Re: WCF: P6 | (1) Houston Rockets vs (2) Golden State Warriors | GS WINS 4-3

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Who is making the Finals?

Golden State (I'm a Golden State Fan)
41
15%
Golden State (I'm a Houston Fan)
12
4%
Golden State (Neutral Fan)
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50%
Houston Rockets (I'm a Houston Fan)
9
3%
Houston Rockets (I'm a Golden State Fan)
5
2%
Houston Rockets (Neutral Fan)
67
25%
 
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Post#3341 » by Cactus Jack » Wed May 30, 2018 12:51 am

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Post#3342 » by KingCurry » Wed May 30, 2018 12:54 am



man TMac is not looking to stay in the good graces of Rockets fans
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Post#3343 » by xfactor » Wed May 30, 2018 1:01 am

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man TMac is not looking to stay in the good graces of Rockets fans


Interesting take. 'Foul hunting" :lol:
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Post#3344 » by CS707 » Wed May 30, 2018 1:13 am

Hard to take seriously coming from TMac.
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Post#3345 » by And1+2 » Wed May 30, 2018 1:21 am

gst8 wrote:Hard to take seriously coming from TMac.


One of the best offensive players ever in his prime. I think he knows what he is talking about...
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Post#3346 » by bakesale » Wed May 30, 2018 1:22 am

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bakesale wrote:For the series Harden shot 19/78 from 3s! WOW he tried so hard to like his guys Westbrook. LOL


well to be fair, KD in 2016 against the dubs shot 42% Fg and 28% from 3, Harden in this series was at 41% and 26% from 3. I think they just both need a looot of help to be efficient. KD has that now. It is what it is

24% not 26%
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Post#3347 » by bakesale » Wed May 30, 2018 1:30 am

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bakesale wrote:For the series Harden shot 19/78 from 3s! WOW he tried so hard to like his guys Westbrook. LOL

Oh wow curry and kd play so good when they are on the best team. Do u remember what curry did against the Spurs before Kerr? 3 bad games by his standard including 10-25 in the elimination game. It's tiring when u have to do everything. Point blank period. Kd didn't even have to do everything in okc and he still choked a 3-1 lead to gsw.

Shooting 10/25 is 40% for 1 game, is not as bad as Harden shooting 24% from 3s for a whole series.

I didn't like KD when he played in OKC.
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Post#3348 » by CS707 » Wed May 30, 2018 2:04 am

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gst8 wrote:Hard to take seriously coming from TMac.


One of the best offensive players ever in his prime. I think he knows what he is talking about...


He also wasn’t exactly MJ in the playoffs.
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Post#3349 » by bakesale » Wed May 30, 2018 2:07 am

The other thing to look at with Harden. Notice how he always had a stellar Game 1 in every series then faded as the series got longer and the pressure increased? Hmmm.

Even within games he often had a great start then in the second half, especially the 4th he'd fade more and more. Hmmm, very interesting.

Mental weakness? Physical fatigue? Does he need to work on his cardio fitness?
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Post#3350 » by Starboy » Wed May 30, 2018 3:34 am

[NBARefs] On Bell screen: "It's the correct call. The offensive player is rotated when the defensive player comes over the top and pulls him. The defensive player has the opportunity to stop or change direction but declined, and instead grabbed and pulled him in an attempt to draw an offensive foul"

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Post#3351 » by Samurai » Wed May 30, 2018 3:40 am

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I'm really surprised the ref didn't fall for the bait.

Harden is going to patent that back jump tactic. :lol:

It was pretty obvious that Bell did not commit the foul; not sure it was really necessary for the NBA refs to have to point out the obvious. It should have been a foul on Harden, but as others have pointed out throughout this thread, the refs missed a number of calls in this game.
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Post#3352 » by Rednation91 » Wed May 30, 2018 5:25 am

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Rednation91 wrote:
bakesale wrote:For the series Harden shot 19/78 from 3s! WOW he tried so hard to like his guys Westbrook. LOL

Oh wow curry and kd play so good when they are on the best team. Do u remember what curry did against the Spurs before Kerr? 3 bad games by his standard including 10-25 in the elimination game. It's tiring when u have to do everything. Point blank period. Kd didn't even have to do everything in okc and he still choked a 3-1 lead to gsw.

Shooting 10/25 is 40% for 1 game, is not as bad as Harden shooting 24% from 3s for a whole series.

I didn't like KD when he played in OKC.

