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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#341 » by djsunyc » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:02 am

expect a lot of load management for durant wherever he plays next year.

i think between this and kawhi - there's gonna be a pretty big shift in how orgs now deal with injuries.
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How Long For Recovery from Achilles Rupture 

Post#342 » by nzahir » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:03 am

How long does it take for a recovery to come back for KD if he ruptured it?

Kobe took 8 months but had knee injury after right?

Cousins took a year

Ewing took like 6 months somehow, but was done after

Wilkins 9 months

Is there a chance he comes back before or at the playoffs next year?
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#343 » by LipSkinMatter » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:03 am

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simonbampfield wrote:I think there needs to be an investigation, at minimum internally from the Warriors, to see what in the hell went on with the entire fiasco.
This isn't just about KD, it's also about Kevon Looney. He was told, along with the rest of us, that he is right to play as the injury couldn't get any worse. Then he comes out of the game and it's announced by the Warriors he has re-injured himself. So they said he can play injured as it won't get any worse, then say he has re-injured himself and is ruled out. So the injury did get worse, or he shouldn't have been out there in the first place.
The same can be said with KD, he shouldn't have been out there.
Durant was clearly not right (I can't believe I've seen some people say he looked 100%) even though he shot the ball well. Seeing him in the first I was hoping it was more about him getting confidence back in his leg, but it just wasn't right.
There were even reports the workout went terribly and I'm damn sure the doctors, both from the Warriors and outside sources (seeing as Myers said there were a number of doctors that diagnosed him), the front office, coaching staff. All of them would have been there, or should have been, for that workout.
That is when they should have just shut it down and said there isn't a chance you're right to play. Don't forget, when you make that decision for KD to come back and play, it's for 3 NBA finals games, not 1 or anything like that because you only bring him back if you're going to win the championship and they needed 3 wins.


Not to mention GSW fueled the intense come back chatter by clearly significantly DOWNPLAYING the injury the entire time referring to it as a calf injury, saying he could come back any time, blah blah. Super super shady.


You think Durant would let them lie about his injury in public? Or are you implying doctors lied to Durant? Or did you not think this through very far?
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#344 » by radeonboy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:03 am

I'm sure the truth will be leaked out any time now of GS negligence
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#345 » by Dr_Heat » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 am

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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#346 » by Dn4sty » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 am

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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#347 » by Guest202 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 am

The real snake is Myers. That sociopath was acting on that stage tonight. Only reason he is maybe emotional is because he worries he may be run out of the league for being a disgrace -- as he should be.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#348 » by -G- » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 am

Awful.
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Re: How Long For Recovery from Achilles Rupture 

Post#349 » by DusterBuster » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:04 am

I'd say next to no chance he's back for next years playoffs. Whatever team signs him this summer is not going to screw around after this debacle, they'll let him sit all year to fully recover and treat it as a red shirt year.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

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Re: Has Kevin Durant's Achilles injury changed your view on his legacy with GSW? 

Post#351 » by richboy » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:05 am

I've said this for years. The Warriors without KD were a paper champion. Klay even said it that they took advantage of some teams that had some injuries. They won 73 games and then almost lost to a OKC team that was decent. They should have lost that series in 5 games. Without KD in the playoffs there offense is just pass the ball until Klay or Steph can chuck up a shot. Against the elite that is not enough.

I've always said he is there best player. He can attack playoff defenses. If KD had stayed in OKC I think they would have become the team to beat. Especially if they did the Horford trade to go with adding Dipo and then Paul George. During that free agency meeting with GS they told KD that if he stayed in OKC maybe they would be able to win one more title. Kerr said that offseason they really needed an answer for switching defenses. He might be able to win one himself in OKC. That if he went to GS they could have a dynasty.

Without Durant GS is that really good team that won that title that weird season they faced every team in the playoffs without there point guard. However just was not good enough in the playoffs. Kind of like the way we talk about Houston now. With KD they have no weaknesses and they can beat anyone in any style.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#352 » by BallSacBounce » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:05 am

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Nah, lets be honest, KD is still getting the max from some team if he wants the money.

