Threezus wrote:Scott Hall wrote:Threezus wrote:
Agreed on the spurs i was mostly talking about in our conferance we share but i did say in the league instead. We all know about the Spurs but i mispoke so i'll take that L. Now with that said ofcourse we were a treadmill team as was the raptors as no one believed they would or could beat a lebron led team either. Before last year and Leonard since the raptors beginning yall weres ame as us either not in the playoffs or 1st / 2nd round exits all but 1 year as well just like us with coach bud. I can allow a lakers, bulls, celtics fan etc... to talk about how a winning team with a good legacy is supposed to play ball. But gtfoh with the raptors and that below .500 all time record treadmill crap as well. If yall were legit eastern conferance finals or nba finals teams every year i might give it some leeway but yall have only done that twice in the raptors entire existence in 25 years.
And what are the Atlanta Hawks known for other then being around a zillion years relocating a bunch of times
and never winning a championship? Hell when was the last time you even made the Finals? Maybe in St. Louis before
color TV was invented if that?
And the only thing of relevance they've done in Atlanta is have Dominique Wilkins in the 80's and early 90's that's
it. It's actually kind of surprising no one talks about the Hawks ineptitude with other franchises like the Browns,
Knicks, Leafs, Bills, Indians etc etc. I guess because they literally have next to no fans and historically one of
the deadest crowds in the league literally nobody even cares to bring them up.
The Hawks are like the Hornets both from the South both just kind of exist both with next to no fanfare.
See the difference here is i have already said stuff about the hawks ineptitude and know our history and im not claiming were great or anything else. Thats exactly why im not acting like or talking down to another team making fun of them saying they wouldn't know basketball because their a hawks fan or wouldn't know it because their a fan of any other team. I know where we came from and what we are. Raptor fans obviously do not and that 1 championship from leonard is giving alot of them a big head and think it's cool to put down another person because of the team they are a fan of. Where as the raptors have literally been the exact same as the hawks their entire existence outside of last year with leonard. So i don't understand why or how they think it's cool to act like a hawks fan wouldn't know good basketball when we have watched almost the same type as basketball as every raptor fan has over the last 25 years.
The Raptors have been around 25 years and it took them 24 years to win a tittle despite facing the prejudice
of some American Star players that left for nothing. Despite that their longest playoff drought has only been
4 or 5 years. A few more years at their current pace and they will be a lifetime .500 franchise which is actually
pretty good compared to a lot of other franchises and the fact they were an expansion team in the Jordan era
that transitioned into the Kobe/Shaq and Lebron era facing stereotypes and climbing an uphill battle. They're almost
at a point where they've been in the playoffs as much as they've been out of it lifetime. For them to be the Atlanta
Hawks who have been around since the 40's they'd have to suck or treadmill pre championship for another 50 years
or so.
Because people that slander Kyle Lowry that he's like some overrated scrub and go back to his playoff performances
from a few years ago sound like the biggest casual fans around. Like we're still doing this with Lowry??
Lowrys advanced stats and metrics speak for themselves something you would imagine casual fans don't know. The
guy has been to 6 straight All-Star games, won an Olympic medal, hasn't lost to a non Lebron team in the playoffs
for 5 years and had some of his best games of his careers in the biggest playoff games of his career like Game 6 of the
2019 NBA Finals and Game 7 vs. Miami in 2016.
He impacts the game in so many ways and does literally everything on the court yet he's not a pure scorer and can
be inconsistent at times so if he has a bad shooting night people think he "sucks" he's also not super fast, have amazing
dribbles or super athletic which most causal fans are attracted to. It's always been about style over substance going
back to the Iverson, Francis, Marbury, D-Rose days those are players who casuals like.
Also it's been a long standing tradition that NBA coaches don't reward players who stat stuff on losing teams. And people
are gonna act surprised that a coach isn't gonna play a guy who was voted in that they probably wouldn't have selected
anyways?
Before you say NBA fans voted him in then he should play the coaches aren't obligated to play who the fans want
and the players decided they wanted to play hard for Kobe...
Kyle Lowry busted his ass and played defense in an All-Star game which many say is one of the best of all-time. Also
everyone thought Team Giannis was gonna get smoked after the draft and they almost pulled the upset.
I get it you're an Atlanta fan you're being a homer because you wanted to see your guy Trae Young play more. What
goes around comes around we've been in your shoes when Rick Carlise benched Vince Carter in the 2004 ASG despite
being the leading vote getter go back and watch it even Craig Sager interviews Vince on the bench and asks him
why he isn't playing.
If you're a longtime NBA fan or hardcore fan who posts on sites like this you would think they would "get it" and not
come off with "casual" and "newbie" takes. This could be Lowrys last ASG at his age and T-Young has plenty of more.
Last year Kawhi Leonard arguably the best player in the freaking world didn't play in crunch time or half of the 4th
quarter of the ASG and we didn't even complain and people are going bonkers over a kid that leads the league in TO's?
