Jontay Porter banned from the NBA

[ghillphx]

I wonder if michael porter jr is guilty for betting on nuggets games. Could run in the family but like someone else posted earlier, innocent until proven guilty and not guilty by association. Also Jontay is smart for betting the Raps to lose lol. You don’t need insider info for that to be a given…

Don’t **** on Michael Porter Jr. for no reason, that’s ****. He’s risen above a **** family situation and severe injuries to be a superstar and a champion. Disgusting post.

HAHAHA. MPJ is most definitely NOT a superstar. He's not even an all-star. Beyond that, your post is fine.

[Evenacus]

As expected, way too many issues to account for. Deserved.

[2LeTTeRS]

Sad that his career went this way. I thought he had a lot of talent back at Missouri. He seemed to have a lot of playmaking skills which were rare for such a young player but then tore up his knee in consecutive seasons. Anyone else remember all the talk about how the Porter's vegan diet seemed to cause all the siblings to have severe injury issues? To overcome all of that and finally get a shot in the NBA just to screw it all up is mind blowing.

And to touch on another topic I think we make the mistake in assuming people are rational actors when saying a star player would never take a similar risk. Unfortunately, evidence proves that people do dumb **** all the time - especially when they think they are the smartest person in the room and will never be caught.

[jk31]

Where's the Lifetime ban for beating your wife?

if anyone involved in the games influences outcomes of games and/or bets this threatens the complete integrity of the game. while beating onces wife of course is the action which should be despised much more, this really hs no influence on how fans perceive the games. on the other hand if fans cannot trust the league anymore in regards to if games are fixed or not, this threatens the whole construct of the NBA.

[Wargreymon]

I wonder if michael porter jr is guilty for betting on nuggets games. Could run in the family but like someone else posted earlier, innocent until proven guilty and not guilty by association. Also Jontay is smart for betting the Raps to lose lol. You don’t need insider info for that to be a given…

Don’t **** on Michael Porter Jr. for no reason, that’s ****. He’s risen above a **** family situation and severe injuries to be a superstar and a champion. Disgusting post.

Poster said "could run in the family", that's not how humans work.

Why say that then follow up with "innocent until proven guilty and not guilty by association". If the second part is genuine then the first part shouldn't have been said at all, which means the whole thing shouldn't have been said.

Just thinking out loud but i guess i shouldn’t have lol. Ah well it is what it is.

[baldur]

Does anyone know how exactly they found out Jontay was doing this?

It's probably so easy to catch when lots of money is being put for someone who plays for 5 mpg.

Suspicious activity can be easily detected by the bookies and they probably informed the authorities not because they care about the integrity of the game, because they don't wanna lose lots of money.

Johtay porter betting himself under is a surebet.

[baldur]

Sad that his career went this way. I thought he had a lot of talent back at Missouri. He seemed to have a lot of playmaking skills which were rare for such a young player but then tore up his knee in consecutive seasons. Anyone else remember all the talk about how the Porter's vegan diet seemed to cause all the siblings to have severe injury issues? To overcome all of that and finally get a shot in the NBA just to screw it all up is mind blowing.

And to touch on another topic I think we make the mistake in assuming people are rational actors when saying a star player would never take a similar risk. Unfortunately, evidence proves that people do dumb **** all the time - especially when they think they are the smartest person in the room and will never be caught.

Like somebody else said, he probably made more money by betting than on his actual basketball salaries. So he is good to go.

[knicksNOTslick]

Crazy how he got banned while Ohtani is still playing cause his translator was able to take the fall

Easier to make an example out of a scrub than a superstar/future Hall of Famer who brings in an entire country's fanbase and then some. It would be like if Yao Ming got caught for something ban worthy and the NBA just sweep it under the rug (or Jordan?)

But the true moral of the story is that if you're going to gamble, make sure you have a real friend who will die on the sword for you. Seems like Porter doesn't have a real one or he's just dumb enough to leave a trail.

[UglyBugBall]

So if you commit grand larceny and steal something from your work place, your employer shouldn't fire you?

Read my previous post. You should only be fired if it directly affects your job. I.e beating your wife and working a women's shelter.

So you agree that Porter should be fired in this instance? Since what he did directly affected his job.

For sure. My disagreement was with the guy asking why the wife beater isn't fired.

[UglyBugBall]

So if you commit grand larceny and steal something from your work place, your employer shouldn't fire you?