Nope. I doubt it. Guys in their 30s lose a lot after an achilles injury. If you are the Knicks and want to take that risk...you might not get what you are paying for even after waiting an entire year for him to come back.


Clippers and Knicks will max him no matter what imo.

Unless Durant will be A-OK...Knicks no way, Scott Perry in charge now. MSG is no longer the graveyard for over the hill players.

No team will max him with an Achilles tear, that's freaking ludicrous.
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Re: How Long For Recovery from Achilles Rupture 

Post#353 » by Yorkex » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:05 am

It's not a matter of how long.
What can he do when he comes back is the question.
They really gave him the Isaiah treatment.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#354 » by Dr_Heat » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:06 am

Knicks traded a lot to free space for Kevin and now this. Sucks for both
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Re: How Long For Recovery from Achilles Rupture 

Post#355 » by Dr Aki » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:06 am

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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#356 » by Dn4sty » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:06 am

Hopefully all 100 people who cover the Warriors for the Athletic will find out the truth
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Re: Should golden state medical staff be culpable for malpractice? 

Post#357 » by Phystic » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:06 am

I love how everyone is acting like they were inside the locker room and involved in KDs injury. Malpractice? For what? Because fans let their hate for an organization convince them that the franchise acted in bad faith?

Injuries happen. I sincerely doubt that a medical doctor flat out lied to KD about the injury. The most likely answer is everything looked good and KD decided to risk it for a ring. Championships are guaranteed and he went all in. It's unfortunate but it happens.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#358 » by The KnicksFix » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:06 am

Guest202 wrote:The real snake is Myers. That sociopath was acting on that stage tonight. Only reason he is maybe emotional is because he worries he may be run out of the league for being a disgrace -- as he should be.


word, from a knick to a laker fan, what he did was straight trash, he altered this dood's career, forever
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#359 » by ropjhk » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:07 am

I'm one who criticized KD in the past for his twitter behaviour but he always brought it on the court. Never once did he let those distractions bother his play. He is a true competitor as proven with the grit he showed tonight. I just hope this injury doesn't ruin the rest of his career.
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Re: Official: KD with Achilles Injury 

Post#360 » by Winsome Gerbil » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:07 am

mtcan wrote:
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mtcan wrote:Nope. I doubt it. Guys in their 30s lose a lot after an achilles injury. If you are the Knicks and want to take that risk...you might not get what you are paying for even after waiting an entire year for him to come back.


Clippers and Knicks will max him no matter what imo.

And that screams of desperation on the part of those organizations.

Boogie is a shell of his former self.

Elton Brand was perennial 20 and 10...and was nothing after that.

Rudy Gay was 18-20 ppg with really good athleticism...went from 18-20 ppg in 33 minutes pre-injury to 13 ppg in 26 minutes 2 years post-injury.

Wes Matthews...was never the same guy in Dallas as he was pre-injury in Portland. And yes...Dallas paid him not knowing what they would get after the injury


That's not actually all accurate though.

Boogie's per minute numbers were actually quite comparable to his pre-injury numbers.

Rudy Gay's per minute numbers were actually comparable to his pre-injury numbers, and that's with him aging too. he jsut accepted a smaller role for a top team where they did not need him to start.

Elton yes. But I have a feeling that was because he was an undersized guy that needed every little ounce of what he had in order to overachieve. In any case, he's the cautionary.

And Wes Matthews -- his thing? He absolutely rushed that recovery in obscene fashion in order to score a huge FA contract. Good decision for his financial future actually -- hey, he can go retire and cry into his hundred million in the vault in his mansion. But no way to try to rehab and recover from an injury. 6 months? Crazy.

Kobe was of course just old. He knew what he was facing when it happened.

NIque's amazing recovery remains of interest specifically because he has been advising Boogie throughout his recovery, and its a very small jump from Boogie to Durant, and his advice might be even more applicable to a fellow super scorer at his own position.

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