40% is bad for curry. But he also had a g2 where he shot 7/20. And in g3 he was even worse at 5/17. Then in g5 he was 4/14. For that's series he shot 40% and for that season he shot 47%. 7% drop yet he got so much credit for taking sas to 6. And harden was 12-29 last night for 41.4% but he's still getting **** from people for last night and the series. Compared to Curry's fg% drop in 13-14, hardens "only" dropped from 44.9%(season) to 41.5%(this series). So Curry's fg% drop was double what hardens was this yr. But like I said it's expected when u have to score and create for everyone. Also currys usg% was 27% that series. Harden this series was over 35%
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Post#3353 » by bakesale » Wed May 30, 2018 5:47 am

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bakesale wrote:
Rednation91 wrote:Oh wow curry and kd play so good when they are on the best team. Do u remember what curry did against the Spurs before Kerr? 3 bad games by his standard including 10-25 in the elimination game. It's tiring when u have to do everything. Point blank period. Kd didn't even have to do everything in okc and he still choked a 3-1 lead to gsw.

Shooting 10/25 is 40% for 1 game, is not as bad as Harden shooting 24% from 3s for a whole series.

I didn't like KD when he played in OKC.

40% is bad for curry. But he also had a g2 where he shot 7/20. And in g3 he was even worse at 5/17. Then in g5 he was 4/14. For that's series he shot 40% and for that season he shot 47%. 7% drop yet he got so much credit for taking sas to 6. And harden was 12-29 last night for 41.4% but he's still getting **** from people for last night and the series. Compared to Curry's fg% drop in 13-14, hardens "only" dropped from 44.9%(season) to 41.5%(this series). So Curry's fg% drop was double what hardens was this yr. But like I said it's expected when u have to score and create for everyone. Also currys usg% was 27% that series. Harden this series was over 35%

Curry was 24 years old and his team was the 6th rank team. They weren't even expected to beat Denver that year let alone the much better Spurs.

Meanwhile Harden is 28 at his absolute peak of his prime, supposedly the MVP of the League and you are comparing him to Curry before he was even an all star. That's not a fair comparison.

At 24 in the playoffs Curry shot 44% from the field. When Harden was 24, in the playoffs he shot 37% from the field. Harden shot 46% from the field during that regular season. That's a massive drop off! Much worse than Curry.

Or how about my favourite Harden elimination performance was in 2015 when Harden scored 14 points on 2/11 from the field, that's 18% and 13 turnovers.

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Post#3354 » by Rednation91 » Thu May 31, 2018 4:40 am

bakesale wrote:
Rednation91 wrote:
bakesale wrote:Shooting 10/25 is 40% for 1 game, is not as bad as Harden shooting 24% from 3s for a whole series.

I didn't like KD when he played in OKC.

40% is bad for curry. But he also had a g2 where he shot 7/20. And in g3 he was even worse at 5/17. Then in g5 he was 4/14. For that's series he shot 40% and for that season he shot 47%. 7% drop yet he got so much credit for taking sas to 6. And harden was 12-29 last night for 41.4% but he's still getting **** from people for last night and the series. Compared to Curry's fg% drop in 13-14, hardens "only" dropped from 44.9%(season) to 41.5%(this series). So Curry's fg% drop was double what hardens was this yr. But like I said it's expected when u have to score and create for everyone. Also currys usg% was 27% that series. Harden this series was over 35%

Curry was 24 years old and his team was the 6th rank team. They weren't even expected to beat Denver that year let alone the much better Spurs.

Meanwhile Harden is 28 at his absolute peak of his prime, supposedly the MVP of the League and you are comparing him to Curry before he was even an all star. That's not a fair comparison.

At 24 in the playoffs Curry shot 44% from the field. When Harden was 24, in the playoffs he shot 37% from the field. Harden shot 46% from the field during that regular season. That's a massive drop off! Much worse than Curry.

Or how about my favourite Harden elimination performance was in 2015 when Harden scored 14 points on 2/11 from the field, that's 18% and 13 turnovers.