Read my previous post. You should only be fired if it directly affects your job. I.e beating your wife and working a women's shelter.

That’s not how the world works. When you join a company, you represent the company. Companies can be sued base on employees actions and their employee image affects their reputation. Most criminals don’t change, they just spent many years in jail figuring out what went wrong and repeat them again.

If you are worried about criminals trying to get a job. Many small companies don’t do background check.

You do not represent a company by joining them.

What if I cheated on my wife, do I get fired? Does the company want to be represented by a cheater?

What if I'm obese and work in accounting of a high fashion company. I represent the company right? It doesn't look good, they arent trying to attract obese people. Fired.

I suffer from anxiety and work at a pharmaceutical company that sells anti anxiety pills. Doesn't look good for me to represent them when I'm working in the lab. Gone.

I'm gay in a small southern town working as a waitress. I should be fired, it night not be the representation that restaurant wants.

You do not represent the company. You do work for them in exchange for pay. We already have people that represent the company. They're called PR, or public representatives for a reason. Bob in accounting doesn't represent the company

[___Rand___]

[styLesdavis]

Porter might be the only nba player who bet on himself and won.

#schroder #noel

[kacey ring]

Well, atleast he can bet on all the NBA games and props his heart desires now. Maybe that’s all he really wanted.

[RB34]

The NBA drawing the line at sports betting and not strangulation is **** wild.

[disoblige]

Read my previous post. You should only be fired if it directly affects your job. I.e beating your wife and working a women's shelter.

That’s not how the world works. When you join a company, you represent the company. Companies can be sued base on employees actions and their employee image affects their reputation. Most criminals don’t change, they just spent many years in jail figuring out what went wrong and repeat them again.

If you are worried about criminals trying to get a job. Many small companies don’t do background check.

You do not represent a company by joining them.

What if I cheated on my wife, do I get fired? Does the company want to be represented by a cheater?

What if I'm obese and work in accounting of a high fashion company. I represent the company right? It doesn't look good, they arent trying to attract obese people. Fired.

I suffer from anxiety and work at a pharmaceutical company that sells anti anxiety pills. Doesn't look good for me to represent them when I'm working in the lab. Gone.

I'm gay in a small southern town working as a waitress. I should be fired, it night not be the representation that restaurant wants.

You do not represent the company. You do work for them in exchange for pay. We already have people that represent the company. They're called PR, or public representatives for a reason. Bob in accounting doesn't represent the company

You are naive then if you think accountant, waitress and pharmaceutical dont interact with anyone. People inside your organization are internal-customers. Even without interacting with anyone, their work represents the company. A janitor leaving a spill in the floor, represents the company.

To a significant extent, employees do represent the company they work for. When employees interact with customers, partners, or the public, they often embody the values, culture, and professionalism of their organization. How they conduct themselves, communicate, and perform their duties reflects upon the company's reputation and brand image. Therefore, it's essential for employees to align with the company's mission, values, and standards, as they are seen as ambassadors of the organization in various contexts.

[UglyBugBall]

That’s not how the world works. When you join a company, you represent the company. Companies can be sued base on employees actions and their employee image affects their reputation. Most criminals don’t change, they just spent many years in jail figuring out what went wrong and repeat them again.

If you are worried about criminals trying to get a job. Many small companies don’t do background check.

You do not represent a company by joining them.

What if I cheated on my wife, do I get fired? Does the company want to be represented by a cheater?

What if I'm obese and work in accounting of a high fashion company. I represent the company right? It doesn't look good, they arent trying to attract obese people. Fired.

I suffer from anxiety and work at a pharmaceutical company that sells anti anxiety pills. Doesn't look good for me to represent them when I'm working in the lab. Gone.

I'm gay in a small southern town working as a waitress. I should be fired, it night not be the representation that restaurant wants.

You do not represent the company. You do work for them in exchange for pay. We already have people that represent the company. They're called PR, or public representatives for a reason. Bob in accounting doesn't represent the company

You are naive then.

To a significant extent, employees do represent the company they work for. When employees interact with customers, partners, or the public, they often embody the values, culture, and professionalism of their organization. How they conduct themselves, communicate, and perform their duties reflects upon the company's reputation and brand image. Therefore, it's essential for employees to align with the company's mission, values, and standards, as they are seen as ambassadors of the organization in various contexts.

