Dwight Howard trade rumor thread (Talks on hold? P. 90)

Forbes · Post #341 » by **Forbes** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:56 am

The Magic are screwed there's no good deals out there for them. At least take the risk and get bynum. Those picks are worthless

JAY DASH · Post #342 » by **JAY DASH** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:57 am

An Unbiased Fan wrote:JRich is exactly what LA needs off the bench. An athletic wing, who can shoot the 3.

at "athletic"

kblo247 · Post #343 » by **kblo247** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:57 am

NekiEcko wrote:But I dont know how you can sell that to the Orlando fans? They missed out on Byunm and lose Howard as well and getting nothing back but picks that may not pan out. *Shake head* Oh well, atleast we know that this mess will be over with.

Clear out their cap and be a free agency player with this picks next year. Heck even having the expiring of Martin is another chip they can use. They would be selling the fans on we can revive this whole team this summer

rockynpolo · Post #344 » by **rockynpolo** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:58 am

kblo247 wrote:McRoberts is an expiring. That said if LA isn't signing Hill back they could keep him and hope he plays like he did in Indy with Nash which isn't far fetched as he isn't hurt this year like he spent all the way to February with a toe injury last year

Its gonna suck that the lakers won't get to see McLoberts get those alleyoops with nash.

NekiEcko · Post #345 » by **NekiEcko** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:58 am

Forbes wrote:The Magic are screwed there's no good deals out there for them. At least take the risk and get bynum. Those picks are worthless

Or go for Horford or something like that, they can build around him and he has very good value. But I keep my comments to myself

Sharcm1 · Post #346 » by **Sharcm1** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:58 am

Why would the rockets helps the lakers get Howard. This is what's wrong with the NBA. Not the collective bargaining agreement. Stupid teams like Houston helping out the powerhouse teams. Everyone was up in arms about the nets getting Howard and becoming a super team but no one says crap about him going to la.

Rich keep getting richer because of teams like the rockets. If this trade happens and Howard is a laker then no matter what the rockets get or do they will not win a championship against Howard, Kobe, nash and gasol. Plain. And simple. You would think they wanted him in the east.

TheXFactor · Post #347 » by **TheXFactor** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:59 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Why would the rockets helps the lakers get Howard. This is what's wrong with the NBA. Not the collective bargaining agreement. Stupid teams like Houston helping out the powerhouse teams. Everyone was up in arms about the nets getting Howard and becoming a super team but no one says crap about him going to la.

Rich keep getting richer because of teams like the rockets. If this trade happens and Howard is a laker then no matter what the rockets get or do they will not win a championship against Howard, Kobe, nash and gasol. Plain. And simple. You would think they wanted him in the east.

Rockets would get Bynum that's why

An Unbiased Fan · Post #348 » by **An Unbiased Fan** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 12:59 am

rockynpolo wrote:I'm no rocket psychologist but when the nets finish 4-6 seed and gets bounced in the first round of the playoffs while he and the lakers get to the finals (at the very least to WCF). Why the **** would he even think about going to Brooklyn anymore?

Nets won't even make the playoffs. I don't think JJ adds enough wins.

driver · Post #349 » by **driver** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:00 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Why would the rockets helps the lakers get Howard. This is what's wrong with the NBA. Not the collective bargaining agreement. Stupid teams like Houston helping out the powerhouse teams. Everyone was up in arms about the nets getting Howard and becoming a super team but no one says crap about him going to la.

Rich keep getting richer because of teams like the rockets. If this trade happens and Howard is a laker then no matter what the rockets get or do they will not win a championship against Howard, Kobe, nash and gasol. Plain. And simple. You would think they wanted him in the east.

Because they would get Bynum.
It's literally a lil kid getting to choose between Pepsi or Coke. Can't really go wrong here.

fart · Post #350 » by **fart** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:01 am

When will this nonsense end? Make a damn move Orlando!

Daonly · Post #351 » by **Daonly** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:01 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Why would the rockets helps the lakers get Howard. This is what's wrong with the NBA. Not the collective bargaining agreement. Stupid teams like Houston helping out the powerhouse teams. Everyone was up in arms about the nets getting Howard and becoming a super team but no one says crap about him going to la.

Rich keep getting richer because of teams like the rockets. If this trade happens and Howard is a laker then no matter what the rockets get or do they will not win a championship against Howard, Kobe, nash and gasol. Plain. And simple. You would think they wanted him in the east.

Its all the Rockets Fault! :lol:

But it was cool for the Cavs to help the Nets!!

Jordan45822 · Post #352 » by **Jordan45822** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:01 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Why would the rockets helps the lakers get Howard. This is what's wrong with the NBA. Not the collective bargaining agreement. Stupid teams like Houston helping out the powerhouse teams. Everyone was up in arms about the nets getting Howard and becoming a super team but no one says crap about him going to la.