You still missing the point that being the leading scorer and playmaker is tiring. You can change it up all u want but point is the last time curry was lead scorer and only playmaker, his %s dropped alot and then magically after Kerr got there and did more off ball instead of iso Curry's %s didn't drop off as much anymore. That isn't a coincidence
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Post#3355 » by whocurrz » Thu May 31, 2018 4:48 am

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bakesale wrote:
Rednation91 wrote:40% is bad for curry. But he also had a g2 where he shot 7/20. And in g3 he was even worse at 5/17. Then in g5 he was 4/14. For that's series he shot 40% and for that season he shot 47%. 7% drop yet he got so much credit for taking sas to 6. And harden was 12-29 last night for 41.4% but he's still getting **** from people for last night and the series. Compared to Curry's fg% drop in 13-14, hardens "only" dropped from 44.9%(season) to 41.5%(this series). So Curry's fg% drop was double what hardens was this yr. But like I said it's expected when u have to score and create for everyone. Also currys usg% was 27% that series. Harden this series was over 35%

Curry was 24 years old and his team was the 6th rank team. They weren't even expected to beat Denver that year let alone the much better Spurs.

Meanwhile Harden is 28 at his absolute peak of his prime, supposedly the MVP of the League and you are comparing him to Curry before he was even an all star. That's not a fair comparison.

At 24 in the playoffs Curry shot 44% from the field. When Harden was 24, in the playoffs he shot 37% from the field. Harden shot 46% from the field during that regular season. That's a massive drop off! Much worse than Curry.

Or how about my favourite Harden elimination performance was in 2015 when Harden scored 14 points on 2/11 from the field, that's 18% and 13 turnovers.


You still missing the point that being the leading scorer and playmaker is tiring. You can change it up all u want but point is the last time curry was lead scorer and only playmaker, his %s dropped alot


It definitely is. Although they got CP3 to take off some burden Harden needs to switch up some game and Mike D needs to make some changes to prevent him having to go 1 v 1 so much. Yes they were effective all year but by game 100 it’s a lot to ask of a guy especially when defenses usually get tougher. A few system buckets from the est of the guys and Harden learning to move a bit better off ball would help a lot. One thing he should do is try to do the Curry, drive early, kick and spring back out to the 3 point line for a catch and shoot 3. His catch and shoot numbers were good, it doesn’t require elite off ball movement, having to shoot instantaneously off he curl which isn’t easily learned and could eat easy buckets. Way too many step back 3s which had been trending downward for him as the season wore on and his legs got more tired.
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Post#3356 » by Gregoire » Thu May 31, 2018 3:30 pm

People, who said that Paul injury affected the result: dont forget, than Curry wasnt healthy 100% in first 2 games and Klay wasnt 100% in 4 and 5 games.
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Post#3357 » by JellosJigglin » Thu May 31, 2018 3:43 pm

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man TMac is not looking to stay in the good graces of Rockets fans


He wasn't wrong though. He sounded like he was coming from a place as a Rockets fan.
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Post#3358 » by bakesale » Fri Jun 1, 2018 1:28 am

Rednation91 wrote:
bakesale wrote:
Rednation91 wrote:40% is bad for curry. But he also had a g2 where he shot 7/20. And in g3 he was even worse at 5/17. Then in g5 he was 4/14. For that's series he shot 40% and for that season he shot 47%. 7% drop yet he got so much credit for taking sas to 6. And harden was 12-29 last night for 41.4% but he's still getting **** from people for last night and the series. Compared to Curry's fg% drop in 13-14, hardens "only" dropped from 44.9%(season) to 41.5%(this series). So Curry's fg% drop was double what hardens was this yr. But like I said it's expected when u have to score and create for everyone. Also currys usg% was 27% that series. Harden this series was over 35%

Curry was 24 years old and his team was the 6th rank team. They weren't even expected to beat Denver that year let alone the much better Spurs.

Meanwhile Harden is 28 at his absolute peak of his prime, supposedly the MVP of the League and you are comparing him to Curry before he was even an all star. That's not a fair comparison.

At 24 in the playoffs Curry shot 44% from the field. When Harden was 24, in the playoffs he shot 37% from the field. Harden shot 46% from the field during that regular season. That's a massive drop off! Much worse than Curry.

Or how about my favourite Harden elimination performance was in 2015 when Harden scored 14 points on 2/11 from the field, that's 18% and 13 turnovers.


You still missing the point that being the leading scorer and playmaker is tiring. You can change it up all u want but point is the last time curry was lead scorer and only playmaker, his %s dropped alot and then magically after Kerr got there and did more off ball instead of iso Curry's %s didn't drop off as much anymore. That isn't a coincidence

In 2014 playoffs Curry's %s didn't drop as much as Harden's did in his prime.

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