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Alright, let's ban cheaters, gays, people with obesity, etc. You refuted the logic incredibly well, I agree now.

[Nuntius]

Where's the Lifetime ban for beating your wife?

if anyone involved in the games influences outcomes of games and/or bets this threatens the complete integrity of the game. while beating onces wife of course is the action which should be despised much more, this really hs no influence on how fans perceive the games. on the other hand if fans cannot trust the league anymore in regards to if games are fixed or not, this threatens the whole construct of the NBA.

This. The NBA is a corporation and a corporation will always put their bottomline above everything else. Always have and will. That's their goal after all.

A player betting on NBA games destroys the integrity of the league. It massively hurts their bottomline. Therefore, a ban is expected.

A domestic abuse or rape allegation, on the other hand, doesn't really destroy the integrity of the league. It's not seen as the league's fault, it's seen as the player's fault. The league may face some criticism that has to do with how they handle the situation but fans won't start believing that the league is rigged because of it. The player could potentially be singled out as a bad apple but even that isn't necessarily a given.

After all, what I pointed in the previous thread still stands:

Every time that a domestic abuse or rape allegation against an NBA player crops up in RealGM, there will always be people willing to defend him. Always. "We cannot take the victim at their word", "maybe the player is being set up", "maybe the victim said something to the player to set them off" et cetera. You will always hear that kind of crap from certain posters.

Did anyone defend Jontay Porter when the news broke? Nope. I didn't see anyone claiming that "maybe he didn't do it" or "maybe he was set up".

That has to do with how our society treats those crimes differently. Domestic abuse, sexual abuse and rape aren't treated like other crimes. The victims of those crimes aren't always believed and they aren't always in a position to testify due to the trauma either. Plus, our society often blames those victims and insinuates that it was their fault they were attacked. There is a lot of stigma attached to it which makes it a much harder crime to prove and prosecute, in general.

This is not the case with financial crimes, on the other hand. Our society never asks victims of financial crimes if they wanted to be robbed after all. Plus, there is always some kind of paper trail that can help you prove what happened. The two are simply not the same.

[disoblige]

Alright, let's ban cheaters, gays, people with obesity, etc. You refuted the logic incredibly well, I agree now.

Your main logic is "You do not represent a company by joining them." Your supporting arguement sucks and now changing the subject.

Bob in accounting doesn't represent the company

ChatGPT
While it might seem like Bob in accounting has a limited impact on the company's overall image compared to, say, the CEO or frontline customer service representatives, he still represents the company in various ways.

For instance, if Bob interacts with vendors, auditors, or even colleagues from other departments, his behavior, professionalism, and communication style reflect on the company. Additionally, if Bob's work quality is subpar or he behaves unprofessionally within the company, it can have indirect repercussions on the organization's reputation and internal culture.

In essence, every employee, regardless of their role, contributes to the collective representation of the company, albeit to different degrees depending on their level of interaction and visibility within and outside the organization.

[KembaWalker]

If you guys actually knew how many people you interact with in your jobs that have felonies, how many of your DoorDash and Amazon drivers pulling up on your house every day with felonies, how many Uber drivers you’re trusting with your drunk ass that have felonies you’d be too scared to go outside

[UglyBugBall]

Alright, let's ban cheaters, gays, people with obesity, etc. You refuted the logic incredibly well, I agree now.

Your main logic is "You do not represent a company by joining them." Your supporting arguement sucks and now changing the subject.

Bob in accounting doesn't represent the company

ChatGPT
While it might seem like Bob in accounting has a limited impact on the company's overall image compared to, say, the CEO or frontline customer service representatives, he still represents the company in various ways.

For instance, if Bob interacts with vendors, auditors, or even colleagues from other departments, his behavior, professionalism, and communication style reflect on the company. Additionally, if Bob's work quality is subpar or he behaves unprofessionally within the company, it can have indirect repercussions on the organization's reputation and internal culture.

In essence, every employee, regardless of their role, contributes to the collective representation of the company, albeit to different degrees depending on their level of interaction and visibility within and outside the organization.

You gave me a random quote that doesn't prove anything. I stayed fully on subject. If employees represent the company and you believe that companies should be able to fire anyone they feel doesn't represent their brand, then you also believe they should be able to fire gays, minorities, people with disabilities, etc if they don't fit the companies preferred representation. Until you can square that conclusion of what you are advocating for, you are arguing in favor of legalized bigotry.