Woj: Magic, Wiz talking - Arenas to ORL? (PHX involved? P10)

backasswards · Post #341 » by **backasswards** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:59 pm

BLKOUT wrote:Carter's assisted on 34% of his baskets, Richardson is assisted on 71% of his. This will be interesting.

Jameer, Arenas, and Hedo can facilitate for others.

Blame Rasho · Post #342 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:59 pm

HootieRules wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:
droponov wrote:
So what? They weren't at the start of the season either. I'm not saying they shouldn't trade Nash, I'm saying I don't see how this makes a Nash trade more probable.

The point is that Suns aren't really interesting in winning but the bottom line. I am sure if there is a good offer for him and that the Suns aren't a playoff team by the TD they would be more inclined to trade him for esp if they get a good prospect and picks.

We've been among the league leaders in salaries since Sarver got here. We don't save any money in this trade. There's a difference between being cheap and incompetent. You have no idea what you are talking about.

The suns have given picks away with regularity when they were a contender and let players go after WCF runs.

You got 3 million from the Magic...if you want to overlook that. They also got a big expiring contract back.

I happen to think that the Suns brass are both cheap and incompetent, but hey... I could be wrong like you said.

HootieRules · Post #343 » by **HootieRules** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:00 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:
HootieRules wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:The point is that Suns aren't really interesting in winning but the bottom line. I am sure if there is a good offer for him and that the Suns aren't a playoff team by the TD they would be more inclined to trade him for esp if they get a good prospect and picks.

We've been among the league leaders in salaries since Sarver got here. We don't save any money in this trade. There's a difference between being cheap and incompetent. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Yeah we did. We cleared ourselves of Hedo's contract that still has 3 more years on it. VC is an expiring. We can make a splash in FA this offseason plus we have 2 first round picks now.

Gortat + Pietrus make more than Hedo. JRich was expiring too. How do we save money again?

osamu · Post #344 » by **osamu** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:01 pm

I don't understand arenas coming over. Hedo can resort to his old style of play....makes sense but I think reshard poses more mistmatch problems over arenas.

Optms · Post #345 » by **Optms** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:01 pm

afacian wrote:
Optms wrote:If this gets done, great improvement for Orlando, the J-Rich-Arenas inside out game with Dwight will be a lethal combo.

I agree with this. For some reason people concentrate on Hedo-Carter part of the trade but Richardson is the best player in the deal and I think a good fit for the Magic.

yeah, and I watched Arenas not too long ago and he can still flat ball and attack the rim. This could potentially rejuvenate his career somewhat, a change of scenery would do him a lot of good.

Den Masters · Post #346 » by **Den Masters** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:02 pm

HootieRules wrote:Gortat + Pietrus make more than Hedo. JRich was expiring too. How do we save money again?

yeah most people in this thread have forgotten that JRich is an expiring contract :lol:

Chosen01 · Post #347 » by **Chosen01** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:02 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
SweetTouch wrote:I'm hearing the same things I heard from magic fans when they traded for Carter and let Hedo go!

"Carter > Hedo", except now its "Jason Richardson > Carter".

brb standing at the 3 point line

The thing is, J-Rich is more of a chucker than Vince. He's accurate, sure, but he doesn't move the ball at all (1.4 assists), and a 1/3 of his shot attempts are 3's. I thought Orlando had enough 3-point shooting.

At this point, they'd better hope Arenas gets back to attacking the basket, because that's their only hope of this working out.

Arenas has been shafted and doesn't get any call this year, hes more of a chucker this year. This would be excellent if this was 07/08 Arenas.

RoyceDa59 · Post #348 » by **RoyceDa59** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:02 pm

Confirmed: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... alks121810

Magic send Carter, Pietrus, Gortat and 3 million to Phoenix for Turk and Richardson.

Magic send Lewis to Washington for Arenas.

PG Arenas
SG Richardson
SF Turkoglu
PF Bass
Cc Howard

Scary team.

Post #349 » by **blkout** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:03 pm

At least Orlando didn't include a pick.

Edit: In the article it does, that's not the full trade. The pick and Earl Clark are involved.

SweetTouch · Post #350 » by **SweetTouch** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:03 pm

Howard will get 2 quick fouls under 3 minutes

HootieRules · Post #351 » by **HootieRules** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:04 pm

Den Masters wrote:the real question is can the phoenix medical staff make a miracle and make vince carter injury free?

Or give him a heart?

osamu · Post #352 » by **osamu** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:04 pm

alexcuse wrote:If Magic has a great record after the trade, Dwight Howard has to be the industable MVP this year having great winning records with 2 completely different supporting casts.

no

now and 4 life · Post #353 » by **now and 4 life** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:04 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Confirmed: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... alks121810

Magic send Carter, Pietrus, Gortat and 3 million to Phoenix for Turk and Richardson.

Magic send Lewis to Washington for Arenas.

PG Arenas
SG Richardson
SF Turkoglu
PF Bass
Cc Howard

Scary team.

Scary contracts

Lamak · Post #354 » by **Lamak** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:04 pm

That is gonna be a fun team to watch.

AIfan3 · Post #355 » by **AIfan3** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:04 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Confirmed: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... alks121810

Magic send Carter, Pietrus, Gortat and 3 million to Phoenix for Turk and Richardson.

Magic send Lewis to Washington for Arenas.

PG Arenas
SG Richardson
SF Turkoglu
PF Bass
Cc Howard

Scary team.

It's basically the same team.. A bunch of 3 point chuckers with 0 playmakers.. Only way Orlando gets better is if Arenas rejuvenates his career under Otis.

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #356 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:04 pm

HootieRules wrote:
Den Masters wrote:the real question is can the phoenix medical staff make a miracle and make vince carter injury free?

Or give him a heart?

Day in the Life · Post #357 » by **Day in the Life** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:04 pm

Why does Phoenix do this trade?

Post #358 » by **darth_federer** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:04 pm

HootieRules wrote:
Den Masters wrote:the real question is can the phoenix medical staff make a miracle and make vince carter injury free?

Or give him a heart?

KopLegend · Post #359 » by **KopLegend** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:05 pm

Day in the Life wrote:Why does Phoenix do this trade?

simple. get rid of Hedo. Get an extra big.

Optms · Post #360 » by **Optms** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:05 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:Confirmed: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... alks121810

Magic send Carter, Pietrus, Gortat and 3 million to Phoenix for Turk and Richardson.

Magic send Lewis to Washington for Arenas.

PG Arenas
SG Richardson
SF Turkoglu
PF Bass
Cc Howard

Scary team.

This line up will put so much pressure on offense for the opposition. Makes life a lot easier for Howard. We'll see how it works out though. Looking good, Orlando.