Spurs open to trading Kawhi to Lakers

[Jimmy Recard]

Lakers will not gut the team just to get Lebron. If Stat-King is unwilling to sign with the Lakers because Kawhi and PG13 are not signed...good riddance Lebron. It is not a given you can bring titles to LA....your window is closing a few years....Lakers ain't going to start from the bottom again when you retire.

Go back to Cleveland ....

Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma or Lebron James. What a difficult choice

You're acting like those three are the second coming of Westbrook/Durant/Harden.

Ingram and Kuzma will be as great if not better than Westbrook. Why gut the team for Lebron....in a few years, Lakers will start rebuilding from the bottom again.

[Spens1]

Just don't take my boy Ingram away please San Antonio. Take Lonzo, hell take Kyle Kuzma (i'll be cut) but please not Ingram, he's just about to come good (and by good, i mean around 2 seasons away from superstardom, no i'm not kidding).

[ISayshowmee]

Lonzo/Ingram/Kuzma or Lebron James. What a difficult choice

You're acting like those three are the second coming of Westbrook/Durant/Harden.

Ingram and Kuzma will be as great if not better than Westbrook. Why gut the team for Lebron....in a few years, Lakers will start rebuilding from the bottom again.

Fake fans.....Had no idea how Westbrook played on his first few years....they thought he was already great after a year or 2 in the league. Now they are comparing Lakers' young players to today's Westbrook. Hahahaha.....

[Kolkmania]

If the trade happens, how many weeks before Ingram + Kuzma will be called "underrated" here?

Well certainly possible if the perception changes from "Ingram and Kuzma will be better than Westbrook" to "Ah he sucks anyway". Under or overrating players is based on the consensus value of a player.

[evilpimp972]

If the trade happens, how many weeks before Ingram + Kuzma will be called "underrated" here?

Well certainly possible if the perception changes from "Ingram and Kuzma will be better than Westbrook" to "Ah he sucks anyway". Under or overrating players is based on the consensus value of a player.

Nah I'm just talking because I've seen this with Russell
Larry Nance too lol

[BVB24]

I just don’t see the Spurs dealing Kawhi to the Lakers, thus also netting them Lebron and creating the next Superteam. They’d regret it for years watching the Lakers make it the WCF and/or Finals the next 4 years while they get bounced in the 2nd round, knowing they created that monster. Pop couldn’t handle it.

It would have to be a deal that would blow RC out of the water just for them to seriously consider it imo. Something like Ingram + Kuzma + Hart+ Randle (in a S&T) + a draft pick. And I don’t see Magic offering that so it’s not going to happen imo. He’ll wind up on BOS or PHI, whichever of the 2 offers the better package. My money is on Philadelphia, since Ainge is such a stingy MFer.

[VanWest82]

I think the deal winds up being a S&T for Randle at something like 4/52 + Ingram + FRP. I'm sure Spurs are holding out for two FRP and they should because they're giving up a top 5 player, but that's the type of deal that makes sense.

[Kolkmania]

If the trade happens, how many weeks before Ingram + Kuzma will be called "underrated" here?

Well certainly possible if the perception changes from "Ingram and Kuzma will be better than Westbrook" to "Ah he sucks anyway". Under or overrating players is based on the consensus value of a player.

Nah I'm just talking because I've seen this with Russell
Larry Nance too lol

D'Angelo Russell is a great example to be honest, can't tell you how many Lakers fans put him on a pedestal, expecting him to be the natural successor of Kobe, etc. The second he was traded to the Nets he was just a meh prospect, well worth giving up for in order to create cap space.

Based on the general Lakers view (not all fans obviously) he was massively overrated, however I think nowadays he's a tat underrated because there's upside if he's used as a SG instead of PG imo.

[BVB24]

The Lakers 1st Round picks are all going to be between picks 26-30 in the next 4 years most likely. That’s not appealing at all. Hopefully Spurs are smarter than that.

[hookshot199]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250383/Spurs-Open-To-Trading-Kawhi-Leonard-To-Lakers

Spurs finally came to their senses.

They call them godfather offers for a reason. But if LA tries to low-ball them there won't be a deal. Sixers will jump in and make a move.

Lakers have to realize, if Sixers get Kawhi before they ink Lebron they could lose him too.

Philly shouldn't do anything. We can trade for Kawhi any time up through the trade deadline and, if we sign one-year deals for free agents in the off season, will have $32 mil in cap space next July when Kawhi becomes a free agent. We should stay out of this auction; I'm not sure we will.

If we stay out and, for whatever reason Popovich doesn't jump when LeBron says "jump", LeBron will have to make a decision between Cleveland (at best a 4th seed even with LeBron), LA (at best a 5th or 6th seed even with LeBron, 3rd or 4th seed with Paul George and LeBron), or the Sixers (1st or 2nd seed with LeBron and the current roster).