Rich keep getting richer because of teams like the rockets. If this trade happens and Howard is a laker then no matter what the rockets get or do they will not win a championship against Howard, Kobe, nash and gasol. Plain. And simple. You would think they wanted him in the east.

they helped Lakers get Paul (Stern stepped in to veto it)

SCourGe OF GoD · Post #353 » by **SCourGe OF GoD** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:01 am

Sharcm1 wrote:Why would the rockets helps the lakers get Howard. This is what's wrong with the NBA. Not the collective bargaining agreement. Stupid teams like Houston helping out the powerhouse teams. Everyone was up in arms about the nets getting Howard and becoming a super team but no one says crap about him going to la.

Rich keep getting richer because of teams like the rockets. If this trade happens and Howard is a laker then no matter what the rockets get or do they will not win a championship against Howard, Kobe, nash and gasol. Plain. And simple. You would think they wanted him in the east.

So Houston is stupid for turning 8 powerfowards and a decent pick into Bynum? Yeah..ok

NekiEcko · Post #354 » by **NekiEcko** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:01 am

But what about the Magic, they get junk and picks. Plus Lakers didnt even use one pick to give the Magic.

JAY DASH · Post #355 » by **JAY DASH** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:01 am

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:
TayP wrote:This is how I see the trade

Houston trades Jeremy Lamb/Terrence Jones/Toronto 1st/Dallas 1st/Kevin Martin/Shawn Livingston
Gets Andrew Bynum/Steve Blake

Lakers trade Andrew Bynum/2016 or 2017 1st/Steve Blake
Gets Dwight Howard Jason Richardson

Magic trade Dwight Howard/Jason Richardson
Gets Jeremy Lamb/Terrence Jones/Toronto 1st/Dallas 1st/Kevin Martin/Shawn Livingston

Magic probably would ask for White Parsons Morris or Patterson also but the Rockets would be giving up too much.

It doesn't make any sense for the Magic to pay Kevin Martin's contract when they'll just bench him to pay Lamb and other young guys. It doesn't make any sense for the Rockets to give up Martin when they're going to want to try and make the playoffs next year with Bynum. They can just rescind Dragic instead.

The Lakers would likely rather insist on Hedo than JRich as Hedo can help them more now and they don't have to take on 2014-15 salary. The Lakers should give up another 1st and the rockets should give up 1 fewer 1st.

Orlando would also probably not want Shaun Livingston's salary as it's not necessary to facilitate the trade if Houston rescinds Dragic.

Martin's an expiring contract, which is why Orlando wants him. Acquiring him and dumping J. Rich and Duhon free's up cap space next offseason. And I doubt if we bench him...may move him by the trade deadline but he'll be on display if we trade for him.

ClayDavis · Post #356 » by **ClayDavis** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:02 am

NekiEcko wrote:But what about the Magic, they get junk and picks. Plus Lakers didnt even use one pick to give the Magic.

they want to tank and get picks. One of those pick is a guaranteed lottery pick

Vader · Post #357 » by **Vader** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:04 am

Just an impression, it seems that Rockets always like to help Lakers and Knicks. Why is that?

Jajwanda · Post #358 » by **Jajwanda** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:05 am

I'm curious exactly what L.A. would exchange with regards to a J. Richardson. If you consider what he brings to the table and the Lakers' having other needs, it's not such a bad thing.

J. Richardson
Ebanks

That's a good wing duo, bringing in different skillets.

NekiEcko · Post #359 » by **NekiEcko** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:05 am

ClayDavis wrote:
NekiEcko wrote:But what about the Magic, they get junk and picks. Plus Lakers didnt even use one pick to give the Magic.

they want to tank and get picks. One of those pick is a guaranteed lottery pick

I dont think they want to tank if they resign JJ Redrick and Nelson. I think they want to complete and this draft is kinda weak as well. So other words, Highway Robbery.

Jordan45822 · Post #360 » by **Jordan45822** » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:06 am

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/ken-b ... sh-forward

some tidbits:

Although the Lakers' acquisition of Steve Nash has made the Lakers instantly more appealing to Howard, sources say the pairing of the 38-year-old point guard with 33-year-old Kobe Bryant hasn't sold Howard that joining the Lakers would provide more than a fleeting window to win a title. Howard has long preferred joining 28-year-old point guard Deron Williams with the Nets, who also have added All-Star Joe Johnson to the mix in a trade with Atlanta.

But another culprit in torpedoing the four-team arrangement may have been that the Magic decided they wanted to receive all the first-round picks exchanged in the deal, a league source said. By taking Cleveland out of the scenario, the Magic could receive four first-round picks from the Nets and one from the Clippers in exchange for Brooks, a promising shooting guard, going to L.A. That and other permutations of a deal that would send Howard to his desired landing spot in Brooklyn were among those still alive Tuesday night, multiple league sources said.

The NBA's moratorium on player movement concludes at 12:01 a.m. ET Wednesday, applying time pressure to the negotiations since several players involved would need to change teams via sign-and-trades. Despite the changing dynamics, the Magic are projecting confidence that Howard will be traded sooner rather than later. According to people in contact with the Magic front office, there is no appetite for the Howard saga to linger into next week and beyond.

The Clippers were standing by Tuesday waiting to hear if their services would be needed to complete the deal with Brooklyn, which would create another super team in a major NBA market by pairing Howard with Williams, Johnson and Gerald Wallace.