a roster need (defense).

Everyone will be clowning IND for this deal for the next few years


Cool cool glad you’re on record might bump this thread later. :lol:
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#331 » by codydaze » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:02 pm

BigDan245 wrote:I'm most interested in what NO is doing...Dumping Lewis and a 2nd round pick for nothing...What do they have cooking?


I think their motivation was ducking the luxury tax. Could have something else planned but I think that was their main motivation.
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Post#332 » by IMF » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:05 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Pacers panicked lol

Still not a contender imo


What did we give up exactly?

You think the 25th pick in 2026 is making or breaking our contender status? Pacers were already 4th in the East before Hali’s injury. They had already beaten every top East team including Boston twice and Milwaukee 4 times.
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Post#333 » by duppyy » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:05 pm

BigDan245 wrote:I'm most interested in what NO is doing...Dumping Lewis and a 2nd round pick for nothing...What do they have cooking?


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Post#334 » by Pointgod » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:06 pm

Pacers absolutely worked Masai here. Great deal for them, not a contender but low risk high reward.
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Post#335 » by MrGoat » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:07 pm

azcatz11 wrote:They will have to max mathurin also so this gives them a 2 year window. Not hating at all but they don’t pay luxury tax….I commend them for trying however I don’t see this as moving the needle much in the east. Maybe next year they are contenders but I worry about siakam taking a massive decline


Siakam is 29. What makes you think he's about to suddenly decline? If he was 34 I'd get that, but he isn't
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#336 » by benson13 » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:07 pm

I just looked up the outstanding trades for the draft. Is Indy trading one of their incoming picks in addition to their own?
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Post#337 » by Courtside » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:08 pm

dirkdiggler4177 wrote:The Pacers robbed them considering how bad the picks will be. Late first-round picks have very little value.

You mean like Pascal Siakam, who was picked at 27?
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Post#338 » by vxmike » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:08 pm

PushDaRock wrote:Crazy we didn't even manage to get one of Toppin or Smith. That front court is so crowded.


They can always make another trade. The Bulls desperately need a PF and have more guards than they do playing time...
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#339 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:09 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:Pacers panicked lol

Still not a contender imo


What did we give up exactly?

You think the 25th pick in 2026 is making or breaking our contender status? Pacers were already 4th in the East before Hali’s injury. They had already beaten every top East team including Boston twice and Milwaukee 4 times.
you gave up 3 1st rd picks which are the most valuable assets in today's league.

You traded them for a borderline all-star talent. Sure you guys improved, but I still think Mil/Bos/Philly/NY are all better.

Also Siakam is a win now player in the middle of his prime. Hali needs a younger running mate.
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Re: Woj: Raptors trade Pascal Siakam to Pacers for Bruce Brown, Jordan Nwora and 3 first round picks 

Post#340 » by 7r5ur » Wed Jan 17, 2024 8:09 pm

phanman wrote:HOW DID WE NOT GET A BIG!?!?!? OR A MATHURIN/NEMHARD?!

Because Siakam is expiring.

You would have gotten that last year if Masai didn't hold his cards too long.

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