UglyBugBall wrote:Ice Man wrote:Yep, it's almost always about Murray. One playoff game in 10, at most, Jokic will not be good enough -- as with Game 2 this series. The rest of the time, he's the best player on the court and his team will probably win, if Murray shows.
If Murray doesn't show ... shrug. Shaq couldn't win without Penny, Kobe, or DWade, and nobody expected him to do so.
At least you admit Jokic can't win without help. Nobody said he's not a good player, but unlike other ATG's he needs help to win at the highest levels.
He’s literally had the least help for a title run in NBA history. No all star teammates, no all-NBA teammates, no all-D teammates.
LeBron needed HOFers, Jordan needed HOFers, Shaq needed HOFers, Kobe needed HOFers.
The only guys to win a title without help: 03 Duncan, 94 Hakeem, 11 Dirk, 23 Jokic.
Your takes are irrational and make me think you’re eyeatoma's alt account.