We also shouldn't move NOW because Kawhi hasn't met ownership and expressed a desire to play in Philly, Kawhi hasn't gone through a complete physical, the Sixers won't know whether Fultz has recovered from medical/physical problems until closer to the trade deadline, whether Zhaire Smith can become a defensive stopper right away, and whether Simmons and Embiid both up their game to the next level, in the case of Simmons to shoot a mid-range jumpshot. All of that can be determined by the February trade deadline.

I tend to think this "noise" about LA having to sign Kawhi is a sleight of hand while LeBron is focused on Paul George. The fact that we hear nothing about him raises red flags.

[Spens1]

I still say stay the course, tell Lebron and George come here. Ingram, Deng, Kuzma, Ball and Leonard are all on the same salary and the deal is available to trade deadline, let the Spurs sweat a bit.

Like i said, in an ideal world for us, we really go in and say Randle S&T + Hart for Leonard and ditch Deng for a future first or future seconds (anything up to two firsts i'd say).

[-Spyda-]

Kawhi will end up in the Lakers

[hookshot199]

Spurs are not in a desirable position, however they don't have the time pressure the Lakers have in order to get a deal done before FA decision of James. A Covington + Saric + Smith + MIA '21 pick + Bayless (or something similar) from the Sixers will still be on the table during the summer.

I honestly don't get the fascination with Kuzma tbh, don't think that the Spurs value him that high. He's a defensive liability and with Kuzma's track record at Utah in combination with poor FT% there's a possibility the shooting is not for real. If that's the case I'm not sure he'll ever be a starter.

Ingram's stats are woeful thus far, but I get the fascination with him.

How do you know that has been offered? And why would we make that deal UNTIL Brown and Josh Harris down and get a commitment from him? The Sixers don't have to move until February, the trade deadline. And then if nothing happens, we have $32 mil in cap space next July.

[Spens1]

Kawhi will end up in the Lakers

and what cost though, i think that's most lakers fans worry. Pointless getting Leonard if we don't have a core anymore, it would just be these three and scrubs which puts us behind the warriors anyway.

[Cappy_Smurf]

Ingram and Kuzma will be as great if not better than Westbrook.

Lmao.

Sig worthy.

[The Moose]

Ingram and Kuzma will be as great if not better than Westbrook. Why gut the team for Lebron....in a few years, Lakers will start rebuilding from the bottom again.

Fake fans.....Had no idea how Westbrook played on his first few years....they thought he was already great after a year or 2 in the league. Now they are comparing Lakers' young players to today's Westbrook. Hahahaha.....

This is a joke right?
Westbrook was an allstar by 22, the same age as Kuzma was last season. Kuzma will be lucky to ever make an allstar game in his career.

[Kolkmania]

Spurs are not in a desirable position, however they don't have the time pressure the Lakers have in order to get a deal done before FA decision of James. A Covington + Saric + Smith + MIA '21 pick + Bayless (or something similar) from the Sixers will still be on the table during the summer.

I honestly don't get the fascination with Kuzma tbh, don't think that the Spurs value him that high. He's a defensive liability and with Kuzma's track record at Utah in combination with poor FT% there's a possibility the shooting is not for real. If that's the case I'm not sure he'll ever be a starter.

Ingram's stats are woeful thus far, but I get the fascination with him.

How do you know that has been offered? And why would we make that deal UNTIL Brown and Josh Harris down and get a commitment from him? The Sixers don't have to move until February, the trade deadline. And then if nothing happens, we have $32 mil in cap space next July.

If Kawhi commits to resigning and the medicals check out, I think that offer is reasonable with some minor tweaking. Obviously don't have information whether this offer is proposed, just making the point that the Sixers are not bound to this FA period unlike the Lakers.

[Side beard]

Fake fans.....Had no idea how Westbrook played on his first few years....they thought he was already great after a year or 2 in the league. Now they are comparing Lakers' young players to today's Westbrook. Hahahaha.....

This is a joke right?
Westbrook was an allstar by 22, the same age as Kuzma was last season. Kuzma will be lucky to ever make an allstar game in his career.

Don't disrespect a player just because someone made a statement. Kuz is a good player and has all the potential to be an all-star.

[The Moose]

Fake fans.....Had no idea how Westbrook played on his first few years....they thought he was already great after a year or 2 in the league. Now they are comparing Lakers' young players to today's Westbrook. Hahahaha.....

This is a joke right?
Westbrook was an allstar by 22, the same age as Kuzma was last season. Kuzma will be lucky to ever make an allstar game in his career.

Don't disrespect a player just because someone made a statement. Kuz is a good player and has all the potential to be an all-star.

He's a good player sure, not saying he isn't. I just don't think he will be one of the top 5 forwards in his conference though.
As I said, he is already 22 years old.

[-Spyda-]

Kawhi will end up in the Lakers

and what cost though, i think that's most lakers fans worry. Pointless getting Leonard if we don't have a core anymore, it would just be these three and scrubs which puts us behind the warriors anyway.

Lol.
Get Kawhi. No metter what it cost.
This is freaking Kawhi man.
Dont worry about the core