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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#341 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Jun 4, 2015 6:38 pm

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You really should take a break from posting. At the very least in this thread. The 'what is your team plans???!?!?' were getting pretty cringeworthy, but this is even further.


Maybe you should stop posting as well. If you don't like what I post then deal with it. I come with facts.


So far you have deflected off both some legitimate and some illegitimate questions about the Sixers by badgering posters about other teams' plans, and then called everyone who disagrees Neaderthall. I'm not sure how you reconcile that with 'coming with facts', it is the exact opposite and a type of post that promotes zero discussion and serves no one.

That said, I won't post to you more on it, and just ignore you.


Thank you very much. And yes people who talk about the Sixers' plan and saying how awful it is are Neanderthals. They can never provide and good data and just make up stuff.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#342 » by BullyKing » Thu Jun 4, 2015 6:41 pm

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I never said the Sixers plan wouldn't fail so no I will not stop doing this.


You seem like a really mature guy. I bet you're a blast at parties.


Whatever. You may not be able to comprehend reading because you said I said something I didn't say. Don't get mad at me that you misunderstood. I never said the Sixers' plan has no chance of failure. If I did then please show me where I said that. Otherwise just keep quiet.


It must be difficult for you to navigate life. I said that nonsense like what you wrote is what makes people think that Sixers fans believe the plan is foolproof. Why? Not because you said those words but because you cast all people who doubt the plan as "Neanderthals", "clueless" and "embarrassing." While that may be true of some posters on both sides, such a wholesale statement is read as anyone who "hates" on the Sixers is clueless. So if you're saying anyone that doubts the eventual success of the plan is clueless, people interpret that to be your guarantee of success. That is how the adult mind processes things. But I'll let you get to playing outside as I'm sure you're excited about the first week of summer vacation.
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the plan is to get as good as quickly as possible....I fully believe we could have been a borderline playoff team last year by adding young veterans....using or draft picks and cap space.....can I specifically tell you who? no.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#343 » by Mik317 » Thu Jun 4, 2015 6:45 pm

Can we all just stop insulting each other? It does nothing really. There are people on both sides that are in fact neanderthals in their way of thinking but not everyone who doesnt agree with our plan are that bad. Some of unreasonable and unfair in that they don't see that their whole "Sixers fans doesn't think it will fail" **** also applies to those who don't think it will work but no need to insult them.

I think it is best to just let things play out and we will see who has the last laugh.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#344 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Jun 4, 2015 6:48 pm

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You seem like a really mature guy. I bet you're a blast at parties.


Whatever. You may not be able to comprehend reading because you said I said something I didn't say. Don't get mad at me that you misunderstood. I never said the Sixers' plan has no chance of failure. If I did then please show me where I said that. Otherwise just keep quiet.


It must be difficult for you to navigate life. I said that nonsense like what you wrote is what makes people think that Sixers fans believe the plan is foolproof. Why? Not because you said those words but because you cast all people who doubt the plan as "Neanderthals", "clueless" and "embarrassing." While that may be true of some posters on both sides, such a wholesale statement is read as anyone who "hates" on the Sixers is clueless. So if you're saying anyone that doubts the eventual success of the plan is clueless, people interpret that to be your guarantee of success. That is how the adult mind processes things. But I'll let you get to playing outside as I'm sure you're excited about the first week of summer vacation.


Stop making stuff up. If anyone reads what I say and comes away thinking I am saying the plan can not fail then they can't read plain and simple. I don't care what anyone thinks of me. If people can't accept the truth then that's their problem. And I say again I never said the plan can't fail. The people who say the process is disgraceful and will have no chance of success are short sighted.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#345 » by wickedwrister » Thu Jun 4, 2015 6:51 pm

I hate it when families fight amongst themselves. Can't we all just go back to hating on Doug Collins?
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#346 » by Snotbubbles » Thu Jun 4, 2015 7:12 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:Let's say that it's true that the Sixers hit on every draft pick, the problem will come with affording them. One of the problems that comes with great success at the top of the draft, you have to pay everyone that second contract and we can see what happens when you don't (OKC). SO yeah, maybe Embidd/Noel/Saric/This guy this year/Some guy next year are all really good but that window isn't open for a decade, it's probably smaller and then you have the problem of having to make the right decision. And then get lucky.

New Orleans, SOLELY because they have Davis, is more likely to be a dynasty because dynasties in almost all cases have a top 3 (at worst) player on their team and Philly, even if guys max out, probably doesn't have that.


OKC could have kept Harden, they chose not to.

The Sixers don't really need to hit on one guy, Houston didn't draft their superstar, but what Houston did have were the assets to do a sign and trade with a team who didn't/wouldn't go in the luxury tax area. If the Sixers hit on every draft, they would most certainly be a dynasty. Deciding which superstar to keep should they all reach their potential would be such an awful problem to have.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#347 » by SkyHookFTW » Thu Jun 4, 2015 7:13 pm

It's amazing how 76er threads have a life of their own. Has there ever been a team that has such a poor record over a two-year period that is talked about as much? I admit that Hinkie's plan has caught and held my attention. If all of the "what if's" come up aces for the 76ers, it will be one nasty team to deal with for years.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#348 » by DanTown8587 » Thu Jun 4, 2015 7:19 pm

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DanTown8587 wrote:Let's say that it's true that the Sixers hit on every draft pick, the problem will come with affording them. One of the problems that comes with great success at the top of the draft, you have to pay everyone that second contract and we can see what happens when you don't (OKC). SO yeah, maybe Embidd/Noel/Saric/This guy this year/Some guy next year are all really good but that window isn't open for a decade, it's probably smaller and then you have the problem of having to make the right decision. And then get lucky.

New Orleans, SOLELY because they have Davis, is more likely to be a dynasty because dynasties in almost all cases have a top 3 (at worst) player on their team and Philly, even if guys max out, probably doesn't have that.


OKC could have kept Harden, they chose not to.

The Sixers don't really need to hit on one guy, Houston didn't draft their superstar, but what Houston did have were the assets to do a sign and trade with a team who didn't/wouldn't go in the luxury tax area. If the Sixers hit on every draft, they would most certainly be a dynasty. Deciding which superstar to keep should they all reach their potential would be such an awful problem to have.


One, the point about Harden is that it becomes hard for teams to justify giving out four or five max contracts so there becomes an issue when you say they're going to hit on all these contracts.

Two, Houston has won what, two playoff series in three years with Harden? Now they're a dynasty?

Three, name me a team that played in multiple conference finals (which is the baseline of a dynasty or any top team) that wasn't built around a top 3 player? The only one was Detroit and they did it against a heavily diluted NBA due to the HS rule and the fact that the best players in the league (KG, Duncan, Nash, Kobe, Shaq) spent the majority of that time in the West and once the East built themselves up with top 5 players (LeBron, Wade) all of the sudden, the Pistons stop winning.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#349 » by 12footrim » Thu Jun 4, 2015 7:26 pm

In 10 years? Most of their players will be in their early 30's and washed at that point or on the decline.

I'll give them a chance at making the playoffs in about 3 or 4 years even as weak as the east looks long term, and then guess what, they get to pay all these players or blow it up again when they decide they aren't taking them very far and start over. I'll give them a chance at a few playoffs and maybe a couple second rounds exits in the next decade.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#350 » by rasta_marley » Thu Jun 4, 2015 7:49 pm

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:The Timberwolves had Beasley (#2 pick), DWill (#2 pick), Love (#5), Rubio (#5), Flynn (#5), and Wesley Johnson (#4). That's 6 top 6 picks from 2008-2011.

That trumps the 76ers Noel (#6), Embiid (#3) and Russell? (#3), which is only 3 top 6 picks over 3 years.

Minnesota had much more dynasty potential on paper, didn't they?


Well except that the wolves had that Kahn guy who was making really bad picks such as that Flynn pick I mean.... come on. So far the 76ers seem to be being smart with their picks and are trying to actually take the guys that could be worth being picked that high.... granted Embiid could be a bust if injuries occur but man he can move.

My point is that if the wolves had had someone more competent in charge who knows what could have been?
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#351 » by joyeuxnoel » Thu Jun 4, 2015 8:05 pm

all we know is that the sixers 2 years ago were:

jrue
turner
thad
hawes
finished bynum

and no 2017 first round pick which was given up trading for bynum

that team would have been a treadmill team, fighting for the 8th seed in the weak east

2 years later they have:

noel
embiid
saric
#3 pick this year
laker 1st rounder which looks like a mid-lottery next year
miami's 1st rounder which could turn into a l unprotected lottery pick 2 years from now the way their roster is shaping out
okc pick which will be late 1st
got their 2017 first round pick back

decent role players like covington


this team could potentially hit it's stride the same time lebron is on the decline
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#352 » by MiltownHawkeye » Thu Jun 4, 2015 8:23 pm

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Unbreakable99 wrote:The people who hate on the Sixers' plan are Neanderthals. It's just that simple. They are clueless and are just embarrassing themselves with each post.


You really should take a break from posting. At the very least in this thread. The 'what is your team plans???!?!?' were getting pretty cringeworthy, but this is even further.


Maybe you should stop posting as well. If you don't like what I post then deal with it. I come with facts.

You have said literally nothing of substance in this thread. I'm pretty sure you're just a troll hellbent on making Sixers fans look bad.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#353 » by wickedwrister » Thu Jun 4, 2015 8:30 pm

joyeuxnoel wrote:all we know is that the sixers 2 years ago were:

jrue
turner
thad
hawes
finished bynum

and no 2017 first round pick which was given up trading for bynum

that team would have been a treadmill team, fighting for the 8th seed in the weak east

2 years later they have:

noel
embiid
saric
#3 pick this year
laker 1st rounder which looks like a mid-lottery next year
miami's 1st rounder which could turn into a l unprotected lottery pick 2 years from now the way their roster is shaping out
okc pick which will be late 1st
got their 2017 first round pick back

decent role players like covington


this team could potentially hit it's stride the same time lebron is on the decline



And they would have lost their 2014 or 2015 1st if they made the playoffs each of the last 2 years for the Artnett Moultrie trade......
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#354 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jun 4, 2015 8:34 pm

In ten years? What 8th grader does Hinkie have his eyes on?
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#355 » by ingvald » Thu Jun 4, 2015 8:38 pm

jbk1234 wrote:In ten years? What 8th grader does Hinkie have his eyes on?


lol- it seems pretty simple to me. If they manage to find a couple of top players with all these high draft picks, they'll be a legit contender. If all they find are solid pros or marginal All Stars, they're kinda screwed. But Hinkie's swinging for the fences, trying to find the next generational talent. I can't fault him for that. But GTFO with any dynasty talk.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#356 » by jbk1234 » Thu Jun 4, 2015 8:41 pm

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jbk1234 wrote:In ten years? What 8th grader does Hinkie have his eyes on?


lol- it seems pretty simple to me. If they manage to find a couple of top players with all these high draft picks, they'll be a legit contender. If all they find are solid pros or marginal All Stars, they're kinda screwed. But Hinkie's swinging for the fences, trying to find the next generational talent. I can't fault him for that. But GTFO with any dynasty talk.


I still don't understand why it would take 10 years. If the Sixers aren't really good four years from now, then Hinkie's strategy failed and he's probably gone.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#357 » by ingvald » Thu Jun 4, 2015 8:47 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
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jbk1234 wrote:In ten years? What 8th grader does Hinkie have his eyes on?


lol- it seems pretty simple to me. If they manage to find a couple of top players with all these high draft picks, they'll be a legit contender. If all they find are solid pros or marginal All Stars, they're kinda screwed. But Hinkie's swinging for the fences, trying to find the next generational talent. I can't fault him for that. But GTFO with any dynasty talk.


I still don't understand why it would take 10 years. If the Sixers aren't really good four years from now, then Hinkie's strategy failed and he's probably gone.


Its a stupid premise for the article and thread. And I agree that if Hinkie keeps stockpiling high picks for much longer, he should get canned. At some point, he's got to hit on the picks or trade assets and construct a roster with expectations of some kind.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#358 » by Prez » Thu Jun 4, 2015 8:53 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:The people who hate on the Sixers' plan are Neanderthals. It's just that simple. They are clueless and are just embarrassing themselves with each post.

Lmao. I really feel bad for Sixer fans for having to defend themselves with posters like you ruining the rep of the fanbase.
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#359 » by elBJ » Thu Jun 4, 2015 9:07 pm

The 76ers didn't even had a NBA Roster which deserves this name for the last 2-3 years and you discuss a Dynasty????
They're lucky if they contend just one season out of the 10!

There are 29 Teams in the NBA that got a chance as good as or better than the 76ers.

Take a look at the Warriors and their emergence as contenders. If they would've been run like the 76ers, Curry would already be traded for draftpicks and the players drafted with that picks would be traded for new draftpicks.

I say them becoming the new (old)Clippers is highly more probable, than them becoming the new (old)Lakers (funny how the LA teams switched fortunes :lol: )
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Re: 76ers will become dynasty in 10 years 

Post#360 » by Unbreakable99 » Thu Jun 4, 2015 9:20 pm

MiltownHawkeye wrote:
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HartfordWhalers wrote:
You really should take a break from posting. At the very least in this thread. The 'what is your team plans???!?!?' were getting pretty cringeworthy, but this is even further.


Maybe you should stop posting as well. If you don't like what I post then deal with it. I come with facts.

You have said literally nothing of substance in this thread. I'm pretty sure you're just a troll hellbent on making Sixers fans look bad.


You have contributed less than nothing. Keep hating